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| nmz787 | i guess it's not surprising that there's no one in # or ##hunting | 00:44 |
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| poppingtonic | gradstudentbot: what are you doing? | 04:53 |
| gradstudentbot | Well, I can't really talk about it because I'm trying to get it published in Science or Nature. | 04:53 |
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| streety | that's actually quite a good response. Does gradstudentbot just return a random response or is there a little bit of intelligence behind it? | 05:13 |
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| poppingtonic | i haven't had a chace to look at the code, but i think it returns random responses. | 05:30 |
| poppingtonic | *chance | 05:30 |
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| poppingtonic | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.2307%2F1971028 | 05:35 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2106da9b94c6547fb71465ccc2238717.txt | 05:35 |
| poppingtonic | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.2307/1971028 | 05:36 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5099429d2dd08a2dbbcd85c3e618c377.txt | 05:36 |
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| kanzure | streety: it's completely random | 07:37 |
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| kanzure | poppingtonic: actually i haven't put gradstudentbot's code anywhere. it's just a textfile and some irchooks. | 07:40 |
| gradstudentbot | The paper got rejected. | 07:40 |
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| * brownies pokes gradstudentbot | 07:45 | |
| gradstudentbot | Well, it looks better if you see it through a UV scope. | 07:45 |
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| delinquentme | image processing | 07:48 |
| delinquentme | where go for list + explanations | 07:49 |
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| kanzure | yikes "I am building an HTML5 game (canvas/2D) that is distributed both online and on mobile. It is asset heavy with total assets weighing in around 600 MB, with an initial download around 7 MB and progressive loading as the player advances. Sprites are relatively large and a fair bit of animation and effects can be going on at one time, although I try to keep scenes static to cut down on rendering. I am happy with performance, both on mobile ... | 07:59 |
| kanzure | ... and desktop browsers" | 08:00 |
| kanzure | that's from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6416201 | 08:00 |
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| blueskin | 600MB... of HTML? | 08:17 |
| blueskin | wow. | 08:17 |
| ParahSailin | assets | 08:17 |
| ParahSailin | images and audio, maybe video | 08:18 |
| blueskin | so, images if it's sprite based | 08:18 |
| blueskin | video... plsusible, I guess | 08:18 |
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| kanzure | pasky: https://github.com/openworm/Blender2NeuroML | 08:35 |
| pasky | hehe, I'm looking at this for the last hour | 08:38 |
| pasky | or less | 08:38 |
| kanzure | oh wow these .py filenames | 08:40 |
| kanzure | this hurts | 08:40 |
| kanzure | "import Blender" i think this means this can only be run inside blender | 08:40 |
| ParahSailin | haha i love the conistency in capitalizing wrl | 08:40 |
| pasky | yes it's a blender plugin | 08:41 |
| ParahSailin | and the .pyc files | 08:41 |
| kanzure | here's someone who did some ctypes bindings against blender http://lists.blender.org/pipermail/bf-python/2011-November/005728.html | 08:41 |
| ParahSailin | this is the best repo ever | 08:41 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: let's submit a pull request where we commit a .png that shows a picture of the contents of the .pyc file | 08:41 |
| pasky | the README is a little Yoda-ish | 08:42 |
| ParahSailin | and also xml is the best serialization ever | 08:42 |
| pasky | but hey if it works I can't blame them :) | 08:43 |
| kanzure | sure you can. it is very easy. | 08:43 |
| kanzure | i'm a little troubled about why everyone keeps writing python scripts that can only run inside blender. don't they know that's upside down? | 08:43 |
| ParahSailin | and these xls and ods files | 08:43 |
| kanzure | it restricts all python/blender scripts from running outside of the blender runtime | 08:43 |
| kanzure | which seems completely absurd to me | 08:43 |
| pasky | well i guess they want to take advantage of the runtime's model accessor methods | 08:44 |
| kanzure | i suppose if libblender does evil things- like implement its own event loops and stuff- maybe it's mandatory | 08:44 |
| pasky | but i have no idea about the blender ecosystem | 08:44 |
| kanzure | yeah but you can get that with ctypes+libblender i think | 08:44 |
| pasky | like libblender | 08:44 |
| kanzure | i'm not talking about these people in particular | 08:44 |
| kanzure | just blender in general | 08:44 |
| kanzure | a good chunk of blender is implemented in python plugins that "import Blender". but there's no python module called Blender. it's only exposed through the blender runtime. | 08:44 |
| kanzure | http://rpythonic.googlecode.com/files/ctypes_libblender.p | 08:45 |
| kanzure | oops | 08:45 |
| kanzure | http://rpythonic.googlecode.com/files/ctypes_libblender.py | 08:45 |
| ParahSailin | well, you're writing a library intended to work identically within browser and node interpreters | 08:46 |
| kanzure | oh weird i didn't know about this ctypes generator. i've been using ctypesgen. i wonder if rpythonic works better. | 08:46 |
| ParahSailin | sometimes environments are so specialized that it makes sense to write specialized code | 08:46 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: hm? | 08:46 |
| kanzure | maybe. | 08:46 |
| kanzure | https://code.google.com/p/rpythonic/ | 08:46 |
| kanzure | "RPythonic is a frontend for using RPython (the translation toolchain of PyPy), it simplifies: wrapper generation, compiling standalone programs and Python extension modules. It also generates wrappers for C libraries using ctypes that can be loaded by CPython2, CPython3, and PyPy. Rpythonic also aims to advance the Rpython language by removing some of its limitations, and making it more useful as a general purpose language." | 08:46 |
| gradstudentbot | Should I be reading this? | 08:46 |
| ParahSailin | isnt the ffi in pypy pretty immature? | 08:47 |
| kanzure | i don't know anything about it | 08:47 |
| ParahSailin | /nonexistent | 08:47 |
| kanzure | i've been fucking around with https://github.com/kanzure/ctypesgen because of the brlcad/python things i am doing | 08:47 |
| kanzure | ctypesgen is poorly written and needs a bit of work before it will do precisely what i want | 08:47 |
| kanzure | huh, their downloads page has ctypes ogre bindings. that's a fairly big library.. | 08:49 |
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| kanzure | what in the fuck | 08:50 |
| kanzure | "if '--emokit' in sys.argv or ALL:" | 08:50 |
| kanzure | so they.. are wrapping my eeg library. | 08:50 |
| kanzure | but.. i wrote a native python version of emokit.. so.. wtf? | 08:50 |
| kanzure | rpythonic.wrap( 'emokit', header='/usr/local/include/libepoc.h', library = '/usr/local/lib/libepoc.so',) | 08:51 |
| kanzure | global LIBS, CTYPES_OUTPUT, RFFI_OUTPUT, INCLUDE_DIRS, SYS_INCLUDE_DIRS, MACRO_DEFS, MACRO_UNDEFS, | 08:55 |
| kanzure | okay yeah this is worse | 08:55 |
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| kanzure | unrelated note, hadoop/python/cython-based wrapper http://www.hadoopy.com/en/latest/ | 09:01 |
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| ParahSailin | this mutation nomenclature is quite difficult to parse http://www.hgvs.org/mutnomen/recs-DNA.html | 11:59 |
| ParahSailin | thanks: c.76_78del (alternatively c.76_78delACT) | 12:00 |
| ParahSailin | only a biologist would come up with a nomenclature that required LR parser | 12:04 |
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| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2105/12/S4/S5 | 12:15 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1186%2F1471-2105-12-S4-S5 | 12:15 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.cryptographyengineering.com/2013/09/the-many-flaws-of-dualecdrbg.html | 14:43 |
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| kanzure | http://lists.randombit.net/pipermail/cryptography/2013-September/005341.html | 14:45 |
| kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6419610 | 14:45 |
| yoleaux | RSA warns developers not to use RSA products | Hacker News | 14:45 |
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| kanzure | .title http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070321/021508.shtml | 14:49 |
| yoleaux | Can We Get Rid Of The Disclosure Myth For Patents? | Techdirt | 14:49 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: there was some package manager a while ago i mentioned sounded nice and easy, you said it sucked, but do you remember what it was called? | 17:11 |
| nmz787 | sorry | 17:12 |
| nmz787 | not package manager | 17:12 |
| nmz787 | packager | 17:12 |
| nmz787 | for .debs | 17:12 |
| kanzure | fpm? | 17:15 |
| jrayhawk | was it python-stdeb | 17:15 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, I read the paper, I just don't remember the details. | 17:15 |
| kanzure | i don't recall saying fpm sucks lately | 17:15 |
| kanzure | and i've never known about python-stdeb | 17:15 |
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| nmz787 | yeah fpm i think | 17:44 |
| nmz787 | yeah there's no mention of it in the logs recently | 17:45 |
| nmz787 | it's in my history for july though | 17:45 |
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| kanzure | hmm http://www.chromium.org/blink/webidl | 19:44 |
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| kanzure | "Implementation-wise, the lexer and parser are written in PLY (Python lex-yacc), an implementation of lex and yacc for Python. A standard-compliant lexer is used (Chromium tools/idl_parser/idl_lexer.py). The parser (Blink Source/bindings/scripts/blink_idl_parser.py) derives from a standard-compliant parser (Chromium tools/idl_parser/idl_parser.py)." | 19:50 |
| kanzure | oh brother | 19:51 |
| kanzure | https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch#chromium/src/tools/idl_parser/idl_parser.py | 19:51 |
| kanzure | so the chromium project commits *.pyc files? | 19:51 |
| kanzure | what the hell guys | 19:51 |
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| kanzure | argh who the hell edited this https://github.com/rogerwang/node-webkit/wiki/How-node.js-is-integrated-with-chromium | 20:02 |
| kanzure | 'cause all the paths are wrong | 20:02 |
| kanzure | oh wait "Last edited by Bryan Bishop, 3 months ago" | 20:03 |
| kanzure | screw that guy | 20:03 |
| kanzure | haha, the runtime is slow (no duh) http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17537851/odd-speed-difference-10ms-vs-520ms-between-node-and-node-webkit | 20:12 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.usenix.org/event/nsdi10/tech/full_papers/mickens-mugshot.pdf | 20:16 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4699e49cf4f070eacbc04fd3341d96d8.pdf | 20:16 |
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