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| kanzure | 2009-05-15 04:08:13 fenn you can use ctypes if it makes you feel better | 01:00 |
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| kanzure | IT DOES | 01:00 |
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| kanzure | brlcad + ctypes + python works pretty well except for their weird macro system | 01:45 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/wdb_example.py | 01:45 |
| kanzure | instead of functions to allocate you a new thing they have macros that i can't figure out how to bind against | 01:45 |
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| poppingtonic | paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=359031&coll=portal&dl=ACM | 04:38 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1145%2F359024.359031 | 04:38 |
| poppingtonic | paperbot, http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/800179.810196 | 04:39 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Debunking%20the%20expensive%20procedure%20call%20myth%20or%2C%20procedure%20call%20implementations%20considered%20harmful%20or%2C%20LAMBDA%3A%20The%20Ultimate%20GOTO.pdf | 04:39 |
| poppingtonic | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/359024.359031 | 04:42 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Design%20of%20a%20LISP-based%20microprocessor.pdf | 04:42 |
| poppingtonic | oy gradstudentbot | 04:43 |
| gradstudentbot | It's contaminated. | 04:43 |
| poppingtonic | gradstudentbot: do you have a minute? | 04:44 |
| gradstudentbot | Which calculator do you need? I have a TI-83 and a TI-84. | 04:44 |
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| poppingtonic | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/234286.1057818 | 04:52 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20evolution%20of%20Lisp.pdf | 04:52 |
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| poppingtonic | paperbot: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2322516 | 05:15 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Evaluating%20Graduated%20Response.pdf | 05:15 |
| wallmani | what exactly does paperbot do? | 05:24 |
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| nalkri | Seems to collect references to diyhpl.us | 05:26 |
| wallmani | i see | 05:26 |
| nalkri | Which I assume stands for Do It Yourself Human PLus | 05:26 |
| nalkri | Why on earth it'd have a .us TLD is beyond me though | 05:27 |
| wallmani | i see | 05:27 |
| wallmani | me and a friend have a git repo were we put papers, then have git ignore one directory where we keep track of waht we read | 05:27 |
| poppingtonic | It downloads files from paywalled sites, uploads them to diyhpl.us, then posts a link to the file here. | 05:33 |
| nalkri | Ah, that's why it's not just an index then | 05:34 |
| nalkri | Thanks comrade | 05:34 |
| poppingtonic | nalkri: ^ | 05:34 |
| poppingtonic | np | 05:34 |
| nalkri | And now I shall rant on the immorality of paywalling academic papers! | 05:35 |
| poppingtonic | I think paperbot is quite an elaborate rant, in itself. :) | 05:38 |
| nalkri | Well, I'm not going to actually rant for that reason of course, and because I suspect it's obvious to most H+ types | 05:38 |
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| poppingt` | /nick poppingtonic | 05:45 |
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| nalkri | poppingt`: fewer spaces | 05:50 |
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| poppingtonic | weird... | 05:51 |
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| FourFire | Hello | 08:30 |
| FourFire | are there any current instances of Microbot technology (between 1 cubic millimeter and 1000 cubic micrometers in size) ? | 08:32 |
| nalkri | There are certainly machines on such scales | 08:40 |
| nalkri | Does it have to be motile and a machine to count? | 08:41 |
| FourFire | motile, and able to rip/manipulate matter to some degree | 08:41 |
| FourFire | I'm thinking precursors to "nanobots" just orders of magnitude bigger | 08:42 |
| nalkri | I don't think so, that would seem to suggest Vonn Neumann machines | 08:43 |
| nalkri | Which we don't even have on the macroscale(unless you include us) | 08:43 |
| kanzure | huh? | 08:45 |
| kanzure | nalkri: no idea what you're talking about | 08:45 |
| kanzure | FourFire: yes we have micron-scale machines | 08:45 |
| FourFire | can you hand me some keywords so I can learn about them? | 08:45 |
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| kanzure | brlcad + python + ctypes is working. now i just need to pretty up the wrapper. | 09:29 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/brlcad-python-ctypes-demo.zip | 09:32 |
| kanzure | also this means brlcad in nanoengineer | 09:35 |
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| archels | http://vimeo.com/74033442# | 10:26 |
| archels | ##hplusroadmap, get to work | 10:27 |
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| kanzure | justanotheruser: hi | 10:29 |
| justanotheruser | hi kanzure | 10:31 |
| justanotheruser | kanzure: I'm the guy from yesterday who was asking about NE1 | 10:31 |
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| kanzure | i see | 10:34 |
| kanzure | if you bug me some more i might remember to dig up the wiki | 10:34 |
| kanzure | and revive it | 10:34 |
| justanotheruser | Do you have a copy from before the spambots took over? | 10:39 |
| kanzure | both before and after | 10:41 |
| kanzure | it doesn't matter, i've cleaned up spammed mediawiki installs before | 10:42 |
| kanzure | it's really easy to detect spam changes | 10:42 |
| justanotheruser | kanzure: are you in college? Do you have a job in nanotechnology? | 10:45 |
| gradstudentbot | People have tried that, but it doesn't seem to work. | 10:45 |
| kanzure | nope not in college | 10:46 |
| kanzure | i do software contracting | 10:46 |
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| nmz787 | http://ascii.co.uk/art/dna | 14:06 |
| kanzure | .title | 14:07 |
| yoleaux | DNA - ASCII ART | 14:07 |
| nmz787 | `-:-. ,-;"`-:-. ,-;"`-:-. ,-;"`-:-. ,-;" | 14:07 |
| nmz787 | `=`,'=/ `=`,'=/ `=`,'=/ `=`,'=/ | 14:07 |
| nmz787 | y==/ y==/ y==/ y==/ | 14:07 |
| nmz787 | ,=,-<=`. ,=,-<=`. ,=,-<=`. ,=,-<=`. | 14:07 |
| nmz787 | ,-'-' `-=_,-'-' `-=_,-'-' `-=_,-'-' `-=_ | 14:07 |
| kanzure | inaccurate, where's the P? | 14:07 |
| nmz787 | P? | 14:07 |
| kanzure | don't we have some phosphates or something in there | 14:08 |
| justanotheruser | That's some really ugly ascii art | 14:08 |
| nmz787 | this is an hidden view model :P | 14:08 |
| kanzure | i see i see | 14:08 |
| justanotheruser | atleast my clients spacing makes it really ugly | 14:09 |
| kanzure | i see http://hastebin.com/guyixamaho.xml | 14:09 |
| nmz787 | (__T A__) | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | (__A T__) | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | \_G C_/ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | \_/ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | X | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | /_\ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | /_T A_\ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | (__A T__) | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | \_G C_/ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | \_/ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | X | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | /_\ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | /_G C_\ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | (__T A__) | 14:11 |
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| nmz787 | (__A T__) | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | \_C G_/ | 14:11 |
| n_benthamiana | o/ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | \_/ | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | X | 14:11 |
| nmz787 | Ned Lally | 14:11 |
| justanotheruser | hello n_benthamiana | 14:11 |
| justanotheruser | thanks for breaking that | 14:11 |
| n_benthamiana | hello there. sorry | 14:11 |
| n_benthamiana | just waving hello | 14:11 |
| justanotheruser | I was not being sarcastic, I'm glad it was broken | 14:12 |
| n_benthamiana | :) | 14:12 |
| n_benthamiana | know much about a nanodrop justanotheruser? i'm trying to switch the nd1000 we have from 1 computer to another. wondering if i have to re-calibrate or anything special after i hook it up to the new machine? | 14:13 |
| nmz787 | i took apart an nd1000 | 14:14 |
| nmz787 | nathanmccorkle.com/take_aparts/nanodrop | 14:14 |
| nmz787 | heh i think the counter at the bottom of that page hasn't worked in years | 14:15 |
| nmz787 | oh, no i guess it does | 14:15 |
| kanzure | was there any microcode on that nanodrop | 14:15 |
| kanzure | or was it all windows-side | 14:16 |
| kanzure | and if so, do you have that windows software | 14:16 |
| justanotheruser | Never heard of it n_benthamiana | 14:16 |
| n_benthamiana | ok thx | 14:17 |
| chris_99 | what's the min/max wavelength it can do? | 14:17 |
| n_benthamiana | T_T windows 8 is unsupported---won't install | 14:19 |
| justanotheruser | n_benthamiana: have you tried changing the compatibility mode? | 14:21 |
| n_benthamiana | yes. | 14:21 |
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| n_benthamiana | justanotheruser: i'm able to run the installer; however, it won't allow me to install because it says that the system does not meet the minimum requirements (windows 7, win xp, win 2000, win vista, win server 2003) | 14:28 |
| nmz787 | yes i have all the windows software | 14:31 |
| nmz787 | the firmware is likely no different than the other USB2000s | 14:31 |
| nmz787 | or 4000s | 14:31 |
| nmz787 | the windows side driver I think is what might be different | 14:31 |
| nmz787 | just so it appears as a nanodrop in device manager | 14:32 |
| n_benthamiana | Any advice on what to do? I'm about to take out this hdd and slap it into a win7 machine, install the program, and then put the hdd back into this machine and run the program in compatibility mode. | 14:32 |
| nmz787 | n_benthamiana: no recal needed, just blank as always | 14:33 |
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| n_benthamiana | Ok thank you nmz787. | 14:33 |
| nmz787 | unless you see some hidden settings file | 14:33 |
| nmz787 | n_benthamiana: i'm jsut assuming that, but I believe it to be accurate | 14:33 |
| n_benthamiana | if not, i'll just stick w/ the old machine | 14:34 |
| n_benthamiana | but i'll catch you later. gotta shutdown and take out the hdd. | 14:35 |
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| nmz787 | whoops | 14:35 |
| nmz787 | it looks like i have the installer | 14:35 |
| nmz787 | that might have helped them out | 14:36 |
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| kanzure | he will be back eventually | 14:45 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: is it normal for a git-svn bridge to change commit ids for old commits? i haven't updated brlcad.git in 6 months and they are different. | 15:56 |
| jrayhawk | Not unless the svn history got rewritten at some point. | 15:57 |
| jrayhawk | Or major changes were made to the git-svn setup. | 15:58 |
| kanzure | hmm. | 16:00 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: gnusha.org:/home/bryan/public_html/papers2/cad/brlcad/ is the git repo (yes i know it's in a stupid place, that's why i just found it again) | 16:00 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: the master branch is what i had, and origin/master is what they have now | 16:00 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: curious to see your opinion on this repo | 16:00 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, the SVN URL changed. | 16:04 |
| jrayhawk | which would qualify as a major change to the git-svn setup. | 16:05 |
| jrayhawk | So all the hashes are going to be different as a result of the commit messages. | 16:05 |
| kanzure | fooey | 16:06 |
| jrayhawk | That could've been avoided if the git-svn setup had included just the revision and not the repository URL in the commit message. | 16:06 |
| kanzure | is there a way to have a more stable git-svn bridge | 16:07 |
| kanzure | ah thanks | 16:07 |
| kanzure | why didn't i piny newrepo myself a thing for that? | 16:08 |
| jrayhawk | it's possible that you cloned that before i had newrepo --disable-ikiwiki working | 16:08 |
| kanzure | could we do our own git-svn bridge? i have commit access i think. | 16:10 |
| kanzure | heh the military gave me commit access what are they thinking | 16:10 |
| jrayhawk | Don't see a reason why not. | 16:11 |
| kanzure | i was always put-off by having to do manual fetches | 16:11 |
| jrayhawk | git-svn gateways have a habit of becoming defacto upstream over time. | 16:11 |
| kanzure | maybe i can put an entry into a cronjob for nightly fetches? | 16:11 |
| jrayhawk | Yeah, that'd be fine. | 16:11 |
| kanzure | hard to become defacto upstream when all the commit ids keep changing on me | 16:12 |
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| n_bentha | nmz787....what a pos that computer is. I couldn't get the hdd out becuase of the way the computer is configured, so I had to run cables from it to the win xp machine. Then the win xp machine wouldn't allow me to browse files on the hdd. | 17:21 |
| sbaugh | what exactly is this piny thing? a wiki on git? sems neat | 17:26 |
| kanzure | piny sets up projects with standard resources like git and ikiwkki and cgit | 17:27 |
| kanzure | oops i mean ikiwiki | 17:27 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/cgit has some piny git repos | 17:27 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/wiki is diyhpluswiki.git | 17:28 |
| kanzure | ssh newuser@diyhpl.us if you want to play around | 17:28 |
| gradstudentbot | Which calculator do you need? I have a TI-83 and a TI-84. | 17:28 |
| jrayhawk | Ikiwiki is a system for compiling markdown and various other text formats into webpages and interacting sanely with version control systems using hooks; it is a pain in the ass to get set up for shared environments. Piny is a management engine for ikiwiki and git. | 17:29 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: could i convince you to setup the brlcad git-svn mirror with the cronjob? | 17:30 |
| jrayhawk | ugh, that involves working out how to use git-svn again | 17:30 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: also would it have the same commit ids as http://brlcad.org/brlcad.git currently? | 17:30 |
| kanzure | yeah that's what stumped me too. i would have to look at an entire man page or something. | 17:30 |
| jrayhawk | isn't http://brlcad.org/brlcad.git the one with the unstable IDs to begin with | 17:31 |
| kanzure | "unstable" i dunno if it's actually unstable | 17:31 |
| kanzure | i assume that more people are using this current brlcad.git than before | 17:31 |
| kanzure | i have no idea. which one do you recommend? | 17:31 |
| jrayhawk | if someone else is running git-svn %95 percent correctly, i think it might be better to fix the %5 percent of their policy that has the potential for problems | 17:34 |
| jrayhawk | or, rather, ask them if they're willing to fix the %5 | 17:34 |
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| jrayhawk | redundant units | 17:34 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: can you /join #brlcad in case i need git backup? | 17:35 |
| jrayhawk | right-o | 17:35 |
| n_bentha | gradstudentbot, can u send me the ti-84 virtual calc? i only have the ti-83 | 17:35 |
| gradstudentbot | Dropped my sample. | 17:35 |
| kanzure | it would be funny if they intentionally sabotaged the git-svn bridge so that git wouldn't catch on more | 17:35 |
| jrayhawk | nah, this is an easy mistake to make | 17:36 |
| nmz787 | n_bentha: i have the installer for the nd100 software | 17:42 |
| nmz787 | nd1000 | 17:42 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: i'd like some of that | 17:43 |
| nmz787 | n_bentha: just found this http://www.peqlab.com/wcms/nanodrop/ | 17:43 |
| nmz787 | about 10X the size of the directory i have | 17:43 |
| nmz787 | but the software i have is V3.5.2 | 17:44 |
| nmz787 | and was running on XP | 17:44 |
| nmz787 | n_bentha: http://www.nanodrop.com/Support.aspx?Type=Software&Cat=NanoDrop%201000 | 17:45 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: let's just assume the new ones | 17:47 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: or, alternatively, whichever url structure you prefer the most | 17:48 |
| n_bentha | nmz787, but will it install on windows 8? | 17:48 |
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| Burninate | http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130909092338.htm | 18:07 |
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| kanzure | anyone know richard ralph? | 18:34 |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: you? | 18:46 |
| yashgaroth | who is he | 18:46 |
| yashgaroth | I know a richard rouse assuming the surname was misheard | 18:47 |
| kanzure | someone doing lab equipment work for jojack | 18:48 |
| kanzure | maybe doing reprap things | 18:48 |
| kanzure | sometimes i wonder if jojack is making up names | 18:48 |
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| yashgaroth | yeah it's rouse | 19:08 |
| yashgaroth | he is a 3d printing evangelist | 19:09 |
| yashgaroth | that's about it really | 19:09 |
| kanzure | oh :( | 19:10 |
| kanzure | i was informed otherwise | 19:10 |
| yashgaroth | um I think he does some sort of highthroughput equipment stuff, haven't really asked him | 19:10 |
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| gradstudentbot | These findings indicate that extensive genetic engineering of human hematopoiesis can be achieved with lentiviral vectors. | 19:12 |
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| yashgaroth | ah this is him http://www.htsresources.com/ but I dunno if he's still active with the lab, haven't seen him there since before the opening | 19:15 |
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| kanzure | ugh http://emotivinsight.com/upload/video/EmotivInsight3DBrainActivityVisualizer.mp4 | 19:48 |
| kanzure | maybe i should just delete their marketing materials | 19:48 |
| kanzure | also, they don't know how to do spam because they aren't wrapping their links with stalking sugar | 19:51 |
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| heath | did someone ask for stalking sugar? | 20:52 |
| heath | https://www.aclu.org/HouseDocuments | 20:54 |
| heath | ^not stalking sugar, just something interesting | 20:54 |
| heath | https://www.aclu.org/blog/technology-and-liberty-immigrants-rights-national-security/documents-shed-light-border-laptop | 20:55 |
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| anannie | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0966692304000651 | 22:29 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag4/10.1016/j.jtrangeo.2004.08.011.pdf | 22:29 |
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| justanotheruser | Anyone read any good books similar to soft machines? I'm looking for a book more in depth than engines of creation but slightly less technical than nanosystems. | 23:34 |
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| kanzure | nanosystems is the minimum technical content allowed in here, next step is KSRM | 23:43 |
| justanotheruser | Well I was looking for something nanotechnology related | 23:50 |
| kanzure | KSRM counts | 23:50 |
| kanzure | it just happens to also cover non-nanoscopic machines to. | 23:50 |
| kanzure | *too. | 23:50 |
| justanotheruser | nanosystems is good, but I don't want to read a technical book much as a book about how we will transition into nanotechnology | 23:51 |
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| kanzure | futurism is off topic :p | 23:52 |
| justanotheruser | KSRM has an average 2/5 review on Amazon | 23:53 |
| kanzure | haters gonna hate | 23:54 |
| justanotheruser | All of the text in this book, and all 400+ books from the same author are just cut/paste jobs from Wikipedia articles. | 23:54 |
| justanotheruser | You can get the same info for free from Wikipeadia. So why pay for it? | 23:54 |
| justanotheruser | Also, all of the info is thrown together, very unorganized. In fact, it is confusing. | 23:54 |
| kanzure | table of contents - http://www.molecularassembler.com/KSRM.htm | 23:54 |
| kanzure | you're looking at the wrong thing | 23:54 |
| justanotheruser | Have you read soft machines? | 23:55 |
| kanzure | no | 23:56 |
| kanzure | this doesn't look like something i would find useful http://www.amazon.com/Soft-Machines-Nanotechnology-Richard-Jones/dp/0199226628 | 23:56 |
| kanzure | here have some science http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/nanotech/ | 23:56 |
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