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| kanzure | http://mag.newsweek.com/2014/03/14/bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto.html | 07:33 |
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| kanzure | ""He is very wary of government interference in general," she says. "When I was little, there was a game we used to play. He would say, 'Pretend the government agencies are coming after you.' And I would hide in the closet."" | 07:33 |
| MPR | that article made me irritated | 07:42 |
| MPR | "hi i just want privacy" "oh ok let me just publish all your contact information and a picture of your house on the internet" | 07:42 |
| MPR | what a dick | 07:42 |
| chris_99 | yeah that was really harsh on him | 07:47 |
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| eudoxia | i'm pretty confident it's just a coincidence that's he's paranoid of the government and named satoshi nakamoto | 08:02 |
| eudoxia | i mean, why would satoshi go through all the trouble of registering bitcoin.org anonymously and doing stuff like alternating Tor/TOR etc. if he was using his real name/ | 08:03 |
| eudoxia | ?* | 08:03 |
| eudoxia | those newsweek people should feel bad for doxing a random family | 08:04 |
| eudoxia | </rant> | 08:04 |
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| chris_99 | why would he acknowledge working on it though | 08:24 |
| heath | any idea how much omgubuntu is making in advertisements? | 08:39 |
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| kanzure | chris_99: i think that quote is probably fake because the police officer quote is fake | 09:01 |
| chris_99 | is it? | 09:01 |
| kanzure | you're telling me a random police officer happens to know about bitcoin? | 09:02 |
| chris_99 | not that unusual | 09:02 |
| chris_99 | it's on the news all the time here | 09:02 |
| kanzure | and you're telling me that a police officer uses the word "humble"? | 09:02 |
| chris_99 | sure why not | 09:03 |
| kanzure | what amount of journalistic bullshit would it take to convince you otherwise | 09:04 |
| chris_99 | so the word humble is a key denominator against a quote being genuine? | 09:05 |
| MPR | well i mean | 09:08 |
| kanzure | given the context yes. you want me to believe that a police officer knew about bitcoin and its pseduonymous author and then also say something about humbleness. | 09:08 |
| MPR | there's a difference between "knowing about bitcoin" | 09:08 |
| MPR | and "knowing that bitcoin's creator is satoshi nakamoto and has a shitload of unspent money" | 09:08 |
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| chris_99 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_relativity is very intriguing | 11:57 |
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| archels | looks like there's critical mass to start a local hackerspace! | 13:10 |
| * archels just got back from meeting | 13:10 | |
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| archels | now we need to get off our backsides and do... stuff | 13:15 |
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| pete4242 | If people can start hackspaces... could we also start new cities / societies / countries ? I wonder if it's possible. | 14:33 |
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| kanzure | pete4242: are you really not aware of micronations and seasteads | 14:47 |
| kanzure | pete4242: i think you're being intentionally acute | 14:47 |
| kanzure | pete4242: given your statements on other related subjects | 14:47 |
| pete4242 | Yeah. Have any been successful? Not very, I guess. | 14:48 |
| pete4242 | What do you mean by 'intentionally acute' ? | 14:48 |
| pete4242 | I want a makespace/startup to get google rich and declare sovereignty. Will it ever happen? | 14:50 |
| ParahSailin | yeah normally its obtuse | 14:50 |
| pete4242 | what is? | 14:50 |
| pete4242 | oh. acute | 14:51 |
| pete4242 | maybe he meant obtuse? | 14:51 |
| pete4242 | And which statements do you refer to? | 14:51 |
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| kanzure | i didn't mean obtuse | 14:54 |
| kanzure | i meant "trying to act oblivious but actually failing at it" | 14:54 |
| pete4242 | Why would I want to act oblivious? | 14:54 |
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| kanzure | trolls operate in a very similar way to extract the behaviors they want to see | 14:54 |
| pete4242 | You think I'm a troll? | 14:55 |
| kanzure | i didn't say that, fuck you | 14:55 |
| * pete4242 looks confused | 14:55 | |
| pete4242 | Have you tried meditating? | 14:55 |
| ParahSailin | haha | 14:56 |
| pete4242 | and if you don't think I'm a troll, what do you think my M.O is? | 14:56 |
| kanzure | are you genuinely interested in my opinions about meditation, or are you asking if i have meditated about whether or not i think you're a troll, or are you asking if i've tried meditation in the context of the conversation we're having. | 14:56 |
| kanzure | i think you are using a behavior that is extremely similar to trolling | 14:57 |
| kanzure | you really expect me to think that you're unaware of micronations? | 14:57 |
| pete4242 | Nope. I've no idea why you would think that. | 14:58 |
| pete4242 | I'm curious about everything | 14:58 |
| kanzure | your question about nations was very poorly formed given any knowledge you might have about micronations | 14:58 |
| kanzure | usually people do not pretend to know less than they actually do unless they have alterior motives | 14:58 |
| pete4242 | What would be a better formed question? | 14:59 |
| kanzure | 14:33 < pete4242> If people can start hackspaces... could we also start new cities / societies / countries ? I wonder if it's possible. | 14:59 |
| kanzure | "Has anyone started a nation ever?" the answer is yes, so please don't ask that one | 14:59 |
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| pete4242 | It's not the same question. | 14:59 |
| kanzure | "Can a person start new cities, societies, countries" you can't seriously think that cities have just "existed" on their own without human intervention | 15:00 |
| kanzure | i hate you already | 15:00 |
| pete4242 | I was more asking can WE do it. Now. | 15:01 |
| kanzure | are you asking permission? | 15:01 |
| pete4242 | Why do you hate me? | 15:01 |
| kanzure | because you're inefficient at words and your ideas are poorly formed so far | 15:01 |
| pete4242 | 'inefficient at words'? Did you actually say that. | 15:02 |
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| kanzure | yes | 15:02 |
| pete4242 | I like you. | 15:02 |
| cpopell | pete4242: Cities form where they are important to form. Unless you have large quantities of money to force an industry into a location and have a city build up around you, it's unlikely at the moment. | 15:03 |
| kanzure | tautological | 15:03 |
| cpopell | Well, yeah. | 15:03 |
| kanzure | thanks for the stunning addition to the conversation | 15:03 |
| pete4242 | I don't understand 'important to form' | 15:03 |
| pete4242 | I think kanz lacks empathy. Not surprising. | 15:04 |
| cpopell | pete4242: Nexuses of trade, major companies clustering with supporting industries and individuals, school clusters, etc. There's been a lot of city growth in outlying areas of DC (up to 30-35 miles away) due to increase in industry in DC itself, e.g. (though that could just be metro growth) | 15:04 |
| kanzure | pete4242: just because i hate you doesn't mean i lack empathy | 15:05 |
| kanzure | pete4242: btw, that line of reasoning is why i fucking hate you | 15:05 |
| pete4242 | It was just a guess. There was no reasoning. | 15:06 |
| kanzure | so you're just choosing sentences to write at random? | 15:06 |
| pete4242 | there must be people you hate more, so I can take heart. | 15:06 |
| pete4242 | Sometimes complex data appears random to the untrained eye. | 15:07 |
| kanzure | i bet your meditation cap told you that my empathy is worthless to you | 15:07 |
| pete4242 | I have a meditation cap!? | 15:08 |
| pete4242 | Is that a cap I wear or like a data cap? | 15:08 |
| pete4242 | either way it's an interesting idea | 15:08 |
| kanzure | i highly doubt that you're unaware of the meditation caps out there | 15:09 |
| pete4242 | I am! | 15:09 |
| pete4242 | I hate spiritualism nonsense | 15:09 |
| pete4242 | you are not worthless to me. | 15:10 |
| pete4242 | everyone can be harnessed | 15:10 |
| kanzure | i didn't say you thought that i was worthless to you, what the fuck! | 15:10 |
| kanzure | fucking hell why do you suck so much | 15:10 |
| pete4242 | I didn't say you said that! | 15:10 |
| pete4242 | define suck. | 15:11 |
| kanzure | then why do you say these words | 15:11 |
| pete4242 | you're reading more into it than is there. | 15:11 |
| kanzure | maybe you should put more thought into what you say | 15:11 |
| pete4242 | you're looking for some hidden motive that doesn't exist. | 15:11 |
| kanzure | that way other people are able to extract meaning | 15:11 |
| kanzure | i assume you are trying to communicate with me | 15:11 |
| pete4242 | hehe | 15:11 |
| kanzure | this is my baseline assumption for all communication between n-parties | 15:11 |
| pete4242 | Are you not having fun? | 15:13 |
| pete4242 | I can't tell if you're actually angry, or if you just think it's cool to sound angry. | 15:13 |
| kanzure | forget about whether or not i am angry and please try to read my actual sentences | 15:14 |
| pete4242 | What are you trying to say? That you don't like me? That's all I've understood so far. Not sure WHY you'd tell me this, though. | 15:14 |
| dingo | :D | 15:14 |
| kanzure | dingo: sup.. | 15:15 |
| dingo | hey sup, just checked in and see you're upsetting people, you're so good at that :-) | 15:15 |
| pete4242 | thanks. | 15:15 |
| kanzure | dingo: yeah we get a lot of these types of trolls around here | 15:17 |
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| pete4242 | So you _are_ calling me a troll!? | 15:17 |
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| dingo | i think this all began because of the word troll, scrolling up | 15:18 |
| dingo | that set it off | 15:18 |
| @kanzure | scroll earlier | 15:18 |
| @kanzure | more upwards direction | 15:18 |
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| @kanzure | no please just stay gone :| | 15:18 |
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| @kanzure | dingo: it's possible that you're right, but that leading question behavior (by intentionally excluding information you already have) is just not something i'm interested in supporting here | 15:21 |
| @kanzure | s/but that/but that earlier | 15:21 |
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| pete4242 | Sometimes it's good not to bias people. | 15:22 |
| @kanzure | well you're doing a stunningly bad job at it | 15:23 |
| pete4242 | You don't know what my motives are. | 15:24 |
| @kanzure | that's not a valid response to my statement | 15:25 |
| pete4242 | You're not a computer. | 15:25 |
| pete4242 | Try to guess what I'm thinking. | 15:26 |
| pete4242 | It makes conversations more efficient. | 15:26 |
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| nuba | jeesh... people with too much time in their hands, no depth and trying to talk meta... | 15:28 |
| ParahSailin | three's a charm | 15:29 |
| @kanzure | i'm not familiar with that phrase | 15:30 |
| nuba | this "Try to guess what I'm thinking." made me laught | 15:30 |
| nuba | laugh* | 15:31 |
| @kanzure | laught must be the british spelling | 15:31 |
| nuba | kanzure: "i spy with my little eye something... blue! what am I thinking?" haha | 15:33 |
| nuba | thats the level of that talk. | 15:34 |
| nuba | alright, back to mostly-lurking mode again.. | 15:36 |
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| @kanzure | is there a scifi story where someone has explored the implementation of karma. i would assume this is probably a nanotech story somewhere. | 22:46 |
| agenor3k | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs00253-009-2223-1?LI=true#page-1 | 22:46 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Tolerance%20and%20stress%20response%20to%20ethanol%20in%20the%20yeast%20Saccharomyces%20cerevisiae.pdf | 22:46 |
| bkero | kanzure: Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom? | 22:47 |
| agenor3k | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00253-012-4248-0 | 22:47 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Engineering%20yeasts%20for%20raw%20starch%20conversion.pdf | 22:48 |
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| agenor3k | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jctb.4068/pdf | 22:49 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/60427884aae048512acb9d06542f4a4e.txt | 22:49 |
| agenor3k | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jctb.4068/abstract;jsessionid=D3777181C6E3AE33B34A0476CFE9A419.f03t04?deniedAccessCustomisedMessage=&userIsAuthenticated=false | 22:49 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dde8ced86979768fe358cb1613db2560.txt | 22:49 |
| agenor3k | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jctb.4068/full | 22:50 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/b89e41db0aedb9156eccc408155105ef.txt | 22:50 |
| @kanzure | agenor3k: hello | 22:50 |
| agenor3k | Howdy | 22:51 |
| @kanzure | what brings you here | 22:51 |
| agenor3k | an interest in next-generation biotechnology | 22:52 |
| agenor3k | you? | 22:53 |
| @kanzure | i forget, something about doing things | 22:53 |
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| agenor3k | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10482-013-0030-2 | 23:01 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Stress%20tolerance%20and%20growth%20physiology%20of%20yeast%20strains%20from%20the%20Brazilian%20fuel%20ethanol%20industry.pdf | 23:01 |
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