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| delinquentme | So I managed to find a hand held sensor which measures ~350 VOCs :D | 08:24 |
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| delinquentme | Not sure on the price yet ... or which specific VOCs .. but waiting for a list ... Theres tons of work being done making these really small sensors ... but a hand held is small enough to mount remotely :D | 08:24 |
| delinquentme | facemasks + measuring exhaled compounds | 08:24 |
| delinquentme | anything to give us more information on whats going on in the body | 08:25 |
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| ParahSailin | hm i could definitely use a voc sensor | 09:33 |
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| heath | kanzure: why are you using angular btw? | 11:56 |
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| kanzure | heath: i have no idea | 12:01 |
| kanzure | heath: figured i would try something other than backbone for once | 12:01 |
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| kanzure | i wrote a lot of gulp-related things yesterday for my build system | 12:02 |
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| kanzure | i definitely like it, compared to grunt that i just tolerate | 12:02 |
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| kanzure | gulp+browserify is just hilariously simple | 12:02 |
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| heath | s/angular/react/g "for good time | 12:03 |
| kanzure | i am a little bit unsure why angularjs has so many eyeballs on it | 12:03 |
| heath | I've started playing with Om | 12:03 |
| kanzure | where are these yeoman people coming from? | 12:03 |
| kanzure | i think they might all be googlers but i'm not sure | 12:03 |
| heath | s/angular/om "rather | 12:04 |
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| kanzure | heath: none of your regexes make any sense today | 12:04 |
| heath | :) | 12:04 |
| heath | https://github.com/swannodette/om | 12:05 |
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| heath | http://vuejs.org/perf/ | 12:05 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/ChtiJS/chtijs.francejs.org/blob/gulp/gulpfile.js | 12:05 |
| heath | Om is where it's at | 12:05 |
| kanzure | oh sure, i definitely believe those performance results- angularjs does seem cluggish in a few places, but i haven't identified why | 12:06 |
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| kanzure | heath: i dunno man.. https://github.com/swannodette/todomvc/blob/gh-pages/labs/architecture-examples/om-undo/project.clj | 12:10 |
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| heath | https://gist.github.com/heath/8919206 | 12:11 |
| heath | that came from http://www.deepbluelambda.org/programming/clojure/dart-vs-clojurescript--two-weeks-later | 12:11 |
| heath | it pretty much sums up my experience with clojurescript so far except that i'm not reconsidering coffeescript/angular/grunt/etc. | 12:12 |
| kanzure | drop grunt. no reason to keep it around. | 12:13 |
| kanzure | unless you're doing some really insane builds? | 12:13 |
| kanzure | a while back i was trying to get grunt/requirejs/r.js/almond to play well together for builds and testing but then i realized i hated the world so i stopped | 12:15 |
| heath | hm, i don't know how insane it is... a typical deploy task will look like: | 12:15 |
| heath | 'clean', 'harp', 'copy:build', 'filerev:img', 'usemin', 'filerev:css', 'usemin', 'cdn:templates', 'html2js', 'concat:app', 'uglify', 'filerev:js', 'usemin', 'cdn', 'copy:deploy', 'aws_s3:assets', 'aws_s3:html' | 12:15 |
| kanzure | tell me what these are: harp cdn aws_s3:* | 12:15 |
| kanzure | i'm not really sure why you are calling usemin so many times :) just do it once? | 12:15 |
| kanzure | surely the aws_s3:* tasks are for deployment.. | 12:16 |
| kanzure | oh, deploy task. right. | 12:16 |
| heath | cdn = grunt-cdn2 | 12:17 |
| heath | using harp to compile stylus, jade, coffee files | 12:17 |
| heath | and deploying it all to an s3 bucket | 12:17 |
| kanzure | oh, grunt-cdn2 just does url manipulation on resources.. got it. | 12:17 |
| kanzure | yeah, this is all gulp-compatible at the moment, except for harp which i'm not sure about | 12:18 |
| heath | also i've switched from using classes to a more fp style of writing controllers | 12:20 |
| kanzure | show? | 12:21 |
| heath | https://gist.github.com/heath/8923492 | 12:23 |
| kanzure | i've never seen the second approach used in the angularjs world | 12:28 |
| heath | I wrote an entire project like that | 12:28 |
| kanzure | sometimes they return a dict to hide some of the earlier internal state stuff | 12:29 |
| kanzure | hrm | 12:29 |
| kanzure | is $scope and $state passed into the constructor in the second case? | 12:30 |
| kanzure | this is closer to what i've written: https://github.com/angular-app/angular-app/blob/master/client/src/common/security/security.js | 12:31 |
| heath | yeah, updated the gist for you | 12:32 |
| heath | The only reason for the switch is that it feels nicer, you don't have @scope, or @state all over the place | 12:33 |
| heath | i really dig pythons' consistency | 12:40 |
| heath | ignore incorrectly placed paren | 12:40 |
| heath | https://gist.github.com/heath/8923724 | 12:40 |
| heath | it's not listed, but... i just remembered after reading these just how easy it is to read .py | 12:41 |
| heath | k | 12:43 |
| * heath gets back to work | 12:43 | |
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| kyknos_ | still no paperbot? | 14:47 |
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| pasky_ | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24268336 | 15:08 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.cvsm.2013.09.005 | 15:08 |
| pasky_ | aw, 404 | 15:08 |
| pasky_ | hmm, i wonder how large its equivalence classes are | 15:09 |
| pasky_ | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195561613001976 | 15:09 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/cfa679fb92f5c346fb5fb0f6e75083c1.txt | 15:09 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ShoppingCartURL&_method=add&_eid=1-s2.0-S0195561613001976&originContentFamily=serial&_origin=article&_acct=C000054237&_version=1&_userid=1694017&_ts=1392073761&md5=1a7dd9ef11793b56013ba3105e4e8d12 | 15:10 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/bef775146bc3b1f1e038fae2c8541d44.txt | 15:10 |
| kanzure | huh. okay. | 15:10 |
| kanzure | oh yeah, that's the purchase link | 15:10 |
| kanzure | that makes sense | 15:10 |
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| juri_ | kanzure: seen pdfedit? | 16:03 |
| chris_99 | ooh yay paperbots back :) | 16:03 |
| kanzure | no i haven't | 16:08 |
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| FourFire | well, I just Really realized what the term "uncanny valley" means | 16:27 |
| FourFire | who in here has seen the movie "Her" ? | 16:28 |
| curt1s | FourFire: i just got a screener, gonna watch | 16:32 |
| curt1s | http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/will-a-nicotine-patch-make-you-smarter-excerpt/ | 16:33 |
| FourFire | a screener? | 16:33 |
| curt1s | yeah | 16:33 |
| curt1s | dvd distributed to people who are eligible to vote for awards | 16:34 |
| FourFire | ok, of that movie | 16:35 |
| curt1s | yes | 16:35 |
| FourFire | well have fun | 16:35 |
| curt1s | good? | 16:35 |
| curt1s | i do love joaquin phoenix | 16:35 |
| chris_99 | it sounds interesting, did you enjoy it FourFire | 16:35 |
| curt1s | The Master was one of my favs of the last few years | 16:36 |
| curt1s | also starring the marvelous, now-dead philip seymour hoffman | 16:36 |
| curt1s | :( | 16:36 |
| curt1s | anyway re: "Smarter," (link above) i have seen some of the papers suggesting protective effects of nicotine | 16:38 |
| curt1s | probably a few years ago already | 16:38 |
| FourFire | chris_99, not done watching | 16:38 |
| FourFire | only made it to minute 77 | 16:39 |
| chris_99 | aha, enjoy the rest then | 16:39 |
| FourFire | where i was very suddenly struck by "uncanny valley" | 16:39 |
| FourFire | like, for the first time ever | 16:39 |
| curt1s | but besides that, everybody who has ever smoked probably knows nicotine is cool :D | 16:39 |
| curt1s | i quit tobacco years ago but have recently come to appreciate the e-cig | 16:39 |
| curt1s | nicotine without the tobacco is pretty sweet | 16:40 |
| FourFire | I think gwern.net has a piece on it | 16:40 |
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| curt1s | FourFire: nice, found it | 16:41 |
| chris_99 | i'm really looking forward to Transendance and The Zero Theorem | 16:41 |
| FourFire | yeah Johnny depp as a singularitan | 16:44 |
| FourFire | looking forward to that | 16:44 |
| FourFire | I haven't heard of Zero theorem: is it indie? | 16:45 |
| curt1s | ohh yeah super excited about transcendence | 16:45 |
| curt1s | directed by chris nolan's DP | 16:45 |
| curt1s | should be pretty cool-looking if nothing else | 16:46 |
| chris_99 | it's by terry gilliam FourFire | 16:46 |
| curt1s | zero theorem stars christoph waltz | 16:47 |
| curt1s | phenomenal actor of inglorious basterds fame | 16:47 |
| curt1s | some good movies coming out this year | 16:47 |
| chris_99 | mm | 16:47 |
| FourFire | oh yeah I've seen that trailer | 16:47 |
| curt1s | im really looking forward to lars von trier's Nymphomaniac | 16:48 |
| curt1s | looks super unpleasant | 16:48 |
| curt1s | but intriguing | 16:48 |
| FourFire | looked somehow reminiscent of "being john malkovich" | 16:48 |
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| nsh | wat | 17:11 |
| nsh | talking about films? | 17:11 |
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| curt1s | yes nsh films | 18:33 |
| curt1s | sort of quaint i know | 18:33 |
| curt1s | but a pleasant interlude | 18:34 |
| kanzure | nsh: i wasn't aware of the origin of the term chaordic until recently | 18:34 |
| kanzure | nsh: seems relevant to the times | 18:34 |
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| archels | Fees include lunches, coffee breaks and a wine reception on the evening of Monday 31st March. | 22:14 |
| archels | crikey, a wine reception on the first day of a 4-day conference? | 22:15 |
| kanzure | that's how you know they're serious, i guess | 22:16 |
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