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| kanzure | paperbot: http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.7128 | 08:46 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Searching%20the%20Internet%20for%20evidence%20of%20time%20travelers.pdf | 08:46 |
| kanzure | fenn: we're on to you | 08:46 |
| chris_99 | i love how they cite back to the future in it | 08:47 |
| kanzure | satoshi nakamoto is an alien from the future that has traveled back to test whether or not humans are ready for more advanced forms of finance | 08:50 |
| chris_99 | haha | 08:50 |
| eudoxia | maybe he's an upload that traveled back in time to create bitcoin and finance defenses for a future human/upload war | 08:51 |
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| kanzure | eudoxia: maybe, but it doesn't explain hal finney. | 08:57 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.0xbadc0de.be/archives/155 "In 2007 already, Dan Shumow and Niels Ferguson from Microsoft showed that Dual_EC_DRBG algorithm could be backdoored. Twitter also uncovered recently that this algorithm was even patented in 2004 by Dan Brown (Not the Da Vinci guy, the Certicom one) as a “key escrow mechanism” (government jargon/lingo for trapdoor/backdoor). I will go a little bit further in explaining how it works and give a ... | 09:37 |
| kanzure | ... proof-of-concept code, based on OpenSSL FIPS. This is in the best of my knowledge the only public proof of concept published today. (correct me if I’m wrong)." | 09:37 |
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| heath | ideas for diybio meetups? | 10:06 |
| kanzure | equipment teardowns | 10:06 |
| heath | sequencers, synthesizers, what else? | 10:07 |
| kanzure | chromatography machine stuff | 10:07 |
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| kanzure | centrifuges. | 10:08 |
| kanzure | incubators. autoclaves. shakers. you have a bunch of options.. | 10:08 |
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| heath | http://www.hach.com/hq40d-portable-ph-conductivity-optical-dissolved-oxygen-do-orp-and-ise-multi-parameter-meter/product?id=7640501639&callback=bc | 10:09 |
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| heath | you can get one of these for $90, it would be interesting to figure out its internals | 10:09 |
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| heath | thanks for the idea kanzure | 10:11 |
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| chris_99 | i got a do sensor actually, don't spose you know anything about using in liquids other than water | 10:22 |
| heath | cool, have you used it yet? | 10:23 |
| heath | my only experience is using it on a nearby creek | 10:24 |
| ParahSailin | pretty sure DO sensors are electrochemical | 10:24 |
| ParahSailin | so using it in nonelectrolytes and electrolytes other than water would probably be broken | 10:24 |
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| chris_99 | ParahSailin, yeah | 10:49 |
| chris_99 | that is what i was thinking | 10:49 |
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| chris_99 | heath, i've not used it properly yet, as i was intending to use it in unfermented beer | 10:50 |
| chris_99 | but i guess it's not possible | 10:50 |
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| kanzure | http://binwalk.org/ "Binwalk is a firmware analysis tool designed for analyzing, reverse engineering and extracting data contained in firmware images. Written in Python, it is fully scriptable and easily extendable via custom signatures and plugins." | 11:51 |
| kanzure | wtf http://binwalk.org/3d-data-visualizations/ | 11:52 |
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| nmz787 | jrayhawk: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Biomarkers_of_gluten_sensitivity_in_patients_with_non-affective_psychosis_A_meta-analysis.pdf | 12:06 |
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| kanzure | http://linkedin.com/in/carlforce "undercover Agent who established and cultivated 17-month covert relationship with Dread Pirate Roberts; Extensive knowledge of Bitcoin digital currency, the underground internet on the TOR network, and data encryption and decryption computer programs" | 13:16 |
| kanzure | hmmm | 13:16 |
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| jrayhawk | nmz787: oh, thank you | 13:36 |
| FourFire | Hello | 13:36 |
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| bkero | :( | 13:42 |
| bkero | poppingtonic is gone and I'm in nairobi | 13:42 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/poppingtonic | 13:46 |
| kanzure | i saw him active in a git repo a few days ago | 13:46 |
| kanzure | maybe he got sacked for transcribing from 30c3 | 13:46 |
| kanzure | 2 hours ago on twitter too https://twitter.com/negamuhia | 13:47 |
| bkero | wait | 13:55 |
| bkero | poppingtonic was at 30c3 too? | 13:55 |
| bkero | I must have missed him there too. Damn it. | 13:56 |
| kanzure | nah i think he was probably listening to audio or a video | 13:56 |
| kanzure | emotiv/emokit question if anyone wants to take a stab at it.. https://github.com/openyou/emokit/issues/98 | 14:04 |
| kanzure | to be honest i've never actually used it after i did some initial work on it, sooo | 14:04 |
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| kanzure | 3d mid-air acoustic manipulation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odJxJRAxdFU | 14:42 |
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| ParahSailin | http://news.php.net/php.internals/70691 | 14:44 |
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| delinquentme | paperbot, http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/LC/2013/c3lc50227a#!divAbstract | 15:09 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Skin%20and%20hair%20on-a-chip%3A%20in%20vitro%20skin%20models%20versus%20ex%20vivo%20tissue%20maintenance%20with%20dynamic%20perfusion.pdf | 15:09 |
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| nmz787 | huh, this guy needs to chat with Anselm http://ds9a.nl/amazing-dna/ | 16:13 |
| heath | nmz787: how's the synthesis work coming along? | 16:17 |
| nmz787 | just got the spin-coater in working order a few nights ago | 16:22 |
| chris_99 | nmz787, are you making a synthesizer? | 16:23 |
| nmz787 | yes, it's a long process! | 16:24 |
| nmz787 | doing many things at once | 16:24 |
| chris_99 | nice, do you have any writeups for that? | 16:24 |
| nmz787 | no, not really | 16:25 |
| nmz787 | bits and pieces scattered | 16:25 |
| nmz787 | on here and diybio mailing lists | 16:25 |
| nmz787 | working on a 3-point kinematic mount now (like a hexapod manipulator but with only 3 legs) | 16:26 |
| nmz787 | for focusing a projection surface to be co-planar with a projected image | 16:26 |
| nmz787 | i've also been sourcing components to build a vacuum spin-coater | 16:26 |
| nmz787 | so a microfluidics production system kit is likely to come out of this before a synthesizer | 16:27 |
| gradstudentbot | I'll be at the microscope. | 16:27 |
| chris_99 | what's a kinematic mount in laymans terms? | 16:27 |
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| nmz787 | triangle with a screw on each angle, motors on bottom and some ball joints | 16:29 |
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| nmz787 | move any motor and that angle raises/lowers | 16:29 |
| nmz787 | s/angle/corner/ | 16:29 |
| chris_99 | what's it for? | 16:30 |
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| nmz787 | focusing the silicon wafer with photoresist on it with the digital photomask i'm beaming onto it with a projector | 16:42 |
| nmz787 | luckily most of the chemistry research has been done, so once i can fab channels and get liquids pumping around, I can order reagents and start trying to make DNA | 16:43 |
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| chris_99 | what's the mask for? | 16:54 |
| kanzure | mask lithography, because he's been talking about it for a while | 17:09 |
| kanzure | but also, masked lithography because it's obvious from the things he just wrote | 17:09 |
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| chris_99 | but what's the mask for i mean | 17:11 |
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| ParahSailin | dna synthesizer | 17:14 |
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| kanzure | breaking out of kvm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVSVdudfF8Q | 17:28 |
| kanzure | http://www.vupen.com/blog/20120904.Advanced_Exploitation_of_Xen_Sysret_VM_Escape_CVE-2012-0217.php | 17:28 |
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| JayDugger | Good evening, everyone. | 18:46 |
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| katsmeow-afk | drat | 19:36 |
| kanzure | ? | 19:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | i was hoping heath/ybit or fenn was awake | 19:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | or i could ask you, in pm, preferrably, as if you remember me | 19:37 |
| katsmeow-afk | please? | 19:38 |
| katsmeow-afk | :-/ | 19:39 |
| katsmeow-afk | well, wth, i'll ask in channel then : is there a way to get some 2,9,10-trimethoxy-13-methyl-5,6-dihydroisoquinolino[2,1-b]isoquinolin-7-ium-3-ol ? | 19:40 |
| katsmeow-afk | references : http://www.chemindustry.com/chemicals/025806430.html http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2813%2901494-2?script=true | 19:40 |
| kanzure | i don't understand what this has to do with whether or not i remember you (and yes i do) | 19:42 |
| katsmeow-afk | i preferred asking select individuals | 19:43 |
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| katsmeow-afk | i have a legit reason for wanting the material, and any data for it | 19:44 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2813%2901494-2 | 19:44 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.cub.2013.11.039 | 19:44 |
| katsmeow-afk | Firefox can't find the file at http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016/j.cub.2013.11.039. | 19:45 |
| nmz787 | whoo 80MSPS ADC on a 204MHz microcontroller http://www.nxp.com/products/microcontrollers/cortex_m4/LPC4370FET256.html | 19:52 |
| nmz787 | katsmeow-afk: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/A_Novel_Analgesic_Isolated_from_a_Traditional_Chinese_Medicine.pdf | 19:54 |
| gradstudentbot | You used the wrong formula. | 19:54 |
| katsmeow-afk | i have seen all that google has to offer, like that pdf | 19:55 |
| nmz787 | ? | 19:55 |
| nmz787 | that's the one you just requested | 19:55 |
| katsmeow-afk | oh | 19:55 |
| katsmeow-afk | strange, it's a pdf of a webpage i already read | 19:55 |
| katsmeow-afk | in fact, it was the first webpage that got me started trying to find more on it | 19:56 |
| nmz787 | ahh, I guess kanzure confused me by requesting it with paperbot | 19:56 |
| katsmeow-afk | http://www.chemindustry.com/chemicals/025806430.html lists several synonyms | 19:57 |
| nmz787 | katsmeow-afk: can't you just go to chinatown? | 19:57 |
| katsmeow-afk | and the chemical has beenknown for a century: http://books.google.com/books?id=X0DOAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA260&lpg=PA260&dq=dehydrocorybulbine&source=bl&ots=ua9x9EZp8L&sig=cs8Ff9uk-zD2Gaw-C_JOF0kY6hA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wivGUujoN8PksASB84L4DA&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=dehydrocorybulbine&f=false | 19:57 |
| katsmeow-afk | i have no chinatown here | 19:57 |
| nmz787 | well that link you just sent shows several manufacturers | 19:58 |
| nmz787 | 5G for $53 | 19:58 |
| nmz787 | 25G for $188 | 19:58 |
| katsmeow-afk | who? i see no data on their pages, it's,,,, umm, like it's javascript ......... grrr | 19:59 |
| katsmeow-afk | what's 10-UNDECYN-1-OL ? | 20:00 |
| katsmeow-afk | that's not what i asked for | 20:00 |
| nmz787 | yeah, that's confusing | 20:00 |
| katsmeow-afk | loking up chemicals can be like looking up electronics parts, they tell you they have data but the page is a search engine on their site | 20:01 |
| gradstudentbot | I am busy researching. | 20:01 |
| nmz787 | yeah, I see that | 20:01 |
| nmz787 | this similar one has a CAS number 65615-07-8 | 20:04 |
| nmz787 | you might try finding manufacturers of that, then see if they have the one you want | 20:04 |
| katsmeow-afk | hell, i got closer with ebay : http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313&_nkw=yanhusuo&_sacat=0&_from=R40 | 20:04 |
| nmz787 | you could also mention that article since they might have to modify their process if they aren't already making it | 20:05 |
| nmz787 | well yeah that's your e-chinatown | 20:05 |
| katsmeow-afk | Item location: | 20:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | Catskill, New York, United States | 20:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | ah, lots more hits : https://www.google.com/search?q=CORYDALIS+YANHUSUO | 20:08 |
| nmz787 | katsmeow-afk: that paper i posted mentions their synthesis route | 20:12 |
| * katsmeow-afk is not a chemist | 20:12 | |
| nmz787 | right, that's why you'd send those instructions (or the whole paper) to a manufacturer of a similar molecule (or the starting reagent they used) | 20:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | isn't there tons of upfront costs associated with that? | 20:13 |
| nmz787 | there are likely several contract fine-chemical manufacturers looking for the next 'hot' molecule that people will want | 20:13 |
| nmz787 | so you'd need to do some sales pitch type work, finding and convincing a company, but this is their business | 20:14 |
| katsmeow-afk | i am the wrong person for that | 20:15 |
| nmz787 | the research chemical industry needs to work quickly between discovery of a new function and/or syntheis route and governments regulating the chem | 20:15 |
| nmz787 | so you giving them a lead would be helpful | 20:15 |
| katsmeow-afk | the chemical has been known since prior to 1904, when it appeared in publication | 20:16 |
| katsmeow-afk | the Chinese used the plant for centuries | 20:16 |
| nmz787 | note that you likely wouldn't receive pharma-grade chems, they could be good-enough, but without the right certifications you won't know | 20:16 |
| nmz787 | the paper mentions synthesis routes have been unknown prior to that publication | 20:16 |
| katsmeow-afk | "here is the chemical you askedfor, in a fine lead powder, notto be taken internally" | 20:17 |
| nmz787 | that or a number of other metals and weird organics | 20:18 |
| nmz787 | hah the tail-flick assay | 20:18 |
| nmz787 | i saw that in GMO pain-reduced mouse paper I read recently | 20:18 |
| katsmeow-afk | it's real common for docs to stick pins into humans for the same reason | 20:19 |
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| katsmeow-afk | drug/pharma companies and docs have left me with real bad feelings, i just want to buy the stuff and back away quietly | 20:21 |
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