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| archels | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1460-9568.1994.tb00286.x/pdf | 06:54 |
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| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag2/10.1111/j.1460-9568.1994.tb00286.x.pdf | 06:55 |
| archels | paperbot: thx2u | 06:55 |
| nalkri | A gentleman is someone who thanks his robot :) | 06:56 |
| archels | haha | 06:57 |
| archels | hey, they're gonna have to live with us as much as we with them ;) | 06:57 |
| nalkri | Yeah, so we should make an effort to make it a friendly relationship | 06:57 |
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| kanzure | email describing the python/javascript bridge thing i did, https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/phantomjs/r6j5s4UN3BQ | 07:49 |
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| kanzure | huh "The GObject type system does things that you can't do in C++. For one thing, it allows creation of new classes at runtime, and does this in a way that is language-independent - you can define a new class in Python at runtime, then manipulate instances of that class within a function written in C, which need not even be aware that Python was ever involved." | 08:32 |
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| entelechios | kanzure thats pretty damn cool | 09:44 |
| entelechios | i've been perusing the possibilities of using a javascript/python stack | 09:44 |
| entelechios | nothing as leet as what you're pulling off tho haha just for webapps | 09:44 |
| entelechios | something more along the lines of this | 09:45 |
| entelechios | http://b.drwlrsn.com/post/44971679516/flask-todo-emberjs-pt1 | 09:45 |
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| kanzure | entelechios: pyjamas-desktop is a ui framework that uses webkit as the gui, check it out | 09:46 |
| entelechios | oh neat | 09:46 |
| entelechios | how well would that scale out tho heh | 09:46 |
| entelechios | i like the possibilities clientside MVC offers | 09:47 |
| entelechios | ah yeah totally different aims than what i'm interested in methinks, still cool though | 09:47 |
| entelechios | my works mostly in web/mobile | 09:48 |
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| kanzure | pyjamas-desktop is web/mobile compatible. it generates javascript that creates a ui that is equivalent to the desktop version. | 09:52 |
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| entelechios | i see that, i'm just question whether or not it's web/mobile optimal | 09:55 |
| kanzure | eh not very mobile optimized | 09:56 |
| kanzure | for mobile/web things i prefer cordova | 09:56 |
| entelechios | methinks i'm just question | 09:56 |
| entelechios | wow i'm talking weird toady | 09:57 |
| gradstudentbot | Do you have references for that? | 09:57 |
| entelechios | toady lol | 09:57 |
| entelechios | cordova looks neat | 09:57 |
| entelechios | i've used appcelerator titanium for a few projects | 09:57 |
| entelechios | which has worked out great | 09:57 |
| kanzure | cordova is phonegap | 09:57 |
| kanzure | or rather, was phonegap | 09:58 |
| entelechios | it started out pretty buggy that project but it's got its feet now | 09:58 |
| kanzure | at this point i wouldn't recommend appcelerator | 09:58 |
| kanzure | you should just write in javascript directly | 09:58 |
| entelechios | yeah it's been about a year since i've come back to it and one of my clients wants a reboot of his old app | 09:58 |
| entelechios | has appcelerator started to shit the bed yet? | 09:58 |
| kanzure | dunno, i haven't used it in forever | 10:00 |
| kanzure | i've had lots of performance problems with cordova/javascript, like clicks being delayed by 400ms because nobody in jquery mobile land knows how to write click event listeners | 10:00 |
| entelechios | i'd need good support for reaching in to thinks like contact list access | 10:00 |
| kanzure | in most cases it is far easier to just write vanilla java for an android app | 10:00 |
| kanzure | or objective c for ios stuff | 10:00 |
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| entelechios | hahaha yeah appcelerator never gave me issues like that | 10:00 |
| entelechios | we're writing a VOIP app | 10:00 |
| kanzure | i wouldn't want to try voip in javascript | 10:01 |
| entelechios | getting some chinese people or whoever wants to do it for decent price on a decent reputation | 10:01 |
| kanzure | unless they compile in webrtc things | 10:01 |
| entelechios | to do the obj-c/java modules | 10:01 |
| kanzure | "decent price" | 10:01 |
| kanzure | i managed a team of 10 in vietnam at one point. but i always ended up writing 40% of the code upfront and having them do the rest. | 10:01 |
| entelechios | yeah or just purchasing pre-existing code pretty much | 10:01 |
| entelechios | we won't pay for it until we know its not shit | 10:01 |
| kanzure | (they were doing mobile things) | 10:01 |
| entelechios | there's some offers on the table | 10:01 |
| entelechios | that webrtc stuff is pretty damn cool | 10:03 |
| entelechios | http://www.jssip.net/ | 10:03 |
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| entelechios | check that out, sounds like you may have seen it already somehow but | 10:03 |
| kanzure | scares me that it's in js. most mobile phones are going to have trouble with that. | 10:04 |
| entelechios | oh yeah of course | 10:04 |
| kanzure | i'm not even sure if vanilla webkit on android has webrtc features turned on | 10:04 |
| entelechios | i wouldn't dream of that working on my phone any time soon hahaha | 10:04 |
| kanzure | android 4.1 i'd be really surprised if it has webrtc stuff | 10:04 |
| ParahSailin | dang wheres pbot | 10:04 |
| entelechios | still, an audio/video client in js is an impressive feat | 10:04 |
| entelechios | roll your own omegle or whatever haha | 10:05 |
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| heath | kanzure: they update the browser independently of the OS now iirc | 10:09 |
| kanzure | i doubt it | 10:09 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: paperbot is back | 10:09 |
| * heath still wants basic things like fullscreen access in the mobile version of chrome | 10:10 | |
| entelechios | they added that a couple months ago yo | 10:12 |
| heath | is it common to still retain recognition for "grammar review" if it's been a couple of revisions since you last reviewed it? :| http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rtcweb-overview-08 | 10:13 |
| heath | grammatical*, w/e | 10:13 |
| heath | stupid question, ignore | 10:16 |
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| archels | "If you feel compelled to tart it up, you can call equation 3 Gibbs inequality and F(q, θ) the negative variational free energy." | 11:41 |
| archels | haha | 11:41 |
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| kanzure | http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/09/fatal-crypto-flaw-in-some-government-certified-smartcards-makes-forgery-a-snap/ | 11:48 |
| kanzure | http://smartfacts.cr.yp.to/smartfacts-20130916.pdf | 11:48 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://smartfacts.cr.yp.to/smartfacts-20130916.pdf | 11:48 |
| paperbot | TypeError: unicode() argument 2 must be string, not None (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 825, in text) | 11:49 |
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| kanzure | sigh | 12:21 |
| kanzure | maybe we should just kill paperbot until someone bothers to fix it | 12:21 |
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| entelechios | kanzure, so you leave paperbot links to papers like so? | 13:04 |
| kanzure | hm? | 13:04 |
| kanzure | it sucks up pdfs and puts them on a server for me | 13:04 |
| kanzure | so i might as well use it to store pdfs for me instead of manually uploading them myself | 13:05 |
| entelechios | ah cool | 13:05 |
| entelechios | yeah i've yet to really get into the guts of the sucka | 13:05 |
| kanzure | the guts are really unclean and i apologize | 13:05 |
| entelechios | guy who owns the box where i have the shell is doing some networking reconfig | 13:05 |
| kanzure | there's a v2 that is upcoming, written in javascript | 13:05 |
| kanzure | does streaming html parsing and streaming pdf parsing to remove nsa watermarks | 13:06 |
| entelechios | neat | 13:06 |
| entelechios | i wasn't aware of these watermarks really | 13:06 |
| kanzure | python version of the pdf scrubber is https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia | 13:06 |
| kanzure | check out pdfparanoia to see a few samples in the tests/ directory | 13:06 |
| kanzure | yes paperbot is stripping off the watermarks. which is why you don't see them. | 13:06 |
| entelechios | yea that's the one that had bugs in it when i tried adding it as a requirement for paperbot | 13:06 |
| kanzure | oh i see | 13:06 |
| kanzure | well post bug reports and let me know if i can help | 13:06 |
| entelechios | for sure when that box is back up i'll give you a couple pull reqs | 13:07 |
| entelechios | just a couple syntax errors that was stopping setup.py from runnin | 13:07 |
| kanzure | aw fuck | 13:07 |
| kanzure | that blows | 13:07 |
| kanzure | how did it work for me, then? | 13:08 |
| entelechios | heh they were really easy to fix. | 13:08 |
| entelechios | probably because w/e you got locally was fixed :) | 13:08 |
| entelechios | i'd guess anyways | 13:08 |
| entelechios | oh this box is up whaddya know | 13:08 |
| entelechios | gimme a sec | 13:08 |
| kanzure | oh i see it | 13:09 |
| kanzure | shiiitz | 13:09 |
| kanzure | line 16-18 | 13:09 |
| kanzure | should not be there | 13:09 |
| entelechios | yes | 13:10 |
| entelechios | and in sciencemagazine.py | 13:10 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/pull/33 | 13:10 |
| entelechios | line 40 | 13:10 |
| kanzure | whaat | 13:11 |
| kanzure | yeah i see it | 13:11 |
| entelechios | that's about it | 13:11 |
| entelechios | i didn't get much further than that | 13:11 |
| entelechios | had more pressing matters | 13:11 |
| entelechios | may as well fix it yourself i'm already on enough lists as it is w/o messing with something like pdfparanoia hahahaha | 13:12 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/pdfparanoia/pull/34 | 13:12 |
| entelechios | sweet | 13:12 |
| kanzure | okay merged both of those | 13:12 |
| entelechios | && using pdfminer at that commit is still recommended? | 13:13 |
| kanzure | still gotta use pdfminer, yeah | 13:14 |
| kanzure | i've released v0.0.15 to pypi if you care | 13:15 |
| kanzure | as of 2 seconds ago | 13:15 |
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| kanzure | so all of that should be fixed now | 13:21 |
| kanzure | let me know if there's still more BS causing you trouble | 13:21 |
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| entelechios | for sure. just trying to get xulrunner sdk working on freebsd at this point | 13:28 |
| entelechios | should work eventually :) | 13:28 |
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| kanzure | the javascript version of paperbot doesn't require xulrunner, so hopefully you will encourage me to make more progress on that | 13:31 |
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| ParahSailin | who was the one working with the acetobacter that makes cellulose | 14:26 |
| kanzure | i know a few people who were working with acetobacter, but not who was working on cellulose things | 14:30 |
| kanzure | i'll look up your request through my mini nsa database in a bit | 14:30 |
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| * brownies pokes gradstudentbot | 14:58 | |
| gradstudentbot | Don't you know you're contaminating my experiment? | 14:58 |
| * nalkri pokes gradstudentbot's experiment | 14:58 | |
| gradstudentbot | Don't you have anything better to be doing? | 14:58 |
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| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.5772/56057 | 15:32 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/22aa1614fbb0fcc051618b4e108acb85.txt | 15:32 |
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| entelechios | ParahSailin: http://cdn.intechopen.com/pdfs/44966/InTech-Bamboo_based_biocomposites_material_design_and_applications.pdf | 15:38 |
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| SPhericalMouse | toot toot | 17:55 |
| heath | . | 17:58 |
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| kanzure | SPhericalMouse: hey, how's it going? | 18:16 |
| SPhericalMouse | doing ok | 18:16 |
| SPhericalMouse | moving slowly on the fluid robot | 18:17 |
| SPhericalMouse | lots of starts and restarts | 18:17 |
| ParahSail1n | hm it was jonathan who was doing the acetobacter stuff | 18:18 |
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| kanzure | haha http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5854515/large-plot-20-million-samples-gigabytes-of-data | 19:32 |
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| entelechios | paperbot: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0063972 | 19:44 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Psychedelics%20and%20Mental%20Health%3A%20A%20Population%20Study.pdf | 19:44 |
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| justanotheruser | Hello | 20:30 |
| kanzure | hi | 20:40 |
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| kanzure | ugh this is not how you should write wrappers https://code.google.com/p/ctypes-opencv/source/browse/trunk/src/ctypes_opencv/cxcore.py#5809 | 21:06 |
| kanzure | 'ListPOINTER', 'ListPOINTER2', | 21:06 |
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| ParahSailin_ | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.conbuildmat.2011.10.046 | 21:28 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag3/10.1016/j.conbuildmat.2011.10.046.pdf | 21:28 |
| ParahSailin_ | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1061/(ASCE)MT.1943-5533.0000253 | 21:29 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3065da076c985b8586bb6ebe52ddd711.txt | 21:29 |
| justanotheruser | gradstudentbot: hello | 21:48 |
| gradstudentbot | Do I use a one or two sided t-test for that? | 21:48 |
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| justanotheruser | kanzure: do you like ted talks | 22:15 |
| kanzure | no | 22:22 |
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| justanotheruser | kanzure: do you like any forms of entertainment that inform? | 22:47 |
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| * brownies pokes gradstudentbot | 22:48 | |
| gradstudentbot | Why aren't you doing science right now? | 22:48 |
| poppingtonic | a_ | 22:48 |
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| justanotheruser1 | kanzure: do you like any form of entertainment that informs? | 22:51 |
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| kanzure | justanotheruser: ted doesn't inform. most of their talks are marketing pitches. | 23:02 |
| kanzure | justanotheruser: it becomes extremely obvious when you watch a talk from a friend and you see how they twist the details to fit the ted talk narrative. maybe you would enjoy watching the onion ted talks? | 23:02 |
| justanotheruser | Yes I have seen the onion talks | 23:03 |
| justanotheruser | and there are a lot of really bad ted talks I agree, but I think Paul Rothemunds talk was good | 23:03 |
| kanzure | paul rothemund is better in person | 23:04 |
| justanotheruser | Unless Paul Rothemund was that friend | 23:04 |
| kanzure | well, maybe not. he didn't seem to think so. | 23:04 |
| kanzure | no, there have been other friends of ##hplusroadmap that have given ted talks | 23:04 |
| kanzure | marcin, ellen, paul, other people i forget | 23:04 |
| justanotheruser | Does paul come on here? | 23:05 |
| kanzure | last time i saw paul was 2009 http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/2009-09-15-paul-rothemund/ | 23:05 |
| kanzure | no | 23:05 |
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| archels | not sure what to make of this http://www.sniffcode.com/ | 23:28 |
| archels | http://hplusmagazine.com/2012/08/15/an-interview-with-sniff-code-underground-transhumanist-artist/ | 23:28 |
| poppingtonic | I read about DRACO on hplusmagazine...really neat therapy | 23:34 |
| poppingtonic | god damnit, autoplay :( | 23:35 |
| kanzure | archels: ugh. that jerk keeps spamming my inbox with facebook friend invites or something. | 23:35 |
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