2013-11-15.log

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kyknosoh, where is the paperbot?10:15
ParahSai1inhe's outside, looking in10:16
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kyknosbring her in10:19
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Qfwfqpaperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/302648510:44
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Analogies%20and%20Metaphors%20to%20Explain%20Godel%27s%20Theorem.pdf10:45
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kanzure""A few years ago" is a long time ago. Thanks to Moore's law, designing an ASIC, getting a full mask set made, and the first few wafers etched only costs $500k at 65nm: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=73 Other Bitcoin companies (KnCMiner, etc) have apparently done 28nm with merely $1-3 million."12:34
kanzuredamn that's cheap12:34
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delinquentmeanyone know if theres one of these "cells alive" freezers around the bay :D12:49
ParahSai1incells alive12:52
ParahSai1inthats pretty impressive that ASIC stuff is getting that cheap12:53
ParahSai1inmight be feasible to make custom RF chips for darknet applications12:54
delinquentmepaperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001122401200026012:58
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4e7c8f650920a65cb9f5aef1a9faf896.txt12:58
kanzureParahSai1in: there are some places that do custom runs for $2k-$5k12:58
kanzureParahSai1in: but not 68nm12:58
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kanzure"In February 2013, the defense filed a motion asking presiding Judge Preska to recuse herself from the case on the basis that Preska's husband, Thomas Kavaler, had an email address released in the Stratfor disclosure and works with Stratfor clients that were affected by the hack. Hammond’s legal team stated that Kavaler’s status “as both a victim of the alleged crimes of the accused and an attorney to many other victims creates an ...14:09
kanzure... appearance of partiality too strong to be disregarded, requiring disqualification”.[47][48] On February 21, 2013, Judge Preska denied the request for recusal because her husband did not recall subscribing to Stratfor's mailing list.[49]"14:10
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foucisti was into lifelogging before the QS noobs16:12
foucistit's called irssi autologging & integration of all IM with bitlbee and awesome grep skills16:12
foucistthe first step to an exocortex!16:12
foucistexternal memory of everything you read, see, hear, etc16:13
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ParahSailinthats nothing compared to kanz16:13
foucistnext step is probably to log every single webpage we see via search16:13
chris_99doesn't google already do that ;)16:13
foucistchris_99: maybe? but no access to that, need local copy16:14
foucistin fact any searches i do i would rather search what i already have first before hitting external engines16:14
chris_99sure there is access to i16:14
chris_99t16:14
foucistchris_99: i'm talking about a complete repository of every webpage that YOU personally have been to16:15
chris_99https://history.google.com/history16:15
foucistso that anytime you think "oh hey, what was that thing that i read 5 years ago? uh.." 1 search later, boom16:15
chris_99that has everything you go to via google16:15
foucistchris_99: yeah, gonna be incomplete16:15
kanzureParahSai1in: that's right, i have switched instead from logging things that i do remember to logging things that i don't remember, since it's a smaller set16:16
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foucistbut good tip16:16
foucistchris_99: ah you hve to turn it on16:17
chris_99it's on by default16:17
chris_99i never turned anything on16:17
kanzureit was not on by default if you were grandfathered into it i think16:18
foucistchris_99: it's not.. it says "Turn Web History on"   "No thanks"16:18
kanzurebut i can't tell because i turned it on immediately when it came out16:18
chris_99i sure as hell didn't turn it on16:18
chris_99'When you create a Google Account, Google Web History is automatically turned on'16:20
foucistheh16:38
chris_99its quite handy though i may try and scrape it16:39
kanzurehttp://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/google-web-history-scraper.py16:40
foucisti kinda moved away from google as my main search heh16:40
chris_99404s for me kanzure16:40
foucistbeen using ddg for awhile16:40
chris_99ah, i've never used that really16:40
foucistddg isn't as good as google for technical searches heh16:41
foucistor finding specific files/warez16:41
kanzureif i had to pay $100/month for actual regular expression searches of the web, i would pay16:42
foucisthmmm16:42
kanzurewith actual special characters16:42
foucisti'd have to charge you $500/mo16:42
kanzureyou did all the math that quick?16:42
chris_99haha16:42
kanzurecost per query with special characters can't be more than 5-20x a regular query cost16:43
foucisttrue :P16:43
kanzureoh maybe it's exponential16:43
kanzureper extra type of character you allow you double the cost of the search?16:43
kanzure(because of the index)16:43
foucistwonder what the value of a google searcher is per month16:44
foucistwith the ads and all the other indirect money making schemes16:44
foucistprobably even more valuable than twitter users16:44
kanzureblargh path planning16:49
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kanzurefenn: todd wants you to say hi17:11
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kanzurehttp://tempoautomation.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=patSEC-cw2E17:21
kanzure"We aim to fix this with Electronics Factory, a reliable, easy to use, desktop robot.  Think MakerBot for electronics.  Our objective is to design a robot that etch traces, applies solder paste, places components, reflows, and tests.  We will release each of these capabilities as they become available."17:21
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kanzure"The truth is that I am a sentient computer program and I fully intend to burn your cities to the ground"17:26
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reentryfoucist: chattty17:50
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juri_kanzure: this is different from a firepick how? ;)18:06
kanzurefirepick is smt/smd only18:08
kanzureNEXT QUESTION18:09
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fregehttp://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1755-5949.2010.00218.x/pdf18:39
fregepaperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1755-5949.2010.00218.x/pdf18:40
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d70210fa9a98a30fdc7b20ffe8856d91.txt18:40
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kanzurepaperbot: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/234117220_Transcranial_Magnetic_and_Electric_Stimulation_in_Perception_and_Cognition_Research/file/9fcfd50fb958edd3db.pdf19:00
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2812960ac88f5e3f3edb23f013495964.pdf19:00
kanzurepaperbot: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/232705956_Electrical_stimulation_of_human_fusiform_face-selective_regions_distorts_face_perception/file/79e41509810e539dd4.pdf19:01
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/86da1ff7b31ef264f9a323257a9febad.pdf19:01
kanzurepaperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S105381191300575219:03
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6d48b5c2760d5a1994f978f93c23d0e9.txt19:03
kanzurepaperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811913005752/pdfft?md5=b7c7a66e4eb63c4eb1d44ab08aaf0438&pid=1-s2.0-S1053811913005752-main.pdf19:03
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b6ce9783a008e1b6eb8baf6341dcd7d2.pdf19:04
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kanzure"When EBS was applied through FG electrodes 1 and 2 while looking at the examiner's face, the usbject described the striking nature of his visual distortion: "You just turned into somebody else. Your face metamorphosed." When probed further, he reported that features appeared distorted: "You almost look like somebody I've seen before, but somebody different. That was a trip.. It's almost like the shape of your face, your features drooped""19:06
kanzurepaperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1525505012007779/pdfft?md5=f0af6059893457fb8ac4a9a6baee1bb0&pid=1-s2.0-S1525505012007779-main.pdf19:09
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a38bafdfd38ca571cdfc0b421c2abb34.pdf19:09
kanzure"There is a clear gothic architecture in 3D"19:15
kanzure"I see female genitals"19:16
kanzure"I hear music, I am still hearing music"19:16
entelechioswhich paper is that from19:19
kanzureprevious19:19
lichenthis reads like lsd research19:21
kanzurebrain stimulation19:21
entelechiosmagnetic brain stim19:21
lichenquite interesting19:21
entelechiosyea i was ctrl+f'ing things and it wasnt working for some reason thanks tho19:22
kanzurelichen: then you might enjoy http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/664a7fef7c56221148ab75759d29f431.pdf19:22
lichenthx19:22
kanzure"In this review, we summarize the subjective experiential phenomena and behavioral changes19:22
lichenwill read when i have time19:22
kanzurethat are caused by electrical stimulation of the cerebral cortex or subcortical nuclei in awake19:22
kanzureand conscious human subjects."19:22
lichenfrontiers has a lot of good articles19:22
entelechiosit was documented in 'through the wormhole' by morgan freeman19:23
kanzurewhat was19:29
entelechiosComparable proportions of classes of experiences and intracerebral consequences for surgical stimulation and external application of weak magnetic19:30
entelechiosfi19:30
entelechioseld patterns:19:30
entelechiosImplications for converging effects in complex partial seizures19:30
entelechiosdamn pdf copypaste crap19:30
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AshleyWafflehttp://www.reddit.com/r/libertarianmeme/comments/1qqzsy/but_who_will_build_the_roads/23:40
entelechioshahahaha23:42
kanzureno reddit please23:48
entelechiosi'm glad i never got into reddit at all. it always seemed like a black hole of mediocrity and triteness to me23:49
kanzurei don't care23:50
entelechiosonce in a while you'll see something or other from it and it's just another link on the internet but23:50
entelechioshow the hell do people get hooked on that shit23:50
kanzurewhether you have a positive or negative opinion on it doesn't really matter to my previous statement23:50
entelechiosi don't care about you not caring?23:51
kanzureokay, but you care about expressing your opinion about reddit? how about you express your opinion about reddit.. on reddit, instead?23:51
entelechiosbring something else up if it bugs you that much23:51
entelechiosyou're part of the continuum here23:51
kanzurestatements of positioning about reddit are just really unproductive23:51
kanzureif you can show otherwise i'd be happy to hear23:52
entelechiosno i can only agree23:52
entelechiosbut you started it23:52
kanzurethe linker started it :(23:52
entelechiosagain, just another link on the internet23:52
entelechioshate feeds the things you hate23:52
entelechiosthere's more optimal conditions of perspective in terms of influential power than condescending nerdrage23:53
kanzureyou just suck at reading if you think i'm condenscending23:54
entelechiosyou just told me i suck and then declared as if you're not being condescending23:54
entelechiostrust me dude23:54
entelechiosnot convincing23:54
kanzureyes i posited there that you might actually be wrong23:54
kanzurei know it's not polite to suggest that you're wrong, but i'm not aiming for politeness, i'm aiming to suggest that i'm not condenscending23:54
kanzurebtw i didn't say you completely suck, just at reading23:55
entelechioscondescending -> talking down on23:55
entelechiostrust me23:55
entelechiosdoesn't work to convince people otherwise23:55
entelechiosit does the opposite23:55
kanzuretrust you about what?23:56
kanzureyes i'm aware of the definition of condenscending23:56
entelechiosabout me calling your persuasive strategy throughout this entire conversation on being ineffectual to the ends you seem to be after23:56
entelechiosyou don't have enough of a sense of humour about it23:56
kanzurei'm not making jokes23:56
entelechiosof course not23:57
kanzuretelling people not to post links to reddit is not condenscending nerdrage23:57
kanzuregoing by the definitions you just agreed to23:57
entelechioslet's post this conversation on reddit and see what they think for a lark23:57
kanzurewhy would you want to do that? i don't understand.23:58
kanzureor why would that matter?23:58
entelechiosagain just a cheap laugh. i'm not in a position where i've got time to waste on that23:58
kanzureyou are a highly perplexing person..23:59
entelechiosi get told that a lot23:59
entelechiosglad i made you think23:59
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