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| @kanzure | i wonder if cython handles templates | 07:18 |
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| ParahSailin | you are trying to build cython bindings for brl-card now? | 08:05 |
| kanzure | gambatte | 08:17 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/vba-linux | 08:17 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/python-vba-wrapper | 08:17 |
| kanzure | the only problem is that vba sucks | 08:18 |
| kanzure | python/ctypes brlcad bindings are working fine btw https://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad | 08:18 |
| ParahSailin | not visual basic for applications? | 08:20 |
| kanzure | gameboy emulation stuff | 08:20 |
| ParahSailin | virtual boy amulator? | 08:21 |
| kanzure | visualboyadvanc | 08:21 |
| kanzure | visualboyadvance | 08:21 |
| ParahSailin | trying to add scripting hooks to an emulator? | 08:23 |
| ParahSailin | it looks like it already has lua hooks? | 08:24 |
| kanzure | vba-rr has lua bindings, vba-clojure has jvm bindings | 08:24 |
| kanzure | yeah but vba-rr forces you to run lua inside the emulator | 08:24 |
| kanzure | i wanted bindings the other way around | 08:24 |
| kanzure | and vba-clojure would require jython and that just didn't work out wel | 08:25 |
| kanzure | *well | 08:25 |
| kanzure | so i wrote python bindings and they work | 08:25 |
| kanzure | but the problem is that the results are not consistent because vba sucks | 08:25 |
| kanzure | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqhy6VpsXzE&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1sapBsRQ1__rgp7qWs0cow | 08:25 |
| kanzure | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81FL2Hq64p0&feature=c4-overview&list=UU1sapBsRQ1__rgp7qWs0cow | 08:25 |
| ParahSailin | nondeterminism? | 08:26 |
| kanzure | i assume bugs in the emulator | 08:27 |
| kanzure | gambatte has much more thorough testing, https://github.com/sinamas/gambatte/tree/master/testrunner/hwtests | 08:27 |
| ParahSailin | ah that one is actually using c++ rather than c with .cpp extensions | 08:30 |
| kanzure | :\ the whole game emulation community is fucking weird and borderline incompetent sometimes | 08:31 |
| kanzure | gambatte disabled bug reports on github | 08:32 |
| ParahSailin | yeah i imagine the STL shit is hard for the ctypes | 08:32 |
| kanzure | ctypes can't do C++ things anyway | 08:33 |
| kanzure | because of symbol name mangling | 08:33 |
| ParahSailin | right i wouldnt think so | 08:33 |
| kanzure | swig apparently can't handle these templates either | 08:33 |
| kanzure | it supposedly has support for some c++ templates but not these | 08:33 |
| ParahSailin | pyplusplus maybe can handle it | 08:33 |
| kanzure | i can't get pyplusplus to work in any meaningful way | 08:34 |
| ParahSailin | roman yakov has done a lot of insane c++ stuff | 08:34 |
| kanzure | sooo i'm back to cython | 08:34 |
| kanzure | yeah i was reading lots of pyplusplus things yesterday, kept seeing his name around | 08:34 |
| kanzure | pygccxml is neat | 08:34 |
| kanzure | i sorta avoided it because it says xml but it makes sense | 08:34 |
| ParahSailin | parse the AST of C++, but what then? | 08:34 |
| kanzure | >/dev/null i assume | 08:35 |
| kanzure | i keep running into these shitting binding/wrapping situations anyway | 08:35 |
| kanzure | so i was trying to think of a more generic solution | 08:35 |
| kanzure | for example, an rpc library that i can drop into c++ projects | 08:35 |
| kanzure | and then there'd be a python/rpc side that would communicate with it | 08:36 |
| kanzure | (as opposed to doing direct library calls) | 08:36 |
| kanzure | another option is to just write my own pile of extern "C" functions.. but i feel like a chum doing it, given all these other wrapper generators. | 08:37 |
| kanzure | btw if you're able to get pyplusplus to work maybe you can dump notes on me.. | 08:38 |
| ParahSailin | kanzure: do you want an interesting reverse engineering project? | 08:39 |
| ParahSailin | the illumina bcl format begs for it | 08:39 |
| ParahSailin | i started looking at the c++ applications that process it in objdump, but havent done any serious gdb on those yet | 08:40 |
| kanzure | is it urgent? i think i have someone at illumina that can just.. give you things. | 08:40 |
| ParahSailin | that would be useful | 08:40 |
| kanzure | okay let me send some hatemail | 08:40 |
| kanzure | hatemail deployed | 08:41 |
| kanzure | so it's probably some windows exe? | 08:42 |
| kanzure | QuantumG used to do this fancy dll injection trick to isolate individual functions that he was poking at | 08:43 |
| kanzure | http://www.quantumg.net/injectdll.php | 08:43 |
| ParahSailin | oh no its not a windows exe | 08:43 |
| ParahSailin | its x64 regular elf | 08:43 |
| kanzure | well that's a good start | 08:44 |
| ParahSailin | and objdump is pretty helpful | 08:44 |
| kanzure | send me the bin so i can follow along at home | 08:45 |
| kanzure | i dunno if this is featureful enough yet but http://onlinedisassembler.com/ | 08:46 |
| ParahSailin | ok i was trying to do this off the publicly logged channel over pm | 08:49 |
| kanzure | oh sorry, i have >300 windows open and irssi is still horizontal window listing and it is dumb | 08:49 |
| ParahSailin | what is the ssh gnusha server again | 08:50 |
| kanzure | it's your flname username | 08:51 |
| kanzure | gnusha.org or diyhpl.us should both work | 08:51 |
| ParahSailin | oh, scp is not enabled on the rsh | 08:54 |
| kanzure | oh you have the restricted shell? hah | 08:54 |
| kanzure | try again sorry | 08:55 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: is there a correct way to switch out the shell other than editing /etc/passwd | 08:55 |
| curt1s | what other way are you expecting | 08:56 |
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| curt1s | that is the way | 08:56 |
| kanzure | i'm sure there's some userspace/adminspace tool | 08:57 |
| curt1s | yeah a userspace tool that edits /etc/passwd for you :P | 08:57 |
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| kanzure | why not? with sudo privileges it would work | 08:57 |
| curt1s | of course | 08:58 |
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| ParahSailin | kanzure: change the shell on username parah | 10:23 |
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| kanzure | okay you got it | 10:47 |
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| ParahSailin | uploaded to that home directory | 10:59 |
| kanzure | hrmm _ZN2ga11basecalling19ParallelCycleReaderD0Ev | 11:01 |
| ParahSailin | yeah | 11:02 |
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| ParahSailin | and now theres a sample .bcl file there too | 11:06 |
| kanzure | i suggest wrapping into python asap and writing various helper functions for poking at their common library funcs | 11:07 |
| kanzure | you'll probably have to guess about the function signatures a little bit but who cares | 11:08 |
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| curt1s | ParahSailin: do you ever worry that your chosen nick is no longer topical | 11:35 |
| ParahSailin | i look forward to when it becomes an obscure in-joke | 11:36 |
| curt1s | that'll be the day | 11:38 |
| curt1s | when old folks who voted for mccain in 2004 can have a chuckle | 11:38 |
| curt1s | er | 11:39 |
| curt1s | 2008* | 11:39 |
| curt1s | lol | 11:39 |
| curt1s | derp | 11:39 |
| ParahSailin | see? already starting to forget about the time a mormon and a woman with a minnesota accent ran for president | 11:41 |
| curt1s | i *wanted* to forget we had gwb as president for as long as we did... | 11:43 |
| curt1s | then i remembered | 11:43 |
| curt1s | :( | 11:43 |
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| kanzure | "No I don't think I know anyone with that info. There are a few guys at work that I don't know very well who maybe know. I will ask around next week." | 12:12 |
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| jrayhawk | kanzure: chsh | 12:22 |
| jrayhawk | when invoked by normal users it is restricted to /etc/shells | 12:23 |
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| ParahSailin | i know someone at illumina too, though i dont think he works with that stuff or is willing to risk getting in trouble | 12:57 |
| curt1s | jrayhawk: it's chpass | 12:59 |
| curt1s | so you'd do chpass -s <newshell> | 13:00 |
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| curt1s | (followed by user) | 13:01 |
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| curt1s | i guess you could have used that earlier kanzure | 13:01 |
| curt1s | but all that does is edit the user database for you | 13:02 |
| jrayhawk | jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ dpkg -S bin/chsh | 13:02 |
| jrayhawk | passwd: /usr/bin/chsh | 13:02 |
| jrayhawk | jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ dpkg -S bin/chpass | grep -v chpasswd | 13:02 |
| jrayhawk | jrayhawk@richardiv:~$ | 13:02 |
| curt1s | what's your point? | 13:05 |
| jrayhawk | That one is installed on every POSIX system in existence and the other is not. | 13:06 |
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| curt1s | oh ok | 13:10 |
| curt1s | so it's not on your system, therefore it doesn't exist | 13:10 |
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| kanzure | kicked for failing to troll well enough | 13:11 |
| curt1s | who? | 13:12 |
| ParahSailin | ohhh... looks like bcl uses the bottom 2 bits to encode base and the top rest bits of a byte to encode quality score | 13:13 |
| ParahSailin | looks like this is gonna be pretty simple | 13:13 |
| ParahSailin | and if quality is zero, the resultant base is "." | 13:14 |
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| jrayhawk | curt1s: Generally I have an ounce of respect for portability. | 13:32 |
| jrayhawk | e.g. chsh is guaranteed to be a general purpose answer and thus applicable to whomever is asking the question, both due to SUIDness and due to POSIXness, whereas chpass is not. | 13:34 |
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| jrayhawk | Kanzure in particular does not spend a lot of time in the BSD ecosystem. | 13:34 |
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| curt1s | i see jrayhawk | 13:37 |
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| jrayhawk | In the same vein, I will attempt to answer shell questions in POSIX shell while avoiding Bashisms despite wide deployment of Bash. | 13:40 |
| curt1s | that's cool i gues | 13:40 |
| curt1s | guess* | 13:40 |
| curt1s | do you think bash is more popular now, though? | 13:41 |
| jrayhawk | If interactive, Bash has retained popularity for decades. If including noninteractive invocations, no, busybox's dash or busybox's sh is vastly more widely employed, notably at least dozens of times in init systems. | 13:43 |
| jrayhawk | s/busybox's dash/dash/ | 13:44 |
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| jrayhawk | e.g. Debian/Ubuntu/Steambox have /bin/sh -> /bin/dash, the bajillion varieties of embedded Linux networking products have /bin/sh -> /bin/busybox | 13:49 |
| jrayhawk | Oh yeah, and most initramfses are using busybox, too. | 13:50 |
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| @heath | does anyone have access to this video? | 14:01 |
| @heath | http://www.jove.com/video/50268/designing-a-bio-responsive-robot-from-dna-origami | 14:01 |
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| ParahSailin | actually, bcl is surprisingly easy to deal with | 14:07 |
| ParahSailin | theres like no reason to have to use illumina's shitty casava | 14:08 |
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| ParahSailin | even the .pos files encoding cluster positions are pretty straightforward | 14:12 |
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| Technicus | Hello, I am new to robotics, and trying to learn about visual tracking/sensing and how it is processed in the evaluation of autonamous decision making. What resources should I review to learn about this subject? | 14:18 |
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| @heath | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23893007 | 14:43 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.3791%2F50268 | 14:44 |
| @heath | hm, something wrong with this addey? | 14:45 |
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| @heath | http://ecsource.jove.com/CDNSource/50268_Bachelet_070513_F2_Web.mp4 | 15:02 |
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| jrayhawk | badass | 15:52 |
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| kanzure | have i mentioned i hate js today? https://github.com/aaronallport/generator-angular-require/issues/8 | 16:11 |
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| * heath has switched from using requirejs to handle modules to letting ng handle modules | 17:07 | |
| @heath | the only nastiness now is that the files are cocatenated into one large file which isn't nice for debugging | 17:08 |
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| kanzure | source maps | 17:11 |
| kanzure | but also, the default seems to be "insert lots of script tags into your index.html file" and why the fuck would i want that? | 17:11 |
| kanzure | i guess i should add a minifier to my build process | 17:11 |
| @heath | you should just use grunt concat, so you don't hav eto insert lots of script tags manually | 17:14 |
| @heath | s/\,// | 17:14 |
| @heath | at least that's the current thought process | 17:14 |
| @heath | i'd like to switch over to reactjs soon | 17:15 |
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| @heath | thinking of trying out nightwatch + react + om || reagent | 17:16 |
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| @heath | but then... i need harp, because i still want to use jade and stylus | 17:18 |
| @heath | and harp has yet to build out the plugin system they have been talking about... | 17:18 |
| @heath | hrm... this needs working on | 17:18 |
| kanzure | i don't remember why substack hates grunt | 17:20 |
| kanzure | heath: angularjs blows, https://github.com/angular/angular.js/issues/5122 | 17:21 |
| kanzure | does angularjs handle modules that aren't angularjs modules? | 17:22 |
| @heath | no, that's a manual process | 17:23 |
| kanzure | bleh | 17:23 |
| kanzure | you are not bringing me good news | 17:23 |
| @heath | i need to try out this: https://npmjs.org/package/bower-installer | 17:25 |
| kanzure | i've been using that | 17:26 |
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| kanzure | oh wait, no | 17:26 |
| kanzure | i am using a grunt-bower-install thing | 17:26 |
| kanzure | specifically grunt-bower-install | 17:26 |
| @heath | reqiurejs requires you to manually update its file everytime you want to create a new controller, it's tedious compared to grunt concat | 17:27 |
| @heath | yeah, sourcemaps needs to go in place | 17:27 |
| kanzure | generator-angular-require does not require you to manually update the file, but it's scaffolding so it's the other side of evil | 17:27 |
| * heath walks away for awhile | 17:28 | |
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| ParahSailin | hm, so sshdroid is just dropbear with adware? | 19:06 |
| kanzure | just run debian in a chroot | 19:07 |
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| drazak | anyone hav ea source for set theory and metric spaces by kaplansky | 20:19 |
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| n_bentha | derp | 21:05 |
| kanzure | ? | 21:06 |
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| n_bentha | kanzure, i'm mostlikely moving labs soon | 21:12 |
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| n_bentha | to one where my PI is never in the lab! | 21:12 |
| n_bentha | and tenured w/ lots of money for 10+ years of research and lots of down time. | 21:13 |
| n_bentha | im super excited | 21:13 |
| kanzure | full tenure? | 21:13 |
| kanzure | what are the terms | 21:13 |
| n_bentha | pm | 21:16 |
| n_bentha | kanzure, why don't you have ops? | 21:17 |
| kanzure | i turn it off sometimes | 21:17 |
| kanzure | so are the 'instructors' in this document technically on the tenure track? | 21:18 |
| n_bentha | fuck if i know. the bastard i work for now doesn't deserve it | 21:18 |
| kanzure | hehe "Evidence of professional service contributions" | 21:19 |
| n_bentha | but yes, i'd assume that they are all on 'tenure track'. they have to apply for tenure every few years | 21:19 |
| kanzure | "i drew myself giving you the finger and published it in the journal of fuck off" | 21:19 |
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| @kanzure | what | 21:19 |
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| @kanzure | gradstudentbot: tenure! | 21:20 |
| gradstudentbot | I don't know what to tell you, I thought I would have graduated by now. | 21:20 |
| n_bentha | :O | 21:25 |
| @kanzure | n_bentha: so what do you plan to do with this new overwhelming amount of power? | 21:42 |
| n_bentha | fuck bitches, get money | 21:44 |
| @kanzure | that is your academic plan? | 21:44 |
| n_bentha | no, i'm off to medical school. i'm just going to work normal hours and take as many breaks as possible while doing just enough to publish | 21:45 |
| n_bentha | realistic expectations are the best, amirite? | 21:45 |
| @kanzure | normal hours | 21:46 |
| n_bentha | 9-5 | 21:47 |
| n_bentha | but i can probably twist my pi's arm to let me do 7-3 | 21:48 |
| ParahSailin | yo | 21:50 |
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| @kanzure | i don't even know what tenure in a medical school implies | 21:51 |
| @kanzure | does that mean you get to inherit the blood slide collection? | 21:51 |
| @kanzure | the collection of preserved gall bladders | 21:51 |
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| @kanzure | maybe you will be assigned to the fingernail emporium | 21:52 |
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| n_bentha | lol kanzure, pretty much the same as a regular univ, but more emphasis on grant money | 22:03 |
| ParahSailin | isnt that the entire emphasis?\ | 22:05 |
| ParahSailin | at either.. | 22:05 |
| n_bentha | undergraduate institutions value teaching abilities and professionalism slightly more | 22:11 |
| ParahSailin | heh | 22:12 |
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