2013-10-17.log

--- Log opened Thu Oct 17 00:00:57 2013
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archelsthese guys are capitalizing every instance of the word equation. so cute03:53
archels"The HH model quantifies the process of spike generation with a set of four differential Equations (Trappenberg, 2010)"03:53
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eudoxiahey where did gradstudentbot go06:30
eudoxiais he/she okay? ;_;06:30
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chris_99does anyone know anything about this http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/techinnovations/2005-04-06-sony-patent_x.htm08:02
chris_99!title08:03
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yoleauxSony patents technique of beaming info into brain08:03
chris_99"The U.S. patent, granted to Sony researcher Thomas Dawson, describes a technique for aiming ultrasonic pulses at specific areas of the brain to induce "sensory experiences" such as smells, sounds and images."08:04
chris_99'This spatial resolution is approximately five times better than other more conventional noninvasive brain stimulation methods like TMS.;08:10
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kanzurehaha the patent office sucks08:29
kanzurethat's obviously the same patent as that dude from arizona08:29
chris_99seen http://www.tylerlab.com/home ?08:32
kanzureyes08:32
kanzuresee http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/08:33
chris_99aha neat08:33
kanzurethere's also the tyler-specific subdirectory08:33
chris_99would it be hard to DIY this, like do they use some special type of transducer08:34
kanzurei had someone make a cost estimate08:35
kanzureone of the papers said $100 in parts08:36
chris_99oooh08:36
chris_99i think i prefer the idea of this than getting zapped with electricity08:36
kanzure"This isn't going to be $100 for an experiment in focused stimulation/cooking, it's going to be $100 in parts for enough to drive one ultrasound transducer. To drive an array such as annular rings that could focus through a rabbit skull might be 10 or twenty drivers. The power levels you want are maybe 10,000 x lower than the cavitation producing levels they used."08:37
kanzureanyway i haven't independently confirmed that estimate08:37
chris_99ah interesting08:37
kanzurethe other problem is figuring out a reasonable battery of tests to use when trying out brain stimulation08:38
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/664a7fef7c56221148ab75759d29f431.pdf08:38
chris_99yeah.  Would you put the rings on a parabolic dish?08:38
kanzurethose results showed electrical stimulation for the most part, and the results are sorta interesting, but it's hard to get a good visual understanding of where in the brain people have been prodded.08:38
kanzuresupposedly there might be a way to stimulate the brain in certain areas that would prove interesting in a transhumanist way. for example, turning on/off auditory processing.08:39
chris_99what would turning off auditory processing mean exactly, like you couldn't comprehend the speech, even though you could still hear it, or mean that you can't heard sounds at all08:40
kanzurethe "motor intentions" one is interesting. i didn't see that in my first pass of that document.08:41
kanzurechris_99: i'm intentionally not specifying that.08:42
kanzurechris_99: i don't really care08:42
chris_99aha08:42
kanzurechris_99: doing either of those things is interesting, but not particularly useful08:42
kanzure"Unpleasant sensation of suffocation" uh..08:42
chris_99i'm suprised this could induce visual hallucinations08:42
kanzureiirc there are many studies on visual hallucinations08:45
kanzurethe visual cortex is "right there"08:45
kanzureno deep brain probing required08:45
chris_99mm, i've heard of the ganzfeld effect, where you just use two ping pong balls08:46
chris_99it just seems interesting how you can do it through ultrasound/tms etc though08:47
kanzurei don't know why anyone wants to bother with tdcs given ultrasound. there's less people that have made rigs but that shouldn't be an acceptable reason.08:47
kanzureone of the papers tested the ultrasound stimulation apparatus against a chunk of meat from a grocery store08:48
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kanzureapplied stimulation08:48
kanzurethen sliced the meat and imaged the cuts (i forget the right word)08:48
kanzurenot cuts but abberations? aversions? abortions?08:48
chris_99hmm not sure08:49
kanzureabrasion08:49
chris_99so it left a mark in the middle of it?08:50
kanzureyes.. considering that this was used to evaporate tumors, i think that's reasonable to expect.08:50
kanzurelow power systems have been used for neuron stimulation, though.08:50
chris_99ah so they where using a lot higher power then i guese08:51
chris_99*guess08:51
chris_99so you could potentially seriously mess up your brain if you used the wrong power i assume08:52
kanzuresame with dc08:53
chris_99true08:54
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kanzurelibcloud is nice12:47
ParahSailinheh BMR source code leak12:51
kanzureBMR?13:01
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ParahSailinblack market reloaded13:08
kanzurecan you link me.13:09
chris_99ooh interesting13:09
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ParahSailinhttp://atlantisblog.org/black-market-reloaded-to-close-after-security-lapse/13:17
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chris_99un-prepared queries13:19
chris_99tut tut13:19
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chris_99am i right in thinking silkroad had similar issues too13:25
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nmz787anyone wanna criticize my beginners/intro electronics and microcontrollers lecture slidedeck?16:51
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kanzurejust post them17:08
kanzuredon't ask to ask17:08
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nmz787paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/BF0279746921:29
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/e479bd27e9052dbf68f8ca95f1fa4d13.txt21:29
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nmz787paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/BF0187081621:41
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bbaba34357ab39d2bb98f20be8ac31cb.txt21:41
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justanotheruserIs there a synthesis database that has the synthesis laid out on their website (not links to a journal) preferably in a standard set of instructions rather than paragraph format23:08
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nmz787When we sleep, the lymphatic system flushes cerebral spinal fluid (CSF) through the brain, clearing out toxins.23:59
nmz787http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/news/story/index.cfm?id=395623:59
nmz787justanotheruser: i think there are some pay-sites that have that23:59
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