2014-01-30.log

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kanzurebbleep bloop08:42
kanzurebeep stuttering. not cool..08:43
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gradstudentbotWhich calculator do you need? I have a TI-83 and a TI-84.08:44
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@ParahSailinin javascript, you are not allowed to take the event from one event handler and re-use that event object in a dispatchEvent?09:09
@ParahSailinoh right, i guess with the bubbling up of events, that would be really bad09:12
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kanzurehow do you like ripping your eyes out?09:40
nsh paperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4020-6268-1_1610:00
nshpaperbot: http://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007%2F978-1-4020-6268-1_1610:00
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c993cf83890cd4de2ca55a6294264fd1.txt10:00
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kanzuresomeone has written a ruby gem for brlcad,10:42
kanzurehttp://www.roantrail.com/tovero/tovero.rb10:42
kanzurehttp://www.roantrail.com/tovero/10:42
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delinquentmepaperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X0300532213:17
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/362deaa299d9f69f3ba8dd8089f1a9bc.txt13:18
delinquentmepaperbot, http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0264410X0300532213:18
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4f94fe2c4f1c06ec4740960c64e88e81.txt13:18
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@heathanyone interested in buying my old desktop?16:02
@heathhttps://gist.github.com/heath/872273116:02
@heathI'm guessing it's worht about $30016:02
@heathprobably more, but i'm not so sure16:03
kanzurewow my laptop has more ram than that16:03
@heathjeebs16:04
@heathi've only got 16gb on my lappy16:04
kanzurei am mostly joking, my laptop is unreasonable16:05
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drewbug Anyone in San Francisco here? :)16:36
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kanzurethere's a few of them16:45
kanzurebrownies saurik delinquentme(?) juul(?)16:46
kanzurei think we're missing a few regulars16:46
sauriksaurik is in santa barbara16:47
kanzureapologies16:48
kanzuresaurik: i hope the mudslinging has died down since the recent jailbreaking dustup?16:49
saurikthat only lasted a day or two16:52
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drewbugGotcha.16:58
drewbugWell, I'm in the area for the first time, and I was wondering if anyone was interested in hanging out.16:59
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@heathi'll toss in my old b570 lappy as well and the gaming mouse + mousepad, any takers? :)17:07
@heathk, i'm out for a big17:09
@heathbit*17:09
drewbugheath: What are you talking about?17:10
@heathhttps://gist.github.com/heath/872273117:10
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@ParahSailini just got a steelcase leap chair17:29
kanzureleap?17:44
accoladestupid question:  What's biohacking?  (Or should I just effing google it? ;p )17:45
kanzurepretty much the same thing as hacking in anything else except it usually tends to refer to molecular biology arts rather than bird watching etc17:47
accolade"arts"?  Also, I didn't know there was hacking in bird watching haha … ;)17:48
accoladecare to give an example?  I can only think of nootropics17:48
kanzurearts.. like a field is an art17:48
accoladeoh wait, and then there's this cyborg stuff17:48
kanzurethere is not "hacking in bird watching" as far as i know- except there's often clever hacks to catch birds with cameras i guess; i don't mean to pick on bird watching17:49
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq/17:49
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ruphosmodifying $organism to produce something they don't normally, do things they don't normally, etc17:50
accoladethanks kanzure17:50
accolade*reading*17:50
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accoladeok, I think I'm getting the picture17:50
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accoladealso like this glowing plant from kickstarter17:51
accolademade with a gene gun I think17:51
kanzurewhat about it.17:51
accoladeI would think it falls under biohacking17:51
accoladeprobably that term DIYbio sums it up well17:52
accolade("hacking" had sounded somewhat more specific to me - rather directed at a specific purpose - like human improvement)17:53
ruphosyup, although a bit of a boring implementation17:53
ruphossome of it is, but not all17:53
accoladehow is a glowing plant poring :p17:53
kanzurehuman improvement is usually termed transhumanism17:53
accolade*boring17:54
kanzurei don't think buying a glowing plant would be considered hacking, just like buying a normal plant isn't considered hacking17:54
ruphosthe amount of luminescence is extremely low17:55
accoladenah, but making it17:55
curt1skanzure: have you written any essays on why not to go to school and what to do as an alternative17:55
accoladeor maybe making use of that gene gun thing.  I think you could write an arbitrary text into its DNA17:55
kanzurecurt1s: no, but jrayhawk often has links handy that are compelling17:55
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accoladebut that's not exactly DIY17:55
accoladebut seems hacky to me :)17:56
accoladeidk17:56
kanzureaccolade: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bio/ knock yourself out17:56
accoladewall of pdf titles :o)17:57
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accoladeruphos, do you have one?17:58
accoladeglowing plant17:58
ruphosno, they haven't even made it yet17:58
accoladebut you read they are not very light?17:58
accoladehey another newb question - what's the "roadmap" in the channel name about?18:00
kanzurea set of projects18:00
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/wiki/declaration/18:00
ruphosaccolade: the amount of expression you get + the amount of light emitted + the amount of material it has to glow through do not make for a very glowy plant18:01
accoladeI see (I guess)18:02
ruphosI mean, if you turn all the lights out and do a long exposure you could probably get a pretty cool photo18:02
accoladehmh, yeah :)18:02
ruphosplants are not really my thing though18:02
ruphosbecause boring18:02
accoladegotcha18:03
dantespeaksdamn if only i could just work at home or something18:06
dantespeaksi got no time to study and i really want to delve into my studies at this point.18:06
accoladeso you're loosing to much time commuting?18:07
curt1scommuting is a huge waste of time18:13
curt1sif youre traveling to sit in front of a computer18:13
curt1sno reason you cant stay home to do the same18:14
dantespeaksno not communting, spending time earning money.18:14
dantespeaksi really envy those hollywood assholes. spending their time on drugs and drag racing.18:15
dantespeaks*money18:15
kanzureuh..18:15
dantespeaksif i had it secure - i wouldn't spend it that way18:16
ruphosI'm in hollywood and I have neither drag racing nor drugs :(18:16
dantespeaksactors/actresses some of them......18:16
curt1sheh18:16
curt1si lived in hollywood for a bit18:16
curt1si had plenty of drugs but no racing18:16
dantespeaksjustin bieber just came back to toronto turned himself in for assault.18:17
curt1si hope he experiences some consequences18:17
curt1sfor the first time in his life18:17
curt1snot that i care about him personally but this is a common problem18:17
curt1saffluenza or whatever you want to call it18:17
ruphoss/affluenz/being a little bitch/18:18
kanzurewho are you people and why are you talking about these things18:18
ruphosbecause murica, boss18:18
dantespeakswrong channel to speak about these things, sorry.18:18
kanzurehuh?18:19
dantespeakslooks like i have to get a loan from the government and get into school.18:19
dantespeaksi f*kin hate school18:19
dantespeaksi want to study alone.18:20
dantespeaksbut without the loan, you gotta get a job. and that is the dilemma.18:20
curt1swell dantespeaks i work fulltime and also go to school18:21
curt1sit fucking sucks18:21
curt1smy idiot professors tell me to take out loans18:21
curt1sall i can think is18:21
curt1sgo fuck yourself18:21
curt1sprivileged assholes18:21
kanzurehow does the ability to take out a loan make them privileged?18:22
dantespeaksi cant possibly do that, work fulltime & go to school at the same time. what a determination18:22
curt1skanzure: not the ability to take out a loan. im sure i have that ability. pretty sure anyway.18:23
kanzureso...?18:23
kanzuresorry, i'm just not understanding18:23
curt1stheir privilege goes way beyond that18:23
dantespeaksim thinking of copying health ingredients - put them in a bottle and sell them. if it's herbal, it's legal.18:23
dantespeaksspam the heck out of the net....18:23
gradstudentbotYeah, but his PI wrote his dissertation.18:23
curt1skanzure: it's that other people are invisible to such privileged fucks18:24
curt1sthe fact that i have to work18:24
curt1sis like18:24
curt1sforeign to them18:24
kanzurehas it occurred to you that he is also working?18:24
curt1sof course they are18:24
dantespeaksah wishful thinking sigh...18:25
Lemminkainendantespeaks supplement insurance is not cheap18:25
Lemminkainenif you're going to distribute in any meaningful volume, you'll need it18:25
dantespeaksyeah i figure something like that, unless i take a significant risk i cant start it.18:25
Lemminkainenfrom what I've heard of people engaged in such things, raw ingredients are fine to sell18:26
Lemminkainenprocessed health stuff is more complicated18:26
dantespeaksprocessed is highly priced though. raw ingredients dont make much money. it's the idea people buy.18:27
dantespeaksthe idea of processed supplement doing x and y etc.18:27
Lemminkainenwell is your raw ingredient rare or can you make a novel claim with it?18:27
dantespeaksno, not that rare at all. all herbal.18:27
Lemminkainensome herbs are rare18:28
Lemminkainenfor example, I can't just go buy powdered bacopa easily18:28
accoladegradstudentbot, what's a PI?18:28
gradstudentbotSomeone stole my pipette.18:28
dantespeaksim thinking in more like seaweed extracts. something easily acquired.18:28
kanzurea PI is a private investigator18:28
LemminkainenPrinciple Investigator usually18:29
kanzurewow why did i say private18:29
kanzureit's obvious principle18:29
kanzure*obviously18:29
Lemminkainenyour lurking paranoia is leaking, kanzure18:29
accoladethanks18:29
dantespeakshahaha18:29
accoladehaha18:29
accoladeWilhelm says hello18:29
Lemminkainenhallo Wilhelm18:29
LemminkainenI don't know who Wilhelm is18:29
accolades/Wilhelm/Siegmund18:29
accolademy bad18:30
Lemminkainenes gibt's viele Wilhelmen und Siegmunden18:30
accoladefürwahr18:30
dantespeaksi wonder if you build a foundation in seychelles for diplomatic immunity, and say you did something REAL bad overseas, and there's a reasonable doubt that you didnt do it,18:30
Lemminkainenist dieser Siegmund jemand besonders, der wir kennenlernen sollen?18:30
accoladeactually, not that many Siegmunds anymore.  The name is out of fashion18:30
dantespeaksand i wonder if seychelles will still extradit you18:31
accoladeyeah, kanzure made a Freudian error - "Siegmund Freud", Lemminkainen18:31
Lemminkainenbut a Freudian error would be sexual18:31
accoladesorry for the crypticism -.-18:31
Lemminkainenlike when you mean to say one thing but mean your mother18:31
accoladeoh, sure?18:31
Lemminkainen*another18:31
dantespeaksim currently watching the movie "se7ven"18:31
accoladehahaha18:31
accoladenice one18:32
accoladepretty epic! :D18:32
curt1sgood movie18:32
Lemminkainendantespeaks on the Seychelles thing, you could look into their corpus of case law on the issue18:32
accolade^ @ Lemminkainen's mother18:32
dantespeaksLemmin: what does that do?18:32
dantespeaksoh ok18:32
dantespeakssorry havent slept in a while18:32
accoladeLemminkainen, I thought the Freudian was more general, but I'll look it up now18:32
dantespeaksyeah, i wouldn't bother to look at it, it's not like i'd be commiting something18:33
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Lemminkainendantespeaks it'll give you a good indication of whether they'd extradite you18:33
Lemminkainennot a guarantee, though18:33
dantespeakscool18:33
dantespeaksbut i did think, that, since Seychelles "claims" to provide diplomatic immunity for a "mere" 10 mil,18:34
accoladeLemminkainen, no it doesn't have to be sexual: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freudian_slip18:34
Lemminkainenoh, my bad18:34
dantespeaksit would be greatest place to set up a foundation for evil geniuses. lol18:34
Lemminkainendepends on what you're doing18:34
Lemminkainenplaces like Costa Rica or Israel are actually fairly permissive about clinical trial set ups18:35
kanzure~!.18:36
kanzurei wonder why ssh transmitted the ~. sequence18:36
kanzureoh nevermind. extra character.18:36
accoladedantespeaks, how would working at home give you more time to study?18:40
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dantespeakswell, besides the laboured hours spending on the work itself, it would still give me a piece of mind not to think about all that crap between people.18:40
dantespeakssocial stuff really just annoys me.18:40
accolade"[02:09:45] curt1s: no reason you cant stay home to do the same"   <-  I guess that depends.  Personally I am not like dantespeaks - I need a environment to work in to thrive.  Otherwise I'm easily distracted and unmotivated18:41
accoladedantespeaks, ah, I see18:41
dantespeaksso it's more of a declaration of freedom rather than actual hours spent on labour.18:41
Lemminkainen*decoration of freedom18:41
dantespeaksyes sorry18:41
Lemminkainennot actual freedom, but a fashionable bent to claiming more18:41
dantespeaksindeeeed18:42
accoladetough, one hears that modern working is more and more interconnected18:42
accoladedantespeaks, nevertheless, I'm sure you can find something to get paid for from home18:42
dantespeaksUSA seems to be offering mechanical turk program for amazon--- wouldn't that be nice. lol18:42
accoladecoding, webdesign, consultation - maybe even on the topics you're passionate about?18:42
Lemminkainenavoid Mech Turk unless you want to make average $4/hr18:43
accoladehehe, it might be, but it's miserably paid I think.  But there's e-Lancing websites18:43
accoladestill, you'd be competing with 3rd wold countries(' wages)18:43
dantespeaksi dont think i have the required skill to perform the tasks they need.18:43
Lemminkainenyep, you go on Odesk or Elance and you're bidding against teams of developers in the Philippines and Sri Lanka18:43
dantespeaksso im screwed. im good at spamming though somewhat.18:44
dantespeaksall i need is a product of my own.18:44
accoladewhat a dark art18:44
Lemminkainensounds like you have a promising career in growth hacking18:44
dantespeaksand im sure i can make it convert. scale.18:44
Lemminkainenjoin one of those "food replacement" startups and sell, sell, sell18:44
dantespeaksyes. it's an unfornate thing i learned...18:44
Lemminkainenand look into Pfizer's Sales Bootcamp to learn the patterns18:44
dantespeaksunfortunate18:44
dantespeaks*18:45
dantespeaksi know all about sales process, market research, keyword research and all that jazz but it really comes down to implementing, copywriting, and more importantly, your product.18:45
dantespeaksi mean i could technically spam with affiliate products,18:45
Lemminkainenoh ho you do now?18:46
dantespeaksbut everyone removes the cookies before they purchase.18:46
dantespeaksLemmin: i think so :P18:46
Lemminkainenhow would you sell lemons to a thirsty man?18:46
dantespeaksbut i will check into your reference ty18:47
dantespeakswhere is the lemonade stand?18:47
accoladeheh, interesting questions18:47
accolade-s18:47
Lemminkainenthe lemonade stand is in Barrow18:47
Lemminkainenin January18:47
dantespeakswhere is barrow?18:47
LemminkainenAlaska18:47
dantespeaksi have no idea. i just know internet related stuff.18:48
dantespeaksoffline advertising... well, there's many ways.18:48
dantespeakslol18:48
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accolademaybe you could be a consultant for startups to peddle their offers online18:49
accoladeor any organizations, anyway18:50
dantespeaksthey always want something proved before being consulted. i need a certificate of some kind.18:50
accoladecan you get one?18:50
dantespeaksi think i can barely pass18:50
dantespeaksif i were to take it. yeah i guess thats a good idea18:50
dantespeaksonce thats done, i could consult i guess online. cheap or not.18:51
dantespeakshey thanks...18:51
dantespeakskeep thinking in terms of product creation though18:51
dantespeaksbeen reading this book hackers and painters.18:51
dantespeakssays wealth could be something you build - obviously.18:51
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dantespeaksso i wonder if i grab a CNC machine of somekind go in the middle of the Rocky mountains of BC, and start cutting stones. into bricks and slabs.18:52
dantespeakswill the stones than become a currency? can it go into trade?18:52
dantespeaksyes :P18:53
dantespeakswill advertising skills help in these sense. sure.18:53
dantespeaksso i guess been thinking in terms of business, but i gotta understand my reality.18:53
dantespeaksi hate working with people, so i dont want a job, and this stuff costs money and procedures.18:53
dantespeaksso im screwed. heh18:54
Lemminkainenno certificate18:54
Lemminkainenbuild a strong portfolio of marketing successes where you've measured your ROI in $18:54
dantespeaksexactly, thats even harder!18:55
Lemminkainenif you can prove a 3X increase in sales volume on your strategies, then you can pretty much demand any hourly rate you want18:55
Lemminkaineneven harder?18:55
Lemminkainenno18:55
Lemminkainenactually easier18:55
dantespeaksthats what they want to see, but if i can do that, why would i be consulting for money in the first place. lol18:55
Lemminkainenbecause it's cheaper than sitting around bitching18:55
dantespeaksah. right. ill stop bitchin and bickering18:55
dantespeaksu r right.18:55
dantespeaksthis convo went on too long. nvm.18:56
Lemminkainendoing is always cheaper than bitching18:56
Lemminkainenand boredom is a choice18:56
dantespeakswise wise. hahaha18:56
dantespeaksany idea how to sell guns?18:56
dantespeaksor gun designs  i mean18:57
Lemminkainenbe in the USA, first of all18:57
cpopelldantespeaks: a few months ago I would have paid you commission to find me clients18:57
dantespeaksguess Canada dont give a damn about firearms.18:57
dantespeakscpopell: and you got nothing now?18:58
Lemminkainencpopell is an exotic data dancer18:58
cpopelldantespeaks: hibernating company and going back to work atm.18:58
dantespeaksoh18:58
dantespeakswow, what a awesome term "data dancer"18:58
cpopellthat's not what I am, or was, but it is what I might be!18:59
dantespeaksi guess thats how i play as well18:59
dantespeakswell, you'll be needing it over and over again.18:59
Lemminkainenit's how I viewed what you were doing, cpopell18:59
dantespeakspower is in organization of data and it's exertion19:00
Lemminkainengyrating tech forecasts19:00
dantespeakscool19:00
dantespeaksbut ultimately, i think the fastest way is to just raise money for an idea19:02
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dantespeaksor a product of your creation or something19:02
dantespeakshey, thats not so bad of an idea i think i'll do that19:02
dantespeaksany ideas what i should do?19:02
dantespeakswrite a children's novel?19:02
dantespeaksi mean book?19:02
dantespeaksgraphic?19:02
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Lemminkainenlol that raising money for an idea is easy or fast19:03
@ParahSailinkanzure: what chair do you use?19:03
kanzuredantespeaks: http://goo.gl/u2O7tl19:03
gradstudentbotWe were out of the right dye, so I just used an equivalent.19:04
kanzureParahSailin: i don't know the name of what i'm sitting on19:05
kanzureParahSailin: all i know is that i regret not writing down the name of the greatest chair i once owned19:05
LemminkainenI'm sitting on a zafu19:05
gradstudentbotOh a sales rep? No, I'm not busy, sure I have time to talk.19:05
dantespeakswuw they had guns at that age19:05
Lemminkainenhighly recommended19:05
dantespeakswhat do you guys do for fitness? im growing overweight here lost my abs long ago19:06
Lemminkainensquat19:06
dantespeaksi guess thats one option. on the account of my vertigo, i dont think i can do that but...19:06
dantespeaksi think i'll just walk outside for an hour or something.19:07
dantespeakskanzure: it's an interesting history19:07
Lemminkainensquat & go for a walk19:07
Lemminkainenput at least 100lb on your shoulders and sit down, then get back up19:08
gradstudentbotHey, does anyone have an extra undergrad?19:08
kanzureyour browser fringerprint matches the other user i banned can you plz just leave for good19:08
dantespeaks100lbs? wuw19:09
dantespeakswhat the are you speaking to me19:10
dantespeaksi have no idea you never banned me but ill leave thats just fine.19:11
dantespeaks"browser fingerprint" im not even using my pc. so whose fingerprint are you matching cool19:12
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curt1slol browser fingerprint19:20
dantespeaksthis is like the 3rd time im picked on by kanzure19:21
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dantespeaksi dont even care anymore all i did was try to stay on topic19:21
curt1saw19:23
curt1skanzure has had this shitty attitude for at least the past few years ive idled in here, probably longer19:23
kanzurecurt1s: what if i'm right about him?19:24
kanzurecurt1s: you haven't even asked to see my evidence19:24
curt1sno one cares and it's not clear what your problem is19:24
kanzureif you knew who this guy is you would care19:25
curt1sthen let's hear it19:25
dantespeakswho is the guy and why would anyone care about him?19:25
kanzurei am just not interested in putting up with his shit19:25
kanzurehe keeps coming back year after year19:25
kanzurebritish columbia, affiliate marketing, yadda yadda19:25
kanzurekeeps beliving i can revive his mother from the dead19:25
curt1syou have to realize kanzure your behavior is consistently antisocial and paranoid19:25
dantespeakswtf19:25
curt1sthis sounds like crazy talk19:25
curt1sim sorry you feel this way but no one sees what you see19:26
kanzurepm19:27
dantespeakssomeone believes you can revive a mother from the dead?!19:28
kanzurefuck now he is pming me19:30
kanzurei was talking to curt1s19:30
kanzuredantespeaks: do not pm me19:30
dantespeaksok19:30
dantespeakswuw this paranoia is alarming. im out of here.19:31
dantespeaksbut i dont understand how you would think this person is thinking about YOU when he's coming here. if he is, he's probably tagging along to learn something off the channel.19:31
dantespeakslike this is something really self-centered.19:32
dantespeaksegocentric reasoning.19:32
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curt1sokay dantespeaks19:33
curt1stime to return your tray table to its upright and locked position19:33
curt1sgrab your shit and exit the vehicle19:33
dantespeaksi have no idea what that means.19:33
curt1sdo you understand "gtfo"19:34
dantespeaksjesus what the heck did i do to deserve this19:34
curt1sbecause it is time19:34
dantespeaksno no im leaving no problem with that19:34
accoladethat's not a reason19:34
dantespeaksbut i have no clue what this prejudice is about19:35
accoladefrom an outside perspective it seems like you got infected by kanzure, haha ;)19:35
curt1sheh don't worry accolade19:35
dantespeaksi dont give a damn about kanzure19:35
curt1skanzure is right19:35
dantespeaksthis place really analyze data in such a way that it gives a person chance to uplift themselves using computing.19:36
accoladecurt1s, it's funny though that you asked kanzure about reasons, but now you don't give any yourself either19:36
curt1soh19:36
@kanzurei provided evidence19:36
curt1si got reasons19:36
curt1s:)19:36
dantespeakskanzure, can you share to me the evidence as well?19:36
accoladekanzure, privately to curt1s?  Because I didn't see any19:36
dantespeaksim leaving any way, but i'd like to know what this is about.19:36
justanotheruserwait, dantespeaks has been asking kanzure to bring his mother back from the dead?19:37
curt1slol19:37
dantespeaksWHAT THE FUCK19:37
curt1swacky shit19:37
dantespeaksthats insane!19:37
accoladeI'm also /kind of/ curious.  But moreso my sense of judgment is tickled a bit here19:37
accolades/judgment/fairness19:37
justanotheruserI'm looking back at my logs and kanzure seems to love to hate him, but doesn't kick him for some reason19:37
justanotheruser(08:52:34 PM) kanzure: this is not acceptable behavior http://pastebin.com/1w1rbY9219:37
accoladethis was not a fair trial! :D19:37
dantespeakskanzure, can i have permission to pm you to end this once and for all?19:38
justanotheruserI have a feeling this wont end this once and for all19:39
dantespeaksscrew it, ill let you know what im thinking.19:39
accoladehahaha, that log is hilariously weird19:41
justanotheruserdantespeaks: have you even been diagnosed with a mental/psychological disorder?19:42
justanotheruserI thought you were just a really dedicated troll for a while.19:42
accoladesorry if I'm kind of feeding the troll right there (o:19:42
dantespeaksNope, im not insane sorry. but I do joke around a lot. :P19:42
curt1syou're out of your gourd19:43
curt1sidgaf if you think you're joking19:43
Lemminkainenfrom those logs, there is mention of the "transhumanist agenda"19:43
LemminkainenI wasn't aware we'd drafted such an agenda19:43
accoladeLemminkainen, maybe this: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/declaration/19:43
justanotheruserheh19:44
Lemminkainenthat's a definition more than an agenda19:44
LemminkainenI'd be happy to host a Futurological Congress on the condition that the attendees not be sober19:44
accolademaybe he means an implied agenda19:44
accoladeheh19:44
accoladeI'll happily take part19:44
accoladeare psychoactives offered on site or BYO? ;)19:45
LemminkainenI cannot comment on that in public19:45
dantespeaksok ive sent kanzure pm's.19:45
accoladeunderstood19:45
dantespeaksthat's the truth i have, and sent it.19:45
curt1sdantespeaks: you should probably stop sending kanzure any messages19:46
curt1syou've done enough19:46
Lemminkainenhowever, such lovelies as DHEA, racetams, and L-theanines would be available19:46
accolade:)19:46
dantespeaksi can understand why kanzure have these views about me, he did have spoken to me during the times i was highly vulnerable. this doesn't mean it's about him.19:46
curt1soh boy19:46
curt1shere we go19:46
dantespeakscurt1s: agreed. looks like "i've done enough"19:47
dantespeakswow, i didnt expect something like this. what hostility.19:47
curt1syou have indeed19:47
gradstudentbotCan I borrow some sulphuric acid?19:47
justanotherusergradstudentbot: no19:47
gradstudentbotThat result wasn't repeatable.19:47
curt1sit's not so much hostility as patience19:48
curt1syou are being given the opportunity to leave voluntarily19:48
accoladekanzure, curt1s:  how about another chance?  He seemed by all means reasonable today19:48
curt1sbut if you keep this up you will certainly be booted19:48
justanotherusercurt1s: I kindof doubt that19:48
curt1swell, it's not up to me19:48
curt1sbut if it were,19:48
@kanzureit is hard to boot people because then people like curt1s claim i am paranoid and full of shit19:48
dantespeakshey, i can't be around a channel where the host thinks 1. i'm stalking him. 2. i have psychotic intentions thinking he can revive "my mother."19:48
curt1si would have b& ages ago19:48
curt1skanzure: i didn't know the history, obviously. once you told me i understood 100%19:49
accoladeand he just implied that he has changed state since earlier digressions19:49
Lemminkainenkanzure if it makes you feel better I think everyone is full of shit, not just you19:49
dantespeaks3. yeah i joked around a little too much with abandon just because i thought i'd keep myself anonymous. but some things were obviously out of the line, and kanzure seems very alarmed.19:49
accoladehehe19:49
justanotheruserdid dantespeaks ever claim kanzure could revive his mother?19:49
dantespeaksno way19:49
@kanzureLemminkainen: it does19:50
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accoladewhy won't kanzure revive dantespeaks' mother? :(  That seems mean19:50
dantespeaksduring the times that i lost my mom (yeah im coming out clean here)19:50
dantespeaksi was in a hectic mode, i was panicking and going crazy19:50
accoladedantespeaks, oops, sorry I joked about that v_v19:50
dantespeaksso i was like searching for answers however i can19:50
Lemminkainenwe're not wizards19:50
dantespeaksand by no means in hell, do i think kanzure, or ANYBODY in this planet is qualified to answer such things, or hold some kind of magical power19:51
dantespeaksto revive my mom19:51
dantespeaksok?19:51
dantespeakslets get that clear sigh...19:51
curt1si hope you have a shrink to talk to19:51
accoladecryopreservation would have been the way to go, given sufficient credit19:51
dantespeaksyes my mom is cryopreserved.19:52
accoladeoh.  Cool19:52
dantespeaksduring the times of which kanzure was there to actually support me -19:52
accoladethen I guess everything isn't that bad19:52
justanotheruser^19:52
dantespeaks(words/guidelines)19:52
Lemminkainenwhoa wait she's cryopreserved? that's neat19:52
Lemminkainenhow much of her is frozen?19:52
Lemminkainen*vitrified19:52
accoladeyeah, I wanted to ask that too19:52
accoladebrain or whole body?19:52
dantespeaksLemmin. please watch how you say these things.19:52
dantespeaksit tears me apart just to talk about her right now19:53
Lemminkainenfuck, I'm a scientist and you expect me to not get excited by such things!?19:53
curt1swhat he really means is her head is in his freezer19:53
dantespeaksbut since kanzure seems like he's seriously alarmed of me being here,19:53
curt1sfucking nutter19:53
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justanotheruser:O19:53
accoladecurt1s, not funny19:53
@kanzuredefinitely him19:53
justanotheruserheh19:53
curt1saccolade: enough is enough19:53
accoladewow, now that seemed really uncalled for19:53
@kanzuretbh i wasn't completely surely until he admitted it19:53
curt1sit was definitely called for19:53
justanotheruserkanzure: what did he admit?19:54
Lemminkainenaccolade time costs cash19:54
curt1sokay everyone relax19:54
accoladeI hope you have very good 'sekr1t logs' to support this oppressive behaviour19:54
curt1skanzure had EVERY reason19:54
curt1sto ban that creeper19:54
accoladeyeah you keep repeating that19:54
gradstudentbotI wasn't able to find any references.19:54
@kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/juls3.txt19:54
curt1s^19:54
justanotheruserholy shit, that guy needs help :/19:55
Lemminkainensuch monologue19:55
curt1sno kidding19:55
@kanzureit's been at least 4 years of this shit19:55
accoladeTL;DR - would you have a line I should jump to?  Or a citation?19:55
curt1sif you have been following at all19:55
@kanzurenah it's one of those endless trolls19:55
accoladethat's long19:55
curt1syou would recognize the speech patterns immediately19:55
@kanzurebut really, same browser fingerprint19:56
@kanzureknows about xrumer19:56
accoladeadmittedly I haven't, I just joined like yesterday19:56
@kanzurelives in the same place19:56
@kanzuresame annoying bullshit19:56
@kanzurecryopreserved mom19:56
Lemminkainenthere has got to be a better way to deal with H+ fanbois and fangirls19:56
@kanzurecome on, really? that's enough bits to narrow anyone down.19:56
Lemminkainenwe had to call the cops to remove one from our house recently19:56
accoladeyikes19:56
@kanzurethe number of people who think positive things about xrumer is extremely limited19:57
@kanzureit's a terrible pile of crap (bad implementation) but also it's just spamware19:57
@kanzurepropagated by a very specific internet marketing/affiliate marketing community19:57
justanotheruserkanzure: is his mom really crypreserved?19:57
accoladeI'm just confused that from all the reasons you say you have to ban him, you do it now, when he didn't seem problematic at all (to me)19:57
accoladeor wait, you had already banned him, right?19:58
accoladeand he circumvented it and you just recognized him19:58
justanotheruseraccolade: he banned him, but didn't in a really ineffective way19:58
@kanzurejustanotheruser: correct19:58
accolade(except for the double negative)19:58
@kanzurejustanotheruser: yes he took out some money from a loan for the procedure19:58
justanotheruseraccolade: I mean did it, heh19:59
@kanzureaccolade: also correct..19:59
accoladecool19:59
@ParahSailinwho froze his mom?19:59
accoladethat that part isn't trolling19:59
@kanzureaccolade: it's very easy to circumvent irc bans. just get a different ip address.19:59
accoladeParahSailin, dantespeaks (banned)19:59
accoladekanzure, sure19:59
@kanzureParahSailin: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/juls3.txt19:59
LemminkainenMOTHERFUCKER OUR PAPER JUST GOT LEAKED19:59
@kanzureParahSailin: http://pastebin.com/1w1rbY9219:59
@kanzureagain i was a little on the fence about the evidence until he admitted it20:00
@kanzurei appreciate him doing that, makes it way easier to deal with20:00
justanotheruserHe clearly either doesn't understand or care about messaging manners. (don't send 100 messages without a reply)20:01
@kanzureit's part of a broader pathology that i don't completely understand20:01
justanotheruserIs xrumor some SEO software?20:02
justanotheruser*xrumer20:02
gradstudentbotIs that published?20:02
@kanzureyeah it's pretty poorly written seo software20:02
@kanzurebasic captcha stuff, has a list of a few million abandoned forums20:02
@kanzurespammy stuff20:03
accoladethat sucks20:03
@kanzuregradstudentbot: .add "MOTHERFUCKER OUR PAPER JUST GOT LEAKED"20:03
gradstudentbotYeah, I read the paper, I just don't remember the details.20:03
accoladeso gradstudentbot is actually a bot?20:03
gradstudentbotGrant submitted.20:03
@kanzureyes20:03
@kanzurea hilarious bot20:04
accoladegradstudentbot, what's your deal?20:04
gradstudentbotYeah, it should take me about 2 days.20:04
accoladegradstudentbot, to do what?20:04
gradstudentbotSorry for wasting your time.20:04
accoladegradstudentbot, no sweat20:04
gradstudentbotOh yeah, isn't that already a part on the biobrick registry?20:04
@kanzurei think it might be.. they have no ecoli smell in the biobrick registry, probably no sweat too.20:04
accoladeheh20:05
@kanzureaccolade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovEghdXC4tE20:05
justanotheruserkanzure: you have a lot of patience. Why wasn't he kicked 4 years ago?20:05
@kanzurehe most certainly was20:06
@kanzureit is easy to get a new ip address20:07
@kanzurehe is still pming me20:07
justanotheruseroh wow20:07
Vutralhm20:08
justanotheruserString that he came to someone running a science related channel to help him with money laundering20:09
justanotheruser*strange20:09
@kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/juls4.txt20:10
Vutraljust studying membrane coupled transporters ^^20:10
justanotheruserhis pathology may be based on the incorrect belief that he's going to become a multimillionaire (04:50:02 PM) Juyun Kim: 100 million in short time..20:11
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Lemminkainenwhew, contained20:11
Lemminkainenfun fact: it is a gaping dick move to share a pre-publication paper without permission20:12
accoladekanzure, heh @ vid20:12
cpopellLemminkainen: Ligandal paper?20:12
accolade"do you think I could get, like, Saturday off?" haha classic :D20:13
Vutralpathology ?20:13
Vutralmoney is meaningless in the future ^^20:13
@kanzure20:10 <dantespeaks> all i'm saying is. KEEP YOUR FANTASY TO YOURSELF and STOP telling people i'm nuts, ok? i'm more sane than you probably.20:14
@kanzurebtw i don't care that any of you are nuts20:14
Lemminkainencpopell yep20:15
Vutrali think i am a bit polymorphic20:15
LemminkainenVutral that's nice but we're not in the future yet20:15
Vutralbut the only nuts i see is those i eat20:15
cpopellprepping for next wednesday20:16
Vutralsadly not, yes, Lemminkainen20:16
Lemminkainenit must be nice to see roses all the time20:16
Vutralor maybe for me it isnt so bad ^^20:16
Lemminkainendon't let curt1s get after you about privilege20:16
@kanzurehe has a privilege about underprivileging20:17
Vutralhm20:17
@kanzurei can't troll him effectively about it20:17
Lemminkainenyou can tease him about martyrdom20:17
@kanzurego on20:17
cpopellsomeone competing in the privilege olympics?20:17
Vutrali want flowers too20:17
Vutrali only see microbes20:17
Vutralprivilege olympics ?20:17
Vutralare there privilege paralympics ?20:17
cpopellwho knows.20:18
Vutralunderprivileged i guess20:18
Lemminkainenself-inflicted martyrdom is a popular past-time, kanzure20:18
Lemminkainenhow can you not know that?20:18
Lemminkainenhaven't we spent enough time and love and effort trying to show you your own oppressive ways!?20:18
Vutralwell rat maze tests dont care about privileged or not20:18
Lemminkainenstep off my dick so I can show you the world, yo20:19
Vutral^^20:19
VutralLemminkainen, you are ok ?20:19
LemminkainenI'm great20:19
Lemminkainenthanks for inquiring20:19
Vutrali just check who might get insane20:20
Vutraldont take it as social behaviour ^^20:20
@kanzurewhat?20:21
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Vutralits so early20:21
Vutralwhats on topic20:22
kanzureLemminkainen: any other ideas for gradstudentbot?20:22
gradstudentbotI don't think our fume hood is safe.20:22
Vutralgradstudentbot, you will die20:23
gradstudentbotShe keeps talking about her Nature paper, but she was only third author.20:23
Vutralyou like the ensigns in startrek gradstudentbot20:23
gradstudentbotFuture work will focus on that.20:23
Lemminkainenkanzure "when is the lab happy hour again?"20:24
Lemminkainen"I'm worried about my quals"20:24
kanzureoh shit, quals20:24
kanzurei don't have anything about quals in there20:24
Vutrallol20:24
Lemminkainen"maybe if I increase the size of my experimental groups I can get statistical significance"20:24
kanzure"so my p value is 1?"20:25
Vutral"my coed is really irritating me"20:25
Lemminkainenhahaha20:25
Lemminkainen"it's not me, my pipettes need to be calibrated"20:25
Vutral"a coed drank all solvents of the lab now i need to do buy new"20:25
Vutralyeah20:26
Lemminkainenwhere do you live that you call labmates "coeds", Vutral ?20:26
Vutralcoeducated ^^20:26
Vutraloh thats slang ^^20:26
@ParahSailincoed is anglo for female college student20:27
Vutrallol20:27
Vutral^^20:27
Vutralit comes from coeducated :P20:27
Vutraldo you meet ""angelo"" often ?20:27
kanzureuh20:30
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* Vutral seeks some macadamia20:33
justanotheruserSorry if this is off topic, but I'm still reading those logs. (12:24:52 AM) Juyun Kim: Will also be buying f650 supertruck probably going to be modded as a mobile data communication center of sort. And just a normal vehicle.20:33
justanotheruserHe thinks he's going to buy a $100k car O_o20:33
Lemminkainenisn't that what all Canadians drive?20:34
justanotheruserright after he builds a $3m hackerspace20:34
LemminkainenI've always pictured an entire frigid nation full of SUVs and roads and no buildings except gas stations20:34
justanotheruserand he's going to park it inside the hackerspace?20:34
Vutralhm20:35
Vutralis he from north korea ?20:35
Vutralmaybe he gets it sponsored20:35
Vutral^^20:35
Vutralin china they probably got a clone20:35
kanzureno he's from south korea20:35
justanotheruser(02:59:44 PM) Juyun Kim: Thinking about making a thesis or something in synthetic biology and get a honorary degree phd or something20:36
Lemminkainenyeah, he can do that in just a few weeks20:36
Lemminkainensynthbio is easy20:36
justanotheruseroh yeah, I'm just going to make a few million then get an honorary PhD20:36
Lemminkainenthat's why Draper Fisher Jurvetson has poured so much $ into it20:36
justanotheruserThis guy seems to be in a completely different world20:36
Vutralcanadias20:36
Vutralif you wanna build a house you get 3 beavers ^^20:36
Vutralthey build it for you20:37
justanotheruserand after that he's going to team up with kanzure who hasn't responded to his last 200 messages20:37
Vutralhm ^^20:37
kanzuremore like 4000 messages20:37
Vutrali think if i anyone in northkorea got internet he wont tell ^^20:37
justanotheruser(10:35:48 PM) Juyun Kim: The thing is this. The H+, foresight, immortalist, transhumanist, all the life extension related activities are not funded because the public conception is simply impossible. And im the direct link between these people and.l to the politicians and billionaires. Somehkw it happened this way....20:38
Vutralnow i am keen he proves his link20:39
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Vutral^^20:39
Lemminkainenoh, then why am I fundraising for a biotech?20:39
kanzureVutral: i don't think you are able to read20:39
LemminkainenI should have just applied to the Juyun Kim Institute and gotten our lab going MONTHS ago20:39
justanotherusersomehow he's a millionaire SEO genius who will be building a hackerspace which will house his luxury car, at the same time he is the link between billionaires and politicians and will save us from death.20:40
Lemminkainenholy fuck he's Jesus20:40
Vutralkanzure, i just need time to wake up completly20:40
VutralLemminkainen, he got a cassandra complex?20:41
Lemminkainenwhat?20:41
kanzurethinking about kicking Vutral too20:41
Vutralthe greek mythologicla story20:42
Lemminkainenyou'll have to be a mite more specific than that, them Greeks had a lot of stories and cheese20:42
Vutralcassandra knew the future but couldnt change it20:43
Lemminkainenbullshit20:45
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Lemminkainenwe all know the future and CAN change it if we get off our fucking asses20:45
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justanotheruserkanzure: do you still work on skdb?20:46
kanzurei consider python-brlcad to be related at the moment20:46
kanzurehttps://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad20:46
justanotheruserkanzure: So will this be a component of skdb?20:47
kanzurehaving an easy way to represent and manipulate geometry can be very helpful towards packaging hardware up20:47
kanzureskdb suffers from some monolithic architecture issues20:48
kanzurerealistically skdb is best used as fodder for when designing an actual hardware package management system20:48
justanotheruserkanzure: You mean a proof of concept?20:50
kanzureit is not much of a proof! :)20:50
kanzureaptitude/apt-get and the debian package infrastructure is a much better proof of concept20:50
kanzurehttp://gnusha.org/skdb/package_spec.html20:51
justanotheruserkanzure: in my opinion, the most important thing skdb would do is force people to put together enough information to complete the project in an organized fashion.20:54
justanotheruserthe organized fashion is describing the way the package is made20:55
kanzuresomeone was trying to convince me that thingdoc was sufficient but i am not convinced20:56
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* juri_ hugs Lemminkainen.21:33
juri_keep fighting for people to get off their asses. please.21:34
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juri_and, if anyone has a good position for an all around walks-on-water hacker (with delusions of competency) in boston, drop me a line. ;P </shameless_plug>21:37
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cpopellI'm in DC, Lemmin is in SF, Kanz is in...Texas?21:46
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kanzureyes i am presently in austin, texas21:47
kanzureoh for boston, uh..21:47
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kanzureavery (bosslab) might not walk on water but he probably knows someone who does21:48
cpopellI can hook you up with some guys working on NGSS at harvard but that's about it21:48
cpopell...and that's only cuz chevrm isn't on here himself21:48
justanotheruserkanzure: will you be going to the bitcoin conference in austin texas?21:48
kanzurestreety: are you still in boston?21:48
kanzurejustanotheruser: yes21:48
justanotheruserkanzure: are you going to the hackathon?21:49
kanzureyes21:49
kanzurealthough i might leave if it's too bullshit21:49
justanotheruserkanzure: cool, I might see you there21:49
kanzurelet me know if you need a place to stay. extra room/bathroom.21:49
LemminkainenI don't know anything about opportunities in Boston21:49
Lemminkainenit's a giant black box to me right now21:49
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justanotheruserkanzure: I really appreciate the offer. I will let you know if I can't find anything21:50
LemminkainenSF, of course, is currently in love with the idea of competent walks-on-water hackers21:50
delinquentmeso if I want to find information on who the major beneficiaries of intel are ... what should I be googling?21:50
kanzurei promise you i will only insist you write a little bit of code, instead of an overwhelming lot of code21:50
cpopelldelinquentme: Uh, you mean the biggest funds investing in them?21:50
delinquentmecpopell, thatll do21:51
Lemminkainendelinquentme just figure out who Gordon Moore's mistresses are21:51
cpopellhttp://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/intc/ownership-summary21:51
cpopellc'mon bro :P21:51
delinquentmecpopell, thanks :D21:52
cpopellout of curiosity man21:52
cpopellyou post about all sorts of shit on fb21:53
cpopellwhat do you like21:53
cpopellactually21:53
cpopell...do?21:53
delinquentmepick my nose21:53
cpopell...and hit on girls while they're with their boyfriends. you know what I mean :P21:53
delinquentmeOh which chicks am I hitting on?21:54
delinquentmeSo intel is mostly owned in capital investments ... so I guess thats to be expected21:55
gradstudentbotOkay, someone really needs to do the lab dishes.21:55
delinquentmeIDK I got into this thought a second ago of " what company do I actually want to work with "21:55
kanzurei heard of an interesting fellow the other day who picks companies to work for solely based on whether or not they are experiencing a flash drop in their stock price21:56
kanzurefor example, he joined netflix when they tried to split physical dvds into a separate business. the stock tanked, he joined, got a stock grant relative to the current price at the time.21:57
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delinquentmekanzure, I like the idea ... Though might not get you the exact companies you want to work with22:02
delinquentmeBut cool resume addition22:03
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LemminkainenI was figuring that there'd've been some sort of amazing and profound thing happened while I was afk designing some immunology23:55
Lemminkainenbut noooooo23:55
Lemminkaineny'all're sture23:55
cpopellI'm studying for my interview, dick.23:56
Lemminkainenless studying terms, go find an OS system of those protocols, get it set up23:56
Lemminkainenthen break it and figure out how to fix it23:56
accoladeso.. what's the state of the art in h+ and biohacking - is there any relatively new technology available which I could apply to improve my life (and thus indirectly others')?23:57
cpopellthey list 4-6 operating systems, 12 languages, and 3-4 protocols23:57
Lemminkainenyou'll probably find it easier to do all of that if you create a VM for Linux23:57
Lemminkainenyep, that's about right23:57
Lemminkainengo implement and break them23:57
cpopellIf being decent at that is what they're hiring for, I'm screwed.23:57
cpopellI'm taking the advice of a guy who hires systems engineers I was chatting with23:58
Lemminkainenyou're going to understand the nuances of a system without having broken and fixed it?23:58
cpopellno, I'm just not going to have that understood in the next few days23:58
accoladehaha @ yoleaux - nice nick23:58
Lemminkainenaccolade sprints, squats, brotein23:58
accoladehah @ brotein23:59
accoladethose are not new at all, but maybe that condition wasn't so sensible anyway23:59
accoladethanks for the advice :)23:59
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