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| @archels | "Even still yet another embodiment of the present invention includes a method of [blah blah blah]" | 05:03 |
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| @archels | "Still even yet another embodiment of the present invention includes a method of [blah blah blah]" | 05:04 |
| @archels | nice patent description | 05:04 |
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| kanzure | oh, i didn't know markram had an autistic kid https://medium.com/matter/70c3d64ff221 | 10:08 |
| kanzure | i thought his interest in it was because whole brain emulation reasons | 10:09 |
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| ParahSailin | paperbot: http://www.sciencemag.org/content/342/6165/1502.full | 10:50 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Unexpected%20Stable%20Stoichiometries%20of%20Sodium%20Chlorides.pdf | 10:50 |
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| delinquentme | Do we actually have a way to test that the pdf scrubber works? | 13:33 |
| kanzure | there are unit tests | 13:33 |
| kanzure | and multiple copies of the same pdf from different access methods | 13:33 |
| justanotheruser | Merry Christmas! ho ho ho | 13:33 |
| kanzure | once the watermark is removed the hash of the two pdfs are the same | 13:33 |
| kanzure | so far i have not found an example of a pdf that has a different hash from one access method against another (once the watermark was removed) | 13:33 |
| kanzure | however, i'm sure it's entirely plausible | 13:33 |
| kanzure | especially since there are often metadata stamps such as when the pdf was modified by the server | 13:34 |
| delinquentme | what the hell? the hashes are the same?? | 13:43 |
| delinquentme | Hows that even possible? I thought hashes were generated from the entirety of a piece of code?? | 13:44 |
| kanzure | if the bytes in a file are exactly the same then the hash is going to be the same | 13:45 |
| kanzure | unless it's a stupid non-deterministic hash, in which case it's mostly worthless anyway | 13:45 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, it seems that if something was edited in the file... then the bytes wouldn't be the same ... and yeah like you said worthless if thats the case | 14:42 |
| delinquentme | whos our chemist in here? | 14:42 |
| kanzure | the only modifications made to pdfs are just the watermarks. so removing the watermarks means that the files become the same. | 14:42 |
| kanzure | this sameness is confirmed by checking the md5 hash | 14:43 |
| kanzure | because it's highly unlikely for the paper to be a md5 collision | 14:43 |
| delinquentme | I've been told that there are cellular compounds which yield pretty consistently ATP precursors > ATP I was told convert quite uniformly | 14:43 |
| kanzure | drazak is the closest to a chemistry goon in here | 14:43 |
| delinquentme | Which makes me curious: At what level of cellular biochemistry, do things become more complex as to not make these compounds as consistently | 14:43 |
| delinquentme | I know we've got all kinds of variations in protein folding ... so say sticking a single cell in a minturized bioreactor such as http://marblar.com/technology/US8133722 | 14:44 |
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| delinquentme | would be a really interesting way to start testing the variance | 14:44 |
| delinquentme | additionally... what about selecting a really simple compound .. say even something like lactic acid ... and just grow a bunch of these cells in the uni-cellular reactors | 14:47 |
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| delinquentme | I guess nobody else sees these single cell reactors as that interesting? | 15:04 |
| nsh | what kinda reactors? | 15:04 |
| delinquentme | nsh, they're single cell reactors with morphological and fluidic input controls | 15:05 |
| nsh | for what kind of reactions? | 15:05 |
| nsh | , cells? | 15:05 |
| delinquentme | they're supposed to provide inputs for individual cells | 15:07 |
| delinquentme | http://marblar.com/technology/US8133722 | 15:07 |
| nsh | oh, i see | 15:13 |
| delinquentme | http://marblar.com/technology/US7948564 | 15:14 |
| delinquentme | this is cool too ... they're using LCDs to replace photolithographic masks to make micro-scale features | 15:15 |
| delinquentme | would be really cool for making ECM in a bioreactor ... using some kind of biocompatible photopolymer | 15:15 |
| delinquentme | but that usefulness would be kind of hinging upon the resolution of typical printers | 15:16 |
| * nsh nods | 15:21 | |
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| delinquentme | More gene therapy http://www.nanowerk.com/news2/biotech/newsid=33721.php#at_pco=tcb-1.0&at_tot=7&at_ab=-&at_pos=4 | 17:10 |
| FourFire | Has anyone in here read _Red Mars_ ? | 17:11 |
| FourFire | Kim Stanley Robinson | 17:11 |
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| superkuh | Yes. | 17:21 |
| FourFire | superkuh, so do you think the treatment they come up with is plausible in reality? | 17:25 |
| FourFire | or something which worked similarly | 17:25 |
| FourFire | within the same timeframe, mind | 17:25 |
| superkuh | Plausible enough I can suspend my disbelief to enjoy the story, sure. | 17:26 |
| FourFire | no, but I mean, do you think it's possible to make their treatment in reality | 17:28 |
| FourFire | within their same timeframe | 17:28 |
| superkuh | I don't think it is useful to think about that. | 17:30 |
| superkuh | It is a fictional story for recreation. | 17:30 |
| superkuh | There's no insight there. | 17:30 |
| FourFire | of course not, but there are potential goals which we might strive towards | 17:32 |
| FourFire | all technology was at some point science fiction | 17:32 |
| FourFire | possibly even fire | 17:32 |
| FourFire | and as far as scifi comes, The Mars Trilogy is quite Hard | 17:32 |
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| delinquentme | So I've got this nagging feeling | 18:46 |
| delinquentme | that something about crawling wikipedia is the secret to suggestion for novel experiments | 18:46 |
| delinquentme | http://www.itechpost.com/articles/11786/20131117/accidental-discovery-dramatically-improves-electrical-conductivity.htm | 18:47 |
| delinquentme | things like this ... just make me think that we've got so much we're blatantly overlooking | 18:48 |
| juri_ | honestly, i think you'd do better just reading the papers in paperbots directory, and trying to duplicate results. | 18:50 |
| ParahSailin | maybe stop saying random things and learning stuff would be a first step | 18:50 |
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| delinquentme | ParahSailin, I like how you went from a lab lackey to a shit talker so quickly | 18:51 |
| delinquentme | thanks for your positive contributing advice! | 18:51 |
| ParahSailin | always here to help | 18:52 |
| delinquentme | go back to sucking dicks and let me know when you're ready to | 18:52 |
| delinquentme | IDK be productive ... or at least present ja? | 18:52 |
| delinquentme | *big thumbs up* | 18:52 |
| delinquentme | Hey thanks man ! So yeah as I was saying. We've clearly got all of these behaviors present in this soup we're in. | 18:53 |
| ParahSailin | soup? | 18:56 |
| delinquentme | To begin linking them... to where we could query something like " imaging at X scale " ... would return not technique matches ... but instead something like collective particle excitations, and other phenomena which are dominant at that scale | 18:57 |
| delinquentme | soup yeah. Like this bath of photons, EM, particles and energy we're in | 18:57 |
| delinquentme | " environment " | 18:57 |
| delinquentme | IDK the seed of the idea is that if we can actively use a human brain to connect the disparate phenomena to make something like a hyperlense | 18:58 |
| delinquentme | or this thing where conductivity was boosted by 400x simply by connecting these concepts | 18:59 |
| delinquentme | blah concepts = behaviors / phenomena | 19:00 |
| delinquentme | Like INDIVIDUALLY these are all established particle physics... someone just needed to come along and lego them together and viola ... new imaging technique | 19:01 |
| gradstudentbot | Man, if only I could biopsy his organs. | 19:02 |
| juri_ | gradstudentbot: i agree. | 19:02 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, I read the paper, I just don't remember the details. | 19:02 |
| FourFire | delinquentme, there is surely loads of low hanging scientific fruit for automated AI tasks | 19:04 |
| FourFire | and data comparison for large datasets | 19:04 |
| ParahSailin | so meta | 19:08 |
| delinquentme | ParahSailin, what do you do again? | 19:23 |
| delinquentme | I mean core skillset? | 19:23 |
| delinquentme | You're a quantum physicist in ultracold particle physics right? | 19:23 |
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| delinquentme | 'solid pharmaceutical' anyone? | 21:08 |
| kanzure | his core skills are in molecular biology wetlab antics (inc. SENS work) and haskell (apparently) | 21:18 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 21:45 |
| kanzure | hi | 21:58 |
| justanotheruser | kanzure: do you contribute code to bitcoin or a related project, or do you just like listening? | 22:35 |
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| kanzure | i write lots of software that does stuff but i haven't submitted a patch to bitcoin.git | 22:40 |
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| justanotheruser | kanzure: you have the greenest github account I've ever seen | 22:41 |
| kanzure | i've fixed obscure leveldb issues in forks, if that counts.. | 22:41 |
| kanzure | yes, well, drugs do wonderful things for the soul | 22:41 |
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| delinquentme | A prevalent but incorrect belief is that solid form is determined primarily by choice of crystallization solvent. In fact, it is well established that parameters like temperature, supersaturation level, rate of concentration or cooling, seeding, and ripening can have an overriding effect. These variables must be controlled to ensure consistency of solid form in API. | 22:53 |
| delinquentme | I have no idea what ripening in this context even means | 22:54 |
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