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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 06:45 |
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| nsh | that's a pretty controversial viewpoint to go bandying about so liberally | 06:46 |
| JayDugger | I'll defend my claim against all comers. | 06:47 |
| JayDugger | One at a time, or all at once, whichever. | 06:47 |
| * nsh smiles | 06:48 | |
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| FourFire | JayDugger, it's objectively morning in your particular timezone, and surrounding timezones, which are a minority, so if you take the average | 07:44 |
| FourFire | it's not morning | 07:44 |
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| @archels | "The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways; the point is to change it." | 09:58 |
| @archels | (Karl Marx) | 09:58 |
| @archels | relation to H+? you be the judge | 09:58 |
| kanzure | uh, and? | 09:59 |
| kanzure | philosophers changed the world at least by writing things down. is that not changing the world-state? | 09:59 |
| @archels | it reminded me of http://diyhpl.us/wiki/declaration/ | 10:02 |
| gradstudentbot | Oh great, my paper got accepted with no revisions. Nice. | 10:04 |
| entelechios | philosophers did loads to change the world in many cases | 10:08 |
| kanzure | yawn this conversation is going to get very boring | 10:08 |
| kanzure | "philosophers can't change the world because they don't exist!" | 10:09 |
| entelechios | only due to your trite nerdraging condescension | 10:09 |
| kanzure | is the only possible contra-argument. which is a nonsense argument. | 10:09 |
| kanzure | it's not condescension | 10:09 |
| gradstudentbot | Should have gone to med school. | 10:09 |
| entelechios | then quit yawning and rollin your eyes around as if you're the only one who knows better | 10:09 |
| kanzure | i'm genuinely open to alternatives but i think you're wrong (philosophers, by existing, are manipulating state) | 10:09 |
| kanzure | well, the tihng is that i /know/ archels knows betters | 10:10 |
| kanzure | he's a clever cookie cutter | 10:10 |
| kanzure | *thing | 10:10 |
| entelechios | karl marx kinda screwed it up too | 10:11 |
| kanzure | *better | 10:12 |
| entelechios | the point is to change it but if you don't go putting enough thought into it while also listening to what others have to think about things, then, well, it's disaster course | 10:12 |
| kanzure | "the point" of archel's quote? | 10:12 |
| entelechios | to stimulate conversation i'd think | 10:12 |
| kanzure | what? | 10:12 |
| kanzure | i am just asking what you meant when you said "the point is to change" | 10:12 |
| entelechios | oh sorry | 10:13 |
| kanzure | and i was saking if "the point" was referring to his quote | 10:13 |
| entelechios | well, yeah, i don't think many philosophers go around sharing their ideas without the idea in mind to have their ideas influence the world somehow | 10:13 |
| kanzure | i don't think it was to stimulate conversation, because he knows about the no philosophy rule, unless he's trolling me, which he has almost never done | 10:13 |
| entelechios | there's an anti-sophistry rule in here? nice | 10:13 |
| entelechios | i actually like that | 10:14 |
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| gradstudentbot | Who's timer is going off? | 10:16 |
| yashgaroth | damnit gradstudentbot fix yo gramma | 10:17 |
| gradstudentbot | You can't guarantee that. | 10:17 |
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| pasky | "my paper got accepted with no revisions" - does that *ever* happen? :) | 10:46 |
| kanzure | he's magical | 10:46 |
| kanzure | powered by the hopes and dreams of phd students from all over the world | 10:46 |
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| eudoxia | kanzure: so other than a mention of its name, what triggers gradstudentbot? | 10:50 |
| gradstudentbot | I don't think my PI remembers me. | 10:50 |
| kanzure | he sometimes decides to speak up on his own | 10:51 |
| eudoxia | is it random? or is it more likely to happen when others are talking? | 10:51 |
| eudoxia | because i notice sometimes during a conversation he sends a phrase or two, like just now | 10:52 |
| kanzure | it is random but constrained to when there's channel activity | 10:52 |
| kanzure | because if there's 8 hours where nobody is talking i don't want to see 200 messages from gradstudentbot | 10:53 |
| gradstudentbot | I'm working on a paper, I need to be left alone. | 10:53 |
| eudoxia | ah, i see then | 10:53 |
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| justanotheruser | gradstudentbot: say something funny | 11:51 |
| gradstudentbot | The smell of e.coli is so very rewarding. | 11:51 |
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| nsh | not as rewarding as the taste of lab ethanol and dr. pepper | 12:06 |
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| drewbug | paperbot, http://www.nature.com/nprot/journal/v6/n9/pdf/nprot.2011.371.pdf%3FWT.ec_id%3DNPROT-201109 | 14:57 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7f3f798eb89e887e40f399fd6ab4d0a1.txt | 14:58 |
| drewbug | paperbot, http://www.nature.com/nprot/journal/v6/n9/pdf/nprot.2011.371.pdf | 15:00 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/39d1a2efa300ab03ed61e507955393d3.txt | 15:00 |
| drewbug | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21886108 | 15:03 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnprot.2011.371 | 15:03 |
| drewbug | Muhahaha. | 15:03 |
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| delinquentme | drewbot, what are you checking out? | 15:59 |
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| nsh | *drewbug | 16:10 |
| nsh | oh, they went | 16:10 |
| kanzure | how rude | 16:11 |
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| juri_ | i really think i'd grow an iq point just reading all the articles pulled via paperbot. | 16:57 |
| kanzure | you will grow a third eye | 17:00 |
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