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kyknos | oh, where is the paperbot? | 10:15 |
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ParahSai1in | he's outside, looking in | 10:16 |
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kyknos | bring her in | 10:19 |
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Qfwfq | paperbot: http://www.jstor.org/stable/3026485 | 10:44 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Analogies%20and%20Metaphors%20to%20Explain%20Godel%27s%20Theorem.pdf | 10:45 |
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kanzure | ""A few years ago" is a long time ago. Thanks to Moore's law, designing an ASIC, getting a full mask set made, and the first few wafers etched only costs $500k at 65nm: http://blog.zorinaq.com/?e=73 Other Bitcoin companies (KnCMiner, etc) have apparently done 28nm with merely $1-3 million." | 12:34 |
kanzure | damn that's cheap | 12:34 |
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delinquentme | anyone know if theres one of these "cells alive" freezers around the bay :D | 12:49 |
ParahSai1in | cells alive | 12:52 |
ParahSai1in | thats pretty impressive that ASIC stuff is getting that cheap | 12:53 |
ParahSai1in | might be feasible to make custom RF chips for darknet applications | 12:54 |
delinquentme | paperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0011224012000260 | 12:58 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4e7c8f650920a65cb9f5aef1a9faf896.txt | 12:58 |
kanzure | ParahSai1in: there are some places that do custom runs for $2k-$5k | 12:58 |
kanzure | ParahSai1in: but not 68nm | 12:58 |
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kanzure | "In February 2013, the defense filed a motion asking presiding Judge Preska to recuse herself from the case on the basis that Preska's husband, Thomas Kavaler, had an email address released in the Stratfor disclosure and works with Stratfor clients that were affected by the hack. Hammond’s legal team stated that Kavaler’s status “as both a victim of the alleged crimes of the accused and an attorney to many other victims creates an ... | 14:09 |
kanzure | ... appearance of partiality too strong to be disregarded, requiring disqualification”.[47][48] On February 21, 2013, Judge Preska denied the request for recusal because her husband did not recall subscribing to Stratfor's mailing list.[49]" | 14:10 |
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foucist | i was into lifelogging before the QS noobs | 16:12 |
foucist | it's called irssi autologging & integration of all IM with bitlbee and awesome grep skills | 16:12 |
foucist | the first step to an exocortex! | 16:12 |
foucist | external memory of everything you read, see, hear, etc | 16:13 |
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ParahSailin | thats nothing compared to kanz | 16:13 |
foucist | next step is probably to log every single webpage we see via search | 16:13 |
chris_99 | doesn't google already do that ;) | 16:13 |
foucist | chris_99: maybe? but no access to that, need local copy | 16:14 |
foucist | in fact any searches i do i would rather search what i already have first before hitting external engines | 16:14 |
chris_99 | sure there is access to i | 16:14 |
chris_99 | t | 16:14 |
foucist | chris_99: i'm talking about a complete repository of every webpage that YOU personally have been to | 16:15 |
chris_99 | https://history.google.com/history | 16:15 |
foucist | so that anytime you think "oh hey, what was that thing that i read 5 years ago? uh.." 1 search later, boom | 16:15 |
chris_99 | that has everything you go to via google | 16:15 |
foucist | chris_99: yeah, gonna be incomplete | 16:15 |
kanzure | ParahSai1in: that's right, i have switched instead from logging things that i do remember to logging things that i don't remember, since it's a smaller set | 16:16 |
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foucist | but good tip | 16:16 |
foucist | chris_99: ah you hve to turn it on | 16:17 |
chris_99 | it's on by default | 16:17 |
chris_99 | i never turned anything on | 16:17 |
kanzure | it was not on by default if you were grandfathered into it i think | 16:18 |
foucist | chris_99: it's not.. it says "Turn Web History on" "No thanks" | 16:18 |
kanzure | but i can't tell because i turned it on immediately when it came out | 16:18 |
chris_99 | i sure as hell didn't turn it on | 16:18 |
chris_99 | 'When you create a Google Account, Google Web History is automatically turned on' | 16:20 |
foucist | heh | 16:38 |
chris_99 | its quite handy though i may try and scrape it | 16:39 |
kanzure | http://heybryan.org/~bbishop/docs/google-web-history-scraper.py | 16:40 |
foucist | i kinda moved away from google as my main search heh | 16:40 |
chris_99 | 404s for me kanzure | 16:40 |
foucist | been using ddg for awhile | 16:40 |
chris_99 | ah, i've never used that really | 16:40 |
foucist | ddg isn't as good as google for technical searches heh | 16:41 |
foucist | or finding specific files/warez | 16:41 |
kanzure | if i had to pay $100/month for actual regular expression searches of the web, i would pay | 16:42 |
foucist | hmmm | 16:42 |
kanzure | with actual special characters | 16:42 |
foucist | i'd have to charge you $500/mo | 16:42 |
kanzure | you did all the math that quick? | 16:42 |
chris_99 | haha | 16:42 |
kanzure | cost per query with special characters can't be more than 5-20x a regular query cost | 16:43 |
foucist | true :P | 16:43 |
kanzure | oh maybe it's exponential | 16:43 |
kanzure | per extra type of character you allow you double the cost of the search? | 16:43 |
kanzure | (because of the index) | 16:43 |
foucist | wonder what the value of a google searcher is per month | 16:44 |
foucist | with the ads and all the other indirect money making schemes | 16:44 |
foucist | probably even more valuable than twitter users | 16:44 |
kanzure | blargh path planning | 16:49 |
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kanzure | fenn: todd wants you to say hi | 17:11 |
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kanzure | http://tempoautomation.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=patSEC-cw2E | 17:21 |
kanzure | "We aim to fix this with Electronics Factory, a reliable, easy to use, desktop robot. Think MakerBot for electronics. Our objective is to design a robot that etch traces, applies solder paste, places components, reflows, and tests. We will release each of these capabilities as they become available." | 17:21 |
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kanzure | "The truth is that I am a sentient computer program and I fully intend to burn your cities to the ground" | 17:26 |
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reentry | foucist: chattty | 17:50 |
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juri_ | kanzure: this is different from a firepick how? ;) | 18:06 |
kanzure | firepick is smt/smd only | 18:08 |
kanzure | NEXT QUESTION | 18:09 |
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frege | http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1755-5949.2010.00218.x/pdf | 18:39 |
frege | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1755-5949.2010.00218.x/pdf | 18:40 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/d70210fa9a98a30fdc7b20ffe8856d91.txt | 18:40 |
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kanzure | paperbot: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/234117220_Transcranial_Magnetic_and_Electric_Stimulation_in_Perception_and_Cognition_Research/file/9fcfd50fb958edd3db.pdf | 19:00 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/2812960ac88f5e3f3edb23f013495964.pdf | 19:00 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/232705956_Electrical_stimulation_of_human_fusiform_face-selective_regions_distorts_face_perception/file/79e41509810e539dd4.pdf | 19:01 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/86da1ff7b31ef264f9a323257a9febad.pdf | 19:01 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811913005752 | 19:03 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/6d48b5c2760d5a1994f978f93c23d0e9.txt | 19:03 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1053811913005752/pdfft?md5=b7c7a66e4eb63c4eb1d44ab08aaf0438&pid=1-s2.0-S1053811913005752-main.pdf | 19:03 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b6ce9783a008e1b6eb8baf6341dcd7d2.pdf | 19:04 |
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kanzure | "When EBS was applied through FG electrodes 1 and 2 while looking at the examiner's face, the usbject described the striking nature of his visual distortion: "You just turned into somebody else. Your face metamorphosed." When probed further, he reported that features appeared distorted: "You almost look like somebody I've seen before, but somebody different. That was a trip.. It's almost like the shape of your face, your features drooped"" | 19:06 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1525505012007779/pdfft?md5=f0af6059893457fb8ac4a9a6baee1bb0&pid=1-s2.0-S1525505012007779-main.pdf | 19:09 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a38bafdfd38ca571cdfc0b421c2abb34.pdf | 19:09 |
kanzure | "There is a clear gothic architecture in 3D" | 19:15 |
kanzure | "I see female genitals" | 19:16 |
kanzure | "I hear music, I am still hearing music" | 19:16 |
entelechios | which paper is that from | 19:19 |
kanzure | previous | 19:19 |
lichen | this reads like lsd research | 19:21 |
kanzure | brain stimulation | 19:21 |
entelechios | magnetic brain stim | 19:21 |
lichen | quite interesting | 19:21 |
entelechios | yea i was ctrl+f'ing things and it wasnt working for some reason thanks tho | 19:22 |
kanzure | lichen: then you might enjoy http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/664a7fef7c56221148ab75759d29f431.pdf | 19:22 |
lichen | thx | 19:22 |
kanzure | "In this review, we summarize the subjective experiential phenomena and behavioral changes | 19:22 |
lichen | will read when i have time | 19:22 |
kanzure | that are caused by electrical stimulation of the cerebral cortex or subcortical nuclei in awake | 19:22 |
kanzure | and conscious human subjects." | 19:22 |
lichen | frontiers has a lot of good articles | 19:22 |
entelechios | it was documented in 'through the wormhole' by morgan freeman | 19:23 |
kanzure | what was | 19:29 |
entelechios | Comparable proportions of classes of experiences and intracerebral consequences for surgical stimulation and external application of weak magnetic | 19:30 |
entelechios | fi | 19:30 |
entelechios | eld patterns: | 19:30 |
entelechios | Implications for converging effects in complex partial seizures | 19:30 |
entelechios | damn pdf copypaste crap | 19:30 |
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AshleyWaffle | http://www.reddit.com/r/libertarianmeme/comments/1qqzsy/but_who_will_build_the_roads/ | 23:40 |
entelechios | hahahaha | 23:42 |
kanzure | no reddit please | 23:48 |
entelechios | i'm glad i never got into reddit at all. it always seemed like a black hole of mediocrity and triteness to me | 23:49 |
kanzure | i don't care | 23:50 |
entelechios | once in a while you'll see something or other from it and it's just another link on the internet but | 23:50 |
entelechios | how the hell do people get hooked on that shit | 23:50 |
kanzure | whether you have a positive or negative opinion on it doesn't really matter to my previous statement | 23:50 |
entelechios | i don't care about you not caring? | 23:51 |
kanzure | okay, but you care about expressing your opinion about reddit? how about you express your opinion about reddit.. on reddit, instead? | 23:51 |
entelechios | bring something else up if it bugs you that much | 23:51 |
entelechios | you're part of the continuum here | 23:51 |
kanzure | statements of positioning about reddit are just really unproductive | 23:51 |
kanzure | if you can show otherwise i'd be happy to hear | 23:52 |
entelechios | no i can only agree | 23:52 |
entelechios | but you started it | 23:52 |
kanzure | the linker started it :( | 23:52 |
entelechios | again, just another link on the internet | 23:52 |
entelechios | hate feeds the things you hate | 23:52 |
entelechios | there's more optimal conditions of perspective in terms of influential power than condescending nerdrage | 23:53 |
kanzure | you just suck at reading if you think i'm condenscending | 23:54 |
entelechios | you just told me i suck and then declared as if you're not being condescending | 23:54 |
entelechios | trust me dude | 23:54 |
entelechios | not convincing | 23:54 |
kanzure | yes i posited there that you might actually be wrong | 23:54 |
kanzure | i know it's not polite to suggest that you're wrong, but i'm not aiming for politeness, i'm aiming to suggest that i'm not condenscending | 23:54 |
kanzure | btw i didn't say you completely suck, just at reading | 23:55 |
entelechios | condescending -> talking down on | 23:55 |
entelechios | trust me | 23:55 |
entelechios | doesn't work to convince people otherwise | 23:55 |
entelechios | it does the opposite | 23:55 |
kanzure | trust you about what? | 23:56 |
kanzure | yes i'm aware of the definition of condenscending | 23:56 |
entelechios | about me calling your persuasive strategy throughout this entire conversation on being ineffectual to the ends you seem to be after | 23:56 |
entelechios | you don't have enough of a sense of humour about it | 23:56 |
kanzure | i'm not making jokes | 23:56 |
entelechios | of course not | 23:57 |
kanzure | telling people not to post links to reddit is not condenscending nerdrage | 23:57 |
kanzure | going by the definitions you just agreed to | 23:57 |
entelechios | let's post this conversation on reddit and see what they think for a lark | 23:57 |
kanzure | why would you want to do that? i don't understand. | 23:58 |
kanzure | or why would that matter? | 23:58 |
entelechios | again just a cheap laugh. i'm not in a position where i've got time to waste on that | 23:58 |
kanzure | you are a highly perplexing person.. | 23:59 |
entelechios | i get told that a lot | 23:59 |
entelechios | glad i made you think | 23:59 |
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