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| drewbug | Lemminkainen: Hey, my laptop's battery's going to die soon, but I wanted to say thank you. I'm legitimately considering this now, but even if I never do it, I learned a lot. So, thank you. | 00:00 |
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| jrayhawk | you should make a "can i make my cat glow" FAQ | 01:44 |
| jrayhawk | such a thing would be of distressingly high utility in this room | 01:45 |
| blueskin | haha | 01:52 |
| FourFire | "distressingly high utility" | 02:00 |
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| pasky | https://plus.google.com/116220678599902155344/posts/RzWppAJgQdz | 07:02 |
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| @archels | http://turingbirds.com/temp/IMAG0618.jpg | 07:22 |
| @archels | spotted this in the hallway just now | 07:23 |
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| @kanzure | oh good you can heckle anders sandberg for me | 07:58 |
| @kanzure | "boo, when are you building a moon brain" | 07:58 |
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| @kanzure | archels: have you read http://www.jetpress.org/volume5/Brains2.pdf | 09:10 |
| @kanzure | (the physics of information processing superobjects, anders sandberg etc) | 09:11 |
| @archels | no, I found that googling for 'moon brain' though | 09:17 |
| @archels | I should probably read it. | 09:17 |
| @archels | (instead I added Neverness to my wishlist) | 09:17 |
| @kanzure | good call | 09:17 |
| @kanzure | archels: http://heybryan.org/docs/Zindell,%20David%20-%20Neverness%20(v1.0).txt | 09:18 |
| @archels | what does v1.0 refer to? | 09:19 |
| @kanzure | whoever typed it up originally | 09:19 |
| @kanzure | i dunno | 09:19 |
| @kanzure | people used to type up books manually | 09:19 |
| @kanzure | and then they would put version numbers on it (i dunno why.. who would verify a version number?) | 09:20 |
| @archels | ah. poor souls | 09:20 |
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| @archels | yeah okay like spelling Franz Kafka as Franz Kalka | 09:22 |
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| @kanzure | some of the misspellings are intentional and appear in the original book | 09:25 |
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| @archels | interesting | 09:26 |
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| @kanzure | i assume it was some literary attempt at pretending that information was lost and Newton is now called Newtton | 09:27 |
| justanotheruser | Is there any public database containing full sequences of human DNA? | 09:28 |
| @kanzure | 1000genomes | 09:28 |
| @kanzure | that dump on s3 | 09:28 |
| @kanzure | that dump on ncbi | 09:28 |
| @kanzure | etc | 09:28 |
| justanotheruser | kanzure: any with medical records/physical attributes? | 09:29 |
| @kanzure | that's "personal genome project" | 09:29 |
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| justanotheruser | kanzure: cool thanks | 09:31 |
| justanotheruser | I'm guessing there has been a lot of datamining done on this DB? | 09:32 |
| @kanzure | i don't even know what you're asking | 09:32 |
| @kanzure | "have people loaded this data and looked at it" | 09:32 |
| @kanzure | "to a greater degree than people normally looking at data" or something? | 09:33 |
| justanotheruser | kanzure: have people used computers to create statistical models to predict things such as likelyhood of cancer, hair color, etc. | 09:51 |
| justanotheruser | based on a given DNA sequence | 09:51 |
| @kanzure | uh, yes | 09:53 |
| @kanzure | look at single nucleotide polymorphism | 09:53 |
| justanotheruser | Hmm. Are there sequences that people know the exact purpose of then? | 09:57 |
| justanotheruser | Or is it all just guesses based on the fact that many people with <attribute> have <DNA sequence> | 09:57 |
| @kanzure | there's both | 09:59 |
| @kanzure | you can physically observe the construction of a protein from a sequence of mRNA | 09:59 |
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| justanotheruser | interesting. | 10:01 |
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| @kanzure | various methods of freezing a ribosome and other related shit | 10:06 |
| @ParahSailin | justanotheruser: short reads arcchive on ncbi | 10:17 |
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| @kanzure | someone should deploy drones to quantify the number of bazaar/marketplace-transactions in developing countries | 12:01 |
| @kanzure | you could probably monitor for whenever money is changing hands and publish data about that | 12:01 |
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| drewbug | Could we use gene modifications to cure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cystic_fibrosis | 13:32 |
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| drewbug | By "we", I just mean "people not involved in the medical establishment" | 13:33 |
| pasky | "the medical establishment"? | 13:33 |
| pasky | I think you'll need to get over the same hurdles as the medical establishment, at least per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cystic_fibrosis#Gene_therapy | 13:37 |
| @kanzure | pasky: hah | 13:42 |
| @kanzure | pasky: you mean we are subjected to the same reality? how inconsiderate. | 13:42 |
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| drewbug | Sorry, I just mean, when you're not bound by rules of law. | 13:48 |
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| pasky | drewbug: i don't think there are many laws the medical establishment is limited by that you'd want to break (specifically, if something needs to go through non-human trials first, you probably want it to go through non-human trials first too, unless you don't care about causalities during cure testing; if you have a basement full of test subjects, scratch what i just wrote and good luck) | 14:10 |
| @kanzure | actually i think there's a lot of paperwork involved at the FDA for conducting the later stages of clinical trials | 14:15 |
| @kanzure | unrelated to an actually useful clinical trial | 14:15 |
| @kanzure | by paperwork i mean something else | 14:16 |
| @kanzure | it would be worthwhile to know the specific things.. | 14:16 |
| drewbug | Thank you both. | 14:31 |
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