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| --- Day changed Fri Jan 31 2014 | ||
| Lemminkainen | nootropics and meditation as well | 00:00 |
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| accolade | I think sprints and squats are out for me atm, cause I have knee problems | 00:00 |
| cpopell | noots varying from person to person | 00:00 |
| gradstudentbot | Hey, let's write a paper about that. | 00:00 |
| accolade | when I jog ~10mins that is. I could try if they actually come when sprinting or squatting | 00:00 |
| Lemminkainen | accolade: | 00:01 |
| Lemminkainen | http://workout-essentials.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/The-30-Day-Squat-Challenge-Workout-Program.jpg | 00:01 |
| Lemminkainen | NSFW for those at work | 00:01 |
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| accolade | heh | 00:01 |
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| accolade | CAN'T READ | 00:01 |
| accolade | not user-friendly | 00:01 |
| Lemminkainen | it doesn't take THAT much blood to read | 00:02 |
| accolade | hehe | 00:02 |
| accolade | her butt like doesn't even fit in there! | 00:02 |
| accolade | looks shopped | 00:02 |
| accolade | care to elaborate on the noots and meditation? | 00:04 |
| accolade | I have tried meditation considerably but haven't had notable effects | 00:04 |
| cpopell | tcds as well | 00:04 |
| accolade | what's that? | 00:05 |
| cpopell | trans cranial direct stimulation | 00:05 |
| accolade | sounds intriguing | 00:05 |
| cpopell | look it up | 00:05 |
| accolade | already on ti | 00:05 |
| accolade | tdcs is the same? | 00:06 |
| Lemminkainen | noots depend entirely on what outcome you're trying to achieve | 00:06 |
| Lemminkainen | same with meditation | 00:06 |
| cpopell | accolade: yep | 00:06 |
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| cpopell | tdcs is the proper term, actually | 00:06 |
| cpopell | tdms and tdus are also things | 00:06 |
| accolade | Lemminkainen, is that so individual? Doesn't pretty much everyone want to be energetic, happy, productive, maybe some adventure? | 00:07 |
| cpopell | Depends | 00:07 |
| Lemminkainen | yes, but your means for getting there are going to be different | 00:07 |
| cpopell | some people want to calm down/destress | 00:07 |
| cpopell | some people don't | 00:07 |
| Lemminkainen | cpopell enjoys his misery | 00:07 |
| cpopell | cpopell isn't miserable | 00:07 |
| Lemminkainen | cpopell is obtuse sometimes, however | 00:07 |
| cpopell | he just needs to get laid more | 00:07 |
| accolade | I think I should return some time later to pick your brains on this, when I have more motivation | 00:09 |
| accolade | thanks cpopell, and Lemminkainen again! | 00:10 |
| cpopell | mhm | 00:10 |
| accolade | tdcs seems wicked :) | 00:18 |
| Lemminkainen | that depends on your moral framework and to what ends you're using it | 00:19 |
| accolade | oh, I meant that in a figurative way - "sweet" | 00:20 |
| juri_ | cpoppel: you're in DC as well? ever met up with the biohackers at the hacker space? | 00:21 |
| cpopell | Nope | 00:21 |
| juri_ | you should. there's at least two that are actual hackers. and, aren't me. ;) | 00:22 |
| accolade | do I need a doctor for tDCS? Is it expensive? | 00:22 |
| Lemminkainen | you need some parts and some courage | 00:22 |
| Lemminkainen | not expensive, < $50 | 00:23 |
| accolade | cool | 00:23 |
| Lemminkainen | you know how to solder? | 00:23 |
| accolade | I guess | 00:23 |
| cpopell | ...you can also buy kits. | 00:23 |
| accolade | if there is much to know about it, I probably don't | 00:23 |
| Lemminkainen | kits are lame | 00:23 |
| Lemminkainen | electrocute your brain on your own goddamn terms | 00:23 |
| accolade | courage by itself I have I guess, but do you actually mean I need to be risk-affine? | 00:24 |
| accolade | is it dangerous? | 00:24 |
| cpopell | if you fuck it up | 00:24 |
| accolade | doesn't sound so much so from the WP article | 00:24 |
| accolade | can I fuck it up with a kit? | 00:24 |
| Lemminkainen | yep | 00:24 |
| cpopell | no idea, haven't touched the things | 00:24 |
| accolade | mh :/ | 00:24 |
| Lemminkainen | are the consequences that severe? | 00:25 |
| Lemminkainen | no | 00:25 |
| Lemminkainen | you might burn your skin slightly | 00:25 |
| cpopell | I'm exceptionally risk averse tho | 00:25 |
| Lemminkainen | yes he is | 00:25 |
| cpopell | to a degree that irritates some people | 00:25 |
| Lemminkainen | he doesn't even like his nipples touched | 00:25 |
| cpopell | I don't like people touching me when I request they stop :P | 00:25 |
| accolade | I get the impression we have a history here… ;) | 00:25 |
| gradstudentbot | The paper was rejected. | 00:25 |
| accolade | there was a 'nipple time' | 00:26 |
| cpopell | nah, it was his business partner | 00:26 |
| cpopell | who I've known for years | 00:26 |
| accolade | so what should I do? I don't want to fry my brain obviously. Can I prevent the fuckup with due diligence or would I have to accept a certain risk? | 00:26 |
| cpopell | and was irritating me a bit. long story | 00:26 |
| accolade | slight skin frying is no problem at all | 00:26 |
| Lemminkainen | due diligence is helpful | 00:26 |
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| accolade | have you done it? | 00:34 |
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| Lemminkainen | I haven't been in one place long enough to assemble the tools for quite a while now | 01:16 |
| accolade | oh, how come? | 01:17 |
| Lemminkainen | nomadism | 01:38 |
| accolade | heh, why? Are you a couchsurfer? :) | 01:41 |
| Lemminkainen | nooo | 01:44 |
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| kanzure | wtf | 08:04 |
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| juri_ | ftw! | 08:30 |
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| kanzure | http://octopart.com/blog/archives/2014/2/hardware-hackathons-are-hard | 10:10 |
| kanzure | https://www.firebase.com/blog/2013-12-19-electric-imp-hackathon.html | 10:10 |
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| juri_ | hackathons are hard. i went to one hoping to meet other hackers, and instead got to feel more useless (no-one needs a hardware hacker / kernel programmer?), completely out of touch (i'm 35, the rest of the atendees were still in college), and alienated when the person i was sent there to meet treated me like a pariah. | 10:19 |
| juri_ | i went home afterward, and did some rash things. | 10:19 |
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| ParahSailin | if you run a tor node, you might be under a DoS attack | 11:09 |
| ParahSailin | two of my boxes have been experiencing fuckery | 11:09 |
| Tukotih_ | ParahSailin: Entry node? | 11:11 |
| ParahSailin | i run two exit nodes | 11:11 |
| wallmani | juri_: you need to learn node.js and angular to be a true hacker nowadays | 11:12 |
| wallmani | ParahSailin: is your ISP okay with that? or do you rent VPS'es for that? | 11:12 |
| ParahSailin | VPS's | 11:12 |
| juri_ | wallmani: i also know a plethora of web technologies, but could care less about node.js, or angular. | 11:15 |
| wallmani | but it's not the hacker thing nowadays | 11:16 |
| wallmani | in all seriousness, i hate the whole "hacker" culture now | 11:16 |
| wallmani | "oh i can write a javascript app that uses a google api to draw pictures of searches in your browser, i'm such a hacker!" | 11:16 |
| kanzure | that is not hacker culture | 11:17 |
| kanzure | i dunno why you would be under that mistaken impression | 11:17 |
| juri_ | because those are the #*^# *#%@#$@ @%@$@$@$@$@ people i run into at 'hackathons'. | 11:17 |
| kanzure | that is not an answer to my question | 11:18 |
| juri_ | well, if we tried to label an event a 'hackathon' ten years ago, and had real hackers there, the police would have been called. | 11:18 |
| wallmani | kanzure: that's what a lot of people seem to think hackers are nowadays | 11:18 |
| juri_ | and the organisers would likely be held on 'conspiracy' charges. | 11:18 |
| wallmani | haha, yeah | 11:18 |
| wallmani | now hackathons are recruiting events for companies | 11:19 |
| juri_ | now? its 'hip' to be a hacker. who knows maybe two languages. | 11:19 |
| juri_ | and is only able to use their mac. | 11:19 |
| kanzure | those recruiting events are clearly marked though. why would that be a surprise.. | 11:19 |
| kanzure | wait, what's wrong with using a mac? i think i have a few of those. | 11:19 |
| juri_ | using a mac? nothing. | 11:19 |
| juri_ | ONLY being able to use a mac? | 11:19 |
| kanzure | have you actually tested these people to see if they are incapable of using non-mac? i highly doubt this | 11:20 |
| kanzure | i am just skeptical of your claims here | 11:20 |
| juri_ | i've seen their reaction to when someone hands them a PC, linux or windows. | 11:20 |
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| juri_ | and yes, i've had them say "cant we just pull this up on my mac? this computer is too confusing." | 11:20 |
| wallmani | it shouldn't matter for a hacker what to use as long as it's a terminal though | 11:20 |
| gradstudentbot | You know, I can just do consulting. | 11:21 |
| superkuh | Unrelated: I found this technical book library just now. Alphabetically organized, but still useful. http://slib.phys.msu.ru/sl/ | 11:21 |
| wallmani | gradstudentbot: are you graduating this year? | 11:21 |
| gradstudentbot | When is he back from sabbatical? | 11:21 |
| wallmani | juri_: have you gone to a university hackathon? | 11:24 |
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| juri_ | wallmani: nope. i went to an openITP on or somesuch. i was pretty depresed, and was trying to go there to reach out. | 11:32 |
| juri_ | i was also sick as a dog, and was hearing voices from the fevers. i got depressed enough to attempt suicide, but the voices still took half a day afterward to go away. | 11:33 |
| juri_ | i REALLY have a low opinion of hackathons now, as a result. | 11:33 |
| juri_ | if you're going to hold a hackathon, please make sure you're ready for real hackers to show up. we're an abused enough section of society as it is. | 11:35 |
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| wallmani | i went to two university hackathons | 11:47 |
| wallmani | they kind of sucked | 11:47 |
| wallmani | "oh guys look at me i can use an occulus rift api and make this thing happen, i'm such a hacker" | 11:47 |
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| klafka | i don't think i've been to a university hackathon | 11:51 |
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| kanzure | anyone wishing to view the upcoming and hilarious biocurious "abandon ship" meeting are welcome to do so here: https://zoom.us/j/299573824 | 12:06 |
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| kanzure | i am trying to figure out if this is spam/phishy: "Dear Mr. Bishop, I came upon your contact information while reading the Talk section in the "Unsolved problems in philosophy" page on Wikipedia. I am a Canadian. I am currently investigating the foundations of epistemology. I have written a short paper (around 40 pages or so) on the subject. I was hoping I could email it to you to get your input and feedback." | 12:23 |
| kanzure | why would it matter that this person is a canadian? what the fuck | 12:24 |
| kanzure | wow it is a comment from 2006 | 12:24 |
| cpopell | isn't crazy dude canadian too? | 12:26 |
| kanzure | i have nothing against canadians in general | 12:26 |
| kanzure | i promise | 12:26 |
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| kanzure | welp since i actually commented on that wikipedia page 8 years ago, i guess it's not entirely unreasonable that someone would find me there | 12:27 |
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| ParahSailin | no philosophy | 12:49 |
| kanzure | how'd you lose ops | 12:50 |
| ParahSailin | i got in trouble | 12:50 |
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| kanzure | still dosed? | 12:50 |
| ParahSailin | havent had ops in a while i think | 12:51 |
| kanzure | nah wait you wouldn't be silly enough to run an irc client from your own tor exit node | 12:51 |
| kanzure | 20:27 <@ParahSailin> coed is anglo for female college student | 12:51 |
| kanzure | oh well | 12:51 |
| ParahSailin | oh, didnt notice | 12:51 |
| ParahSailin | cant run irc from a tor exit node anyway | 12:51 |
| ParahSailin | freenode would block it | 12:52 |
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| ParahSailin | uspto.gov really should not be giving http status lines like "crt0: ERROR couldn't open /usr/lib/dld.sl errno:000000023" | 13:23 |
| kanzure | nice | 13:24 |
| kanzure | what request did you send it? | 13:24 |
| ParahSailin | what requests plural i guess is the more correct question | 13:25 |
| ParahSailin | just regular crawling of some search queries | 13:26 |
| kanzure | i recommend mitmproxy if you want to investigate | 13:26 |
| ParahSailin | nah, im crawling with http-conduit so i have access to pretty good diagnostics | 13:27 |
| cpopell | uspto is slow as balls | 13:27 |
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| ParahSailin | looks like i was killing their max fd limit | 13:28 |
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| kanzure | cpopell: i don't think that phrase means what you think it means | 13:30 |
| jrayhawk | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=slow%20as%20balls the internet says it's legit | 13:34 |
| jrayhawk | the internet would never lie | 13:34 |
| kanzure | what does a snail know about testicles? | 13:35 |
| kanzure | oh wait, no philosophy | 13:35 |
| jrayhawk | haha | 13:35 |
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| AngriestBird | CRISPR-Cas is an efficient method for genome editing in organisms from bacteria to human cells. We describe a transgene-free method for CRISPR-Cas-mediated cleavage in nematodes, enabling RNA-homology-targeted deletions that cause loss of gene function; analysis of whole-genome sequencing indicates that the nuclease activity is highly specific. | 13:46 |
| AngriestBird | @paperbot CRISPR-Cas is an efficient method for genome editing in organisms from bacteria to human cells. We describe a transgene-free method for CRISPR-Cas-mediated cleavage in nematodes, enabling RNA-homology-targeted deletions that cause loss of gene function; analysis of whole-genome sequencing indicates that the nuclease activity is highly specific. | 13:47 |
| kanzure | you have to give paperbot an actual url to fetch | 13:47 |
| AngriestBird | thanks | 13:48 |
| kanzure | ethereum release in 2 hours | 14:00 |
| kanzure | oh nevermind | 14:02 |
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| timefold_ | afternoon | 14:09 |
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| Lemminkainen | cpopell 3 predictions for medical breakthroughs in 2014 | 17:48 |
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| xp_prg | check out my diybio expert system! http://plnkr.co/edit/yuZkr6VoKWswAp7KM3mt?p=preview | 17:59 |
| xp_prg | tell me what you think :> | 18:00 |
| Lemminkainen | this might work even better as an IRCbot | 18:01 |
| kanzure | gradstudentbot: how do i write a paper? | 18:01 |
| gradstudentbot | I saw that paper when it came out. | 18:01 |
| Lemminkainen | then we can redirect FAQs to DIYBIOHALP | 18:02 |
| kanzure | you mean http://diyhpl.us/wiki/diybio/faq | 18:03 |
| juri_ | or, we could just beat people about the head. | 18:03 |
| juri_ | i like that option better. | 18:03 |
| kanzure | oh i like that plan | 18:03 |
| kanzure | let's choose that one | 18:03 |
| xp_prg | well it is meant to run in a browser for now | 18:03 |
| xp_prg | anyway, do you see its potential at all? | 18:03 |
| juri_ | No, cause i'm not looking at something as wonderfully described as an 'expert system'. | 18:05 |
| kanzure | heh | 18:05 |
| juri_ | unless you're talking about watson style algorithms... not interested. | 18:05 |
| juri_ | and even then, for every ten people who ask me to look at their awesome web page, nine of them are trying to make money off of it, and using me as a tool to do so. | 18:06 |
| kanzure | i have concerns about your implementation choices.. there's no reason for all the html/css, that seems tobe a separate concern from an expert system | 18:06 |
| kanzure | *to be a | 18:06 |
| xp_prg | kanzure look at demo_es.js | 18:06 |
| xp_prg | that is the expert system, simple prolog statements | 18:06 |
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| xp_prg | I am not trying to make money with it juri, it is opensource | 18:07 |
| xp_prg | kanzure does that not impress at all? | 18:07 |
| gradstudentbot | Are you published? | 18:07 |
| kanzure | did you know that it's possible to make money with open source software? | 18:07 |
| xp_prg | yes | 18:07 |
| juri_ | i try to make money with free software, all day. | 18:07 |
| xp_prg | but is usually not designed to make money, it is an accident | 18:07 |
| kanzure | oh yes, and free software too | 18:07 |
| juri_ | not by keeping it secret, either. most days, i fail. | 18:07 |
| curt1s | mining doge coins? | 18:07 |
| kanzure | curt1s: hardly necessary | 18:08 |
| juri_ | wow. i'm in a very kanzure-like mood today. | 18:08 |
| Lemminkainen | hayo, chill now | 18:08 |
| Lemminkainen | xp_prg has implemented a first draft of a thing that could become neat | 18:08 |
| Lemminkainen | and I appreciate that he spent the time doing so even if it is currently of limited utility | 18:08 |
| xp_prg | thanks Lemminkainen, I heart upon you | 18:09 |
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| Lemminkainen | he didn't have to | 18:09 |
| xp_prg | it is the result of like 10 years of development | 18:09 |
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| Lemminkainen | it just needs more expert | 18:09 |
| juri_ | Lemminkainen: nods. i''m in a very bad mood today. try not to take it too personally. | 18:10 |
| gradstudentbot | She keeps talking about her Nature paper, but she was only third author. | 18:10 |
| curt1s | gradstudentbot: 3rd author aint bad bro | 18:10 |
| gradstudentbot | I think I'll be done in 6 years. | 18:10 |
| curt1s | kanzure: can we get some pseudo ai markov chain going | 18:11 |
| curt1s | im bored with gradstudentbot | 18:11 |
| gradstudentbot | You know they keep the mice in better conditions than us. | 18:11 |
| kanzure | curt1s: sure why not | 18:11 |
| kanzure | curt1s: also if he is presently annoying anyone i am happy to take him offline | 18:11 |
| curt1s | im not annoyed | 18:12 |
| curt1s | just bored | 18:12 |
| curt1s | i want more | 18:12 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/gradstudentbot.txt | 18:12 |
| gradstudentbot | Yeah, it's significant. | 18:12 |
| curt1s | oh | 18:13 |
| curt1s | just preloaded strings | 18:13 |
| curt1s | we can do better than that | 18:13 |
| kanzure | it is surprisingly good for random | 18:13 |
| kanzure | yes | 18:13 |
| curt1s | gradstudentbot: My matlab crashed. | 18:13 |
| gradstudentbot | I don't remember the paper, but someone definitely did that. | 18:13 |
| curt1s | :| | 18:13 |
| curt1s | gradstudentbot: matlab | 18:13 |
| gradstudentbot | Who's doing journal club today? | 18:13 |
| curt1s | soo | 18:14 |
| curt1s | random only eh | 18:14 |
| kanzure | nods | 18:14 |
| curt1s | ok | 18:14 |
| curt1s | maybe i should resurrect this old guy http://sourceforge.net/projects/benzo/ | 18:14 |
| curt1s | he's long dead and the database was pure gold | 18:14 |
| curt1s | efnet #high circa 2000-2003 | 18:15 |
| Lemminkainen | juri_ ain't taking it personally, just putting it out there that our first reaction to someone's work needn't be to tear it down immediately | 18:15 |
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| gradstudentbot | Did you see that hack? | 18:17 |
| curt1s | gradstudentbot: you don't learn | 18:17 |
| gradstudentbot | Hey, I got 100% yield! Oh wait, no. | 18:17 |
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| * curt1s expells gradstudentbot | 18:17 | |
| gradstudentbot | Guys, I just cured cancer. | 18:17 |
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| @kanzure | there we go | 18:17 |
| * curt1s kills gradstudentbot | 18:18 | |
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| curt1s | nothin huh? | 18:18 |
| @kanzure | muted him | 18:18 |
| curt1s | dont get me wrong i am not annoyed by him | 18:18 |
| curt1s | i just want funnier responses | 18:18 |
| curt1s | and a bot that learns | 18:19 |
| curt1s | and the repeats our crap back to us in silly ways | 18:19 |
| curt1s | then* | 18:19 |
| @kanzure | how about buttbot | 18:20 |
| curt1s | well | 18:21 |
| curt1s | i would like to resurrect benzo for personal reasons | 18:21 |
| curt1s | you can do whatever you want with buttbot | 18:21 |
| curt1s | how about madbot (python-irclib + madlib) | 18:22 |
| curt1s | love this stuff http://toykeeper.net/programs/mad/ | 18:22 |
| @kanzure | toykeeper used to visit here | 18:22 |
| curt1s | nice | 18:22 |
| @kanzure | until he became someone else | 18:22 |
| curt1s | wha | 18:23 |
| @kanzure | (i am not sure what the story is) | 18:23 |
| curt1s | gender or identity reassignment? | 18:23 |
| curt1s | or something else | 18:23 |
| @kanzure | well it might be identity theft so i dunno | 18:23 |
| @kanzure | it's possibly one or all of the above | 18:23 |
| curt1s | interesting, and odd | 18:24 |
| curt1s | andy, former #high owner (after original owner died of leukemia and went out in a blaze of drug fueled glory) and the guy who made benzo went to work for akamai | 18:25 |
| curt1s | im sure he made loads of cash and now consults for whoever | 18:26 |
| @kanzure | ah yes because that's the first thing i wanted to do after getting loads of cash.... consulting | 18:26 |
| curt1s | well | 18:26 |
| curt1s | consulting for MORE loads | 18:26 |
| curt1s | (of cash) | 18:26 |
| juri_ | Lemminkainen: notable, but describing something as a 'expert system', and offering to show it off via a web page is not a great foot to start on, if you're talking to a Free Software Developer. | 18:27 |
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| Lemminkainen | Believe me I know that it isn't expert enough | 18:39 |
| Lemminkainen | But the "lol that sucks, go away" reflex so prevalent in nerd culture really grates on my nerves | 18:39 |
| xp_prg | thanks Lemminkainen for being a positive uplifting person :> | 18:40 |
| Lemminkainen | lol that I'm uplifting | 18:42 |
| Lemminkainen | but thanks anyhow | 18:42 |
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| * xp_prg hugs Lemminkainen *close* | 18:43 | |
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| * Lemminkainen not sure about this | 18:48 | |
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| AngryBird123 | paperbot http://www.genetics.org/content/195/3/1167.short | 19:10 |
| @kanzure | pygccxml is a useful thing | 19:10 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/3a013805bf8baab9c54e8e22de0bdf64.txt | 19:10 |
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| @kanzure | hg clone is taking forever from bitbucket | 19:54 |
| pasky | paperbot http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10732-009-9121-7 | 20:00 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/847d7503f11b8b5f658a4e36513d6019.txt | 20:00 |
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| @kanzure | pyplusplus is weird | 20:18 |
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| @kanzure | huh, X-named headers are deprecated http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6648 | 20:54 |
| uberj | the web is full of those... | 20:56 |
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| @kanzure | ugh fucking node | 23:07 |
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| @kanzure | PhantomJS detected, but wrong version 1.10.0 (development) @ /usr/bin/phantomjs. | 23:07 |
| @kanzure | Downloading http://cdn.bitbucket.org/ariya/phantomjs/downloads/phantomjs-1.9.7-linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 | 23:07 |
| @kanzure | Saving to /tmp/phantomjs/phantomjs-1.9.7-linux-x86_64.tar.bz2 | 23:07 |
| @kanzure | fuck node | 23:07 |
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| uberj | paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=320179 | 23:09 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/A%20Data%20Structure%20for%20Arc%20Insertion%20and%20Regular%20Path%20Finding.pdf | 23:09 |
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