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| kanzure | i am having trouble keeping track of all the various colored coin implementations and random-ass markets | 10:12 |
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| kanzure | bitmarket http://bittext.ch/8wApvESl6y | 10:12 |
| kanzure | bitshares http://static.squarespace.com/static/51df1ba4e4b08840dcfce197/t/5212ca63e4b0348bfd2276c6/1376963171729/BitShares%20White%20Paper%20(2).pdf | 10:12 |
| katsmeow-afk | Lawyers for West have filed cease-and-desist papers against the developers of Coinye West, a digital currency that bears his likeness and used to essentially use his name. | 10:14 |
| kanzure | yeah so they premined to raise funds to hire a lawyer.. | 10:14 |
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| kanzure | which is like digging an even deeper grave for yourself | 10:15 |
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| delinquentme | Anyone in here make a sterile / dust filtering glove box? | 11:21 |
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| phillyj | paperbot | 12:48 |
| phillyj | hmm how does this paperbot work again? | 12:48 |
| juri_ | well. | 12:48 |
| phillyj | do i just put the link | 12:49 |
| phillyj | ? | 12:49 |
| phillyj | http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/01/03/1318176111 | 12:49 |
| juri_ | you put the link, and call paperbot's name. | 12:49 |
| kanzure | poorly | 12:50 |
| kanzure | yes | 12:50 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2014/01/03/1318176111 | 12:50 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Earliest%20evidence%20for%20caries%20and%20exploitation%20of%20starchy%20plant%20foods%20in%20Pleistocene%20hunter-gatherers%20from%20Morocco.pdf | 12:50 |
| juri_ | see? easy enough. ;) | 12:50 |
| phillyj | ah ic | 12:50 |
| gradstudentbot | I think I'll be done in 2 years. | 12:50 |
| ThomasEgi | back to work gradstudentbot | 12:51 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, it should take me about 2 days. | 12:51 |
| chris_99 | haha | 12:53 |
| phillyj | "journalists" are already extrapolating from the PNAS paper on acorn diet that nuts cause tooth decay | 12:53 |
| juri_ | thank you for using quotes. | 12:54 |
| chris_99 | ThomasEgi, have you ever played with ultrasound transducers? i need to make an amp for one, and am wondering about making just a simple class a | 12:54 |
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| phillyj | poor hygiene in the olden days can't be compared with today's advances | 12:56 |
| ThomasEgi | i once played with piezos, which could produce frequencies above 20khz but i never really used them at those frequencies. | 12:56 |
| chris_99 | aha, this is 2MHz | 12:56 |
| ThomasEgi | chris_99, what output power is required? | 12:56 |
| chris_99 | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2MHz-ultrasonic-transducer-for-flow-meter/672485300.html is all i've got regarding electronic specifics at the moment | 12:57 |
| chris_99 | that says 200V @ duty cycle 2% | 12:57 |
| chris_99 | would a full duty cycle signal therefore mean 4V | 12:59 |
| ThomasEgi | a voltage isn't exactly the same thing as a power requirement. driving a 200V output requires a bit analog circuitry. | 13:00 |
| chris_99 | no, but it mentions 60 ohm too | 13:00 |
| chris_99 | would that mean 0.27W | 13:02 |
| chris_99 | @ full duty | 13:02 |
| ThomasEgi | anyway. at 200V it's probably not so smart to use a class A amp | 13:02 |
| ThomasEgi | simply because you have to drop 100V over a resistor on average. | 13:03 |
| chris_99 | isn't full duty 4V | 13:03 |
| ThomasEgi | nope. | 13:03 |
| chris_99 | why not | 13:04 |
| ThomasEgi | because physics. | 13:04 |
| jrayhawk | phillyj: don't know if you care, but this paper is overly enamoured with the oral flora hypothesis and disregards contemporaneous fat soluable vitamin intake from animal foods | 13:04 |
| jrayhawk | which is not doing it any favors | 13:05 |
| phillyj | hmm, ic | 13:05 |
| ThomasEgi | chris_99, with only 4 V you'd get a maximum of 2% of the desired output power. independently from the duty cycle | 13:05 |
| ThomasEgi | chris_99, what waveform do you need to generate? a smooth sine? or is some washed-out pulse form totaly acceptable? | 13:06 |
| chris_99 | i'm planning on generating a sine | 13:06 |
| chris_99 | i've ordered an ADC for that | 13:07 |
| chris_99 | *DAC | 13:07 |
| chris_99 | that does only say max. working voltage though mind, not recommended | 13:08 |
| jrayhawk | The shift from retinol to carotenoids, from Mk4 to Mk7 and K1, and from migrancy to fixed residency for D3 is probably more significant. | 13:08 |
| jrayhawk | And from free minerals in meat to phytate-bound minerals in plants. | 13:09 |
| jrayhawk | That phytate thing is a legitimate potential source of problems with nuts. | 13:09 |
| ThomasEgi | chris_99, for like up to 36V you may be able to get away with a rather simple amp based on an OP-amp, for higher power you may require a power stage made from a transistor pair. for higher voltages you need a bit more analog circuit magic. | 13:11 |
| chris_99 | mm, i'm hoping i can get away with class a, i don't want to have to need to do anything too fancy | 13:11 |
| ThomasEgi | class A and higher operating voltages or output power are a pretty poor match | 13:12 |
| jrayhawk | The classic ethnogenic argument against starch-induced cariogenesis is the Kitava and Tokelau, who ate around 70 | 13:13 |
| jrayhawk | % of calories from carbs without any endemic health problems to speak of. | 13:13 |
| chris_99 | class B, ThomasEgi? | 13:14 |
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| ThomasEgi | chris_99, class B would be a lot better than A, but has it's issues when the switching between the transistors as it outputs the signal. | 13:15 |
| ThomasEgi | AB would be best. | 13:15 |
| chris_99 | yeah crossover distortion | 13:15 |
| ThomasEgi | class B would be acceptable if you stick with low enough voltage to use an opamp for driving the output transistors | 13:16 |
| ThomasEgi | so you can have an additional resistor to bridge the output of the amp stage to the output of the op amp. so you get at least the op-amp output during the transition | 13:17 |
| chris_99 | aha | 13:17 |
| chris_99 | this is to try an measure specific gravity btw, my attempt at using a load cell failed | 13:18 |
| ThomasEgi | there are many good reads about amp design. just dive into it. | 13:18 |
| chris_99 | mm i'll have a looky, i just hope they can work at 2MHz | 13:19 |
| ThomasEgi | you may need to apply some tricks when working bipolar transistors | 13:19 |
| ThomasEgi | the collector-base capacity can ruin your frequency response if you stick with the classical designs | 13:19 |
| ThomasEgi | but there are techniques to work around that | 13:20 |
| chris_99 | i guess a signal sweep generator | 13:20 |
| chris_99 | would be useful | 13:20 |
| ThomasEgi | signal generator in general would be useful | 13:22 |
| chris_99 | mm | 13:22 |
| ThomasEgi | a scope would be even more useful | 13:23 |
| chris_99 | yeah i've got a scope, but no sig gen | 13:23 |
| ThomasEgi | you do have an arduino i guess? | 13:24 |
| chris_99 | PICs but i need to use an FPGA for this | 13:24 |
| chris_99 | as i'm gonna have to process a 100Msps 16bit ADC | 13:25 |
| chris_99 | in realtime | 13:25 |
| ThomasEgi | i pic can't output bytes to its ports at somethin like 20MHz? | 13:25 |
| ThomasEgi | *a pic | 13:26 |
| chris_99 | yeah it can, the FPGA is for the ADC | 13:27 |
| gradstudentbot | I don't know what to tell you, I thought I would have graduated by now. | 13:27 |
| ThomasEgi | chris_99, then you can use the pic as very crude DAC to generate signal waveforms. with a couple of resistors. | 13:28 |
| chris_99 | mm | 13:28 |
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| chris_99 | im planning to use a nice 14bit DAC though, as i want as clean a wave as i can cheaply get | 13:29 |
| chris_99 | as i need to collect pulse reflections | 13:29 |
| gradstudentbot | I remember the paper, I just don't remember the details. | 13:29 |
| ThomasEgi | chris_99, in that case you also want a pretty good driver for your transducer. which means you'll definetly have to look into a good amp design. | 13:30 |
| chris_99 | mm thats true | 13:30 |
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| delinquentme | is there a really smart way to search the interwebs for specific file types ... specifically those which aren't represented by the typical google-searchable extensions | 13:57 |
| delinquentme | ? | 13:57 |
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| chris_99 | what kind of filetypee | 14:01 |
| jrayhawk | Nope. inurl: is your best bet. | 14:01 |
| chris_99 | *type | 14:01 |
| kanzure | no you want filetype: | 14:01 |
| katsmeow-afk | 16bits is 1:65536 error (0.000015) | 14:02 |
| jrayhawk | does filetype actually behave differently than inurl? | 14:02 |
| jrayhawk | e.g. comprehension of Content-type or Content-disposition? | 14:02 |
| kanzure | not completely sure | 14:03 |
| chris_99 | katsmeow-afk? | 14:03 |
| jrayhawk | oh, i guess it narrows things down to "what we've successfully parsed of this type" | 14:03 |
| jrayhawk | that's actually pretty useful | 14:03 |
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| katsmeow-afk | chris? | 14:05 |
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| chris_99 | i mean what was that 16 bit thing in relation too | 14:06 |
| katsmeow-afk | the stuff about making a dac of resistors, and picking class A vs B vs AB etc amps | 14:07 |
| chris_99 | yeah so what do you mean? | 14:07 |
| chris_99 | oh yeah i'm not making a dac from resistors | 14:07 |
| delinquentme | .stl files on google chris_99 kanzure | 14:07 |
| chris_99 | i'm using a 14 bit dac | 14:07 |
| katsmeow-afk | with a 1v input signal to the 100Msps adc, the lsb is +/- 0.000015v , you have a very small range of opamps at that precision and speed | 14:07 |
| chris_99 | i'm taking the output directly from the transducer hopefully to the adc | 14:08 |
| chris_99 | and using it's inbuilt PGA | 14:08 |
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| katsmeow-afk | k | 14:09 |
| delinquentme | http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:13032 | 14:09 |
| delinquentme | super simple hand actuated peristaltic-esque pump | 14:10 |
| chris_99 | heh interesting | 14:10 |
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| delinquentme | SO yeah I need some way to plow through google scholar to find research which actually have associated microfluidic devices | 14:39 |
| delinquentme | suggestions? | 14:39 |
| delinquentme | http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=microfluidics+%2B%22.stl%22+%2B+%22%5BSTL%5D%22+%2B+%22%5Bstl%5D%22&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C39 | 14:40 |
| delinquentme | I might actually have to write a crawler ... and I'd rather notttttt | 14:40 |
| delinquentme | paperbot, http://pubs.rsc.org/en/Content/ArticleLanding/2012/LC/c2lc21204h#!divAbstract | 14:47 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Commercialization%20of%20microfluidic%20point-of-care%20diagnostic%20devices.pdf | 14:47 |
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| heath | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18927397 | 18:31 |
| paperbot | ConnectionError: [Errno 111] Connection refused (file "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/requests/models.py", line 625, in send) | 18:31 |
| heath | ruh roh | 18:32 |
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| heath | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v7/n2/full/nnano.2011.217.html | 20:29 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnnano.2011.217 | 20:29 |
| heath | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18927397 | 20:30 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.1160311 | 20:30 |
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| nmz787 | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/978-94-017-2264-3_133 | 21:13 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bbff576c0c7bf7202db58953750656a2.txt | 21:13 |
| katsmeow-afk | the only non-garbage on that page is the description of what the article is about, article not included | 21:17 |
| katsmeow-afk | 113 words | 21:18 |
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| nmz787 | yea | 21:24 |
| kanzure | oh please, fucking fix it instead of complaining | 21:24 |
| kanzure | debugging output is way better than no output at all | 21:24 |
| nmz787 | the server truly doesn't have access | 21:24 |
| ParahSailin | or put a bounty on fixing it | 21:24 |
| nmz787 | there's incentive | 21:25 |
| kanzure | bounties are stupid why not just pay a developer | 21:25 |
| nmz787 | same same, but different | 21:25 |
| nmz787 | http://rlv.zcache.com/same_same_but_different_t_shirt-ra5bb80fc1615447ba83456a3ec1f92f3_vj7yg_512.jpg | 21:25 |
| kanzure | but really, why are people so pissed off that this completely voluntary service dumps debugging info | 21:26 |
| nmz787 | who's pissed? | 21:26 |
| kanzure | katsmeow-afk left after complaining about the garbage, and a similar complaint was filed yesterday for similar reasons | 21:26 |
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| Lemminkainen | paperbot http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/v9/n1/full/nnano.2013.253.html | 22:54 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnnano.2013.253 | 22:54 |
| Lemminkainen | sexy | 22:56 |
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| dantespeaks | have you guys ever found that being fixed on a certain location gives you better advantage in education? say in programming, you choose hackerspaces, and this could elevate your pace or - has it always been that an internet connection and a pc was all that you required? | 23:24 |
| dantespeaks | i just answered my own question yet again nevermind. | 23:25 |
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