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@nmz787paperbot: http://scitation.aip.org/content/aip/journal/rsi/12/12/10.1063/1.176980516:12
@nmz787deadtreebot is more like it16:12
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Scitation%3A%20A%20Comparison%20Between%20a%20GeigerMueller%20Counter%2C%20a%20Secondary%20Electron%20Multiplier%20Tube%2C%20and%20Photographic%20Film%20for%20Detecting%20Weak%20XRays.txt16:12
@nmz787paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/1.176980516:13
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5d6c3d0ca6775c84ea24e85129ab2321.txt16:13
@nmz787kanzure_: paperbot is borked16:13
pan4xhttp://scitation.aip.org/docserver/fulltext/aip/journal/rsi/12/12/1.1769805.pdf?expires=1383784187&id=id&accname=478495&checksum=BBF3B9D2A952825FA0EE7721B531AEBD16:15
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kanzure_nmz787: yes we know it's broken16:22
kanzure_nmz787: https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot/issues16:22
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mporterone technique of conceptual advancement in biotechnology is to look for metaphors and make them real, e.g. flying pigs17:06
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mporterin this vein, i would like to report progress in literally realizing another conception previously confined to the fantastic, 'monkeys flying out of someone's butt'17:07
mporterhttp://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=precision-gene-editing-paves-way-for-transgenic-monkeys tells us that we can now get to work on designing flying monkeys17:08
yashgarothI'm working on a six-assed monkey myself, perhaps we can combine efforts17:08
yashgarothup to four asses so far but it's promising17:08
mporterwell. i was going to say that the appropriate paradigm, for realizing emergence of monkeys from a butt, is male pregnancy17:08
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kanzure_my uncle is a six-assed monkey, perhaps we can make an arrangement17:08
yashgarothI'm gonna need a sample from him, how you get it is up to you17:09
mportera section of the sigmoid colon wall can be converted to uterine tissue, and the flying monkey zygotes can grow there17:09
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kanzure_i don't really understand why you would want to do that17:09
kanzure_if you want to convert your cells into something that can turn into zygotes or whatever, that's cool17:10
kanzure_but you might as well implant them in a female uterus somewhere17:10
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mporterthis is conceptual bio-art, my friend. you don't actually do it, you just blow your mind with the fact that you COULD do it17:10
kanzure_sorry, but my mind is a fortress and this does not blow it away, fuck off17:10
mporterclearly this lifecycle could be combined with the six-assed monkey17:10
mportera butt-gestating six-assed flying monkey17:11
mporterthat is today's discovery17:11
ThomasEgiblowing minds with concepts?. that's like designing brigdes to gap canyons and then never build them. or in short. no good unless you want attention.17:11
kanzure_yashgaroth: what have you been doing for work things?17:11
yashgarothwork things?17:11
kanzure_yashgaroth: just curious. are you still ferretting samples around for hplc all day?17:12
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yashgarothpsh naw that's only like 15% of my day, mostly I purify proteins and fill out paperwork17:12
kanzure_sounds like an adventure, of sorts17:12
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yashgarothit's a living...got a fully functioning plate washer that they tossed out because a pinch valve had sealed a tube shut17:13
yashgarothI literally massaged a tube and got a plate washer, enough stuff like that to keep me working there17:13
kanzure_plate washer -> dish washing machine? or something more elaborate?17:14
yashgarothfor 96-well plates, can suction and dispense liquids, for doing ELISAs and stuff17:14
yashgaroththey're pretty useful if you don't want to spend half an hour pipetting and banging a plate against a paper towel17:15
chidoyashgaroth: how's the biohackerspace doing by the way?17:15
yashgaroththere's a few companies inhabiting it, but I've no idea of the actual financials17:16
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yashgarothjojack seems less worried than he did before, though that's also hard to gauge17:16
yashgarothI just wish we had more people like me to score 'broken' equipment and reagents from work17:17
chidoall we scored so far is some sort of ancient automatic blood coagulation analyzer17:18
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yashgarothsurely it has components you can salvage, though I'm not sure what goes into one of those17:19
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kanzure_chido: you should post teardowns17:20
kanzure_chido: i would like to see what goes on deep inside those machines :)17:20
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chidoyashgaroth: it should be able to automatically analyze a batch of samples by applying reagents via automatic pipette, so maybe if we can reverse-engineer it we could use it as a general lab bot17:22
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yashgarothoh so it's like take a blood sample and add coagulants/anticoagulants to it and see what happens? what's the manufacturer/model #?17:24
chidoapparently it's a Sysmex CA540 Coagulation Analyzer17:29
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juri_paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1145/2493432.249348617:38
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Instant%20inkjet%20circuits%3A%20lab-based%20inkjet%20printing%20to%20support%20rapid%20prototyping%20of%20UbiComp%20devices.pdf17:38
yashgarothwell it has an absurdly long manual but I'm pretty sure you can do some interesting stuff with it17:38
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@nmz787juri_: that's brilliant!18:42
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juri_nmz787: its impressive.18:47
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@nmz787paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/978-3-540-85156-1_33420:23
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/acd25e2abf9c0421ab0e20b0ac8b357d.txt20:23
@nmz787can anyone get that for me?20:23
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justanotherusernmz787:20:51
justanotheruseryou still there?20:52
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entelechiospaperbot: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2413697021:00
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.124122421:00
entelechiosThe conservation of sleep across all animal species suggests that sleep serves a vital function. We here report that sleep has a critical function in ensuring metabolic homeostasis. Using real-time assessments of tetramethylammonium diffusion and two-photon imaging in live mice, we show that natural sleep or anesthesia are associated with a 60% increase in the interstitial space, resulting in a striking increase in convective exchange of ...21:01
entelechios... cerebrospinal fluid with interstitial fluid. In turn, convective fluxes of interstitial fluid increased the rate of β-amyloid clearance during sleep. Thus, the restorative function of sleep may be a consequence of the enhanced removal of potentially neurotoxic waste products that accumulate in the awake central nervous system.21:01
entelechiospaperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1129088121:03
n_benthadod someone say marijuana?21:09
entelechiosdrugs are illegal21:09
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@nmz787justanotheruser: here21:14
justanotherusernmz787: do you still need that pdf?21:14
@nmz787yes21:15
justanotherusernmz787: I am attempting to send you the file. Do you see it?21:15
@nmz787hmm, no21:15
justanotheruserNow?21:15
@nmz787I don't know how to accept21:15
justanotheruserwhat client are you using?21:16
@nmz787irssi21:16
@nmz787just tried slash dcc get [yourname]21:16
@nmz787oh21:17
@nmz787try now21:17
justanotheruserSee it nmz787?21:18
@nmz787i think you need to not send any text messages21:19
@nmz787it tells me no file offered by you21:20
justanotherusernmz787: http://www.filedropper.com/chp3a1010072f978-3-540-85156-133421:20
justanotheruserI'm a student, so if anyone needs a paper paperbot can't get feel free to highlight me.21:20
@nmz787thanks21:21
justanotherusernp21:21
@nmz787same for me21:21
justanotheruserDoes your school not have a springer subscription?21:21
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kanzure_springer provides many different subscriptions and often their packages exclude half their journals21:23
justanotheruseroh, I see21:25
kanzure_this site is claiming i can buy lab reagents with bitcoins, http://www.rechemco.net/21:31
kanzure_"RECHEMCO has an experienced team of chemists with a depth of knowledge and experience in complex organic syntheses including prostaglandins, leukotrienes, cannabinoids, fatty acids, heterocyclic chemistry, and pheromones.  Our sales staff and chemists will quickly respond to your custom synthesis inquiries with competitive pricing and aggressive lead times. "21:32
kanzure_hah they have an affiliate program.21:33
justanotheruserkanzure_: They're going to charge you for the conversion to USD too. Whatever they sell you in bitcoins is going to be 5%-10% more than it would be.21:33
kanzure_so?21:34
entelechiosi don't trust anyone who takes a name that's similar to reputed sources for such things21:34
entelechiosand runs with it21:34
entelechiossketchy sketchcore21:34
justanotheruserkanzure_: so if you want to buy reagents cheaply, then they might not be your best option.21:34
entelechiosthese are chemicals we're talking about not cheap chinese toy knockoffs like 'axion man' or 'loogo'21:35
entelechioshttp://rechem.ca is who they're trying to pretend to be21:35
kanzure_justanotheruser: i don't care if it's cheap or not (although i do care about my per reaction costs, often)21:37
justanotheruserkanzure_: Well if you don't care about price then I guess it doesn't matter, but if there is another company who can offer the same for less I would go with them personally.21:38
entelechiosi care about what it looks like after being assayed21:39
entelechiospeople do like to fuck around with these things21:39
entelechiosit's highly profitable21:39
justanotheruserDo you guys know who Dave Aspray is?21:41
justanotheruser*Asprey21:41
entelechioshel21:42
entelechioshe's incarcerated**21:42
justanotheruserReally?21:42
entelechioshe went to jail for murdering his wife21:42
justanotheruserWHAT?21:42
entelechiosyou didn't hear bout this yet?21:42
entelechiosgoogle it21:42
justanotheruserno, I'm just watching one of his videos now21:42
entelechioshahahaha okay i'm fucking with you.21:42
justanotheruserHe seems pseudoscientific21:42
entelechioshe seems like some cheesy motivational speaker who might murder his wife21:42
entelechiosmeh21:43
justanotheruserHes recommending 1 stick of butter every day21:43
entelechiosahahaha. master troll.21:43
entelechiosthe best part is, people will believe him21:43
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