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| kanzure | jrayhawk: iirc translation-server was just a local copy of the same thing upstream, so it probably does not matter | 07:07 |
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| kanzure | just[dead]: those commits are transcripts. i type things sometims: http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/ | 07:07 |
| kanzure | just[dead]: wasn't meant to look like a markov chain bot's output | 07:08 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: someone invited me to an animal training science seminar thing in denton, texas so i went and listened | 07:09 |
| kanzure | *sometimes | 07:09 |
| kanzure | also, you guys are terribly boring without me | 07:09 |
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| justanotheruser | kanzure: you wrote this? https://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=61ef1f90 | 08:01 |
| justanotheruser | I guess I should have checked the author | 08:01 |
| eudoxia | they've been exposed to some weird memes | 08:02 |
| justanotheruser | Didn't realize you were into dog training :p | 08:02 |
| kanzure | shrug.. i went with a girl. | 08:02 |
| eudoxia | maybe he wants to train the dogs, upload them, and see if the training sticks | 08:03 |
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| eudoxia | you heard it here first folks | 08:03 |
| kanzure | there was a surprising number of people that knew about deep brain stimulation (for doggies) | 08:09 |
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| kanzure | *suprising | 08:13 |
| kanzure | it would be interesting to have something like this for dogs http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/664a7fef7c56221148ab75759d29f431.pdf | 08:26 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://findlab.stanford.edu/Publications/Parvizi_Neuron.pdf | 08:29 |
| kanzure | "The will to persevere induced by electrical stimulation of the human cingulate gyrus" | 08:29 |
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| eudoxia | kanzure: the first paper doesn't seem to list a single good thing in the 'cognitive' column | 08:35 |
| eudoxia | it's like a stroke simulator | 08:35 |
| kanzure | i'm a little surprised that arbitrary electrical stimulation in the brain hasn't caused deaths | 08:36 |
| kanzure | or maybe those go unreported? | 08:36 |
| eudoxia | i don't know about death, but at least permanent damage of some kind | 08:38 |
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| kanzure | paperbot: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1307.2196.pdf | 08:41 |
| * kanzure pokes paperbot | 08:43 | |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/a804d2f94dd7ee259cdbdfd8c7bff4b0.pdf | 08:43 |
| dbolser | I think if a death like state is induced, they turn it off | 08:44 |
| dbolser | and the brain reboots | 08:44 |
| kanzure | maybe the brain is highly resistant to arbitrary stimulation | 08:44 |
| dbolser | you'd hope it's got good noise protection | 08:45 |
| * eudoxia waited for paperbot to deliver Parvizi_Neuron.pdf before he realized | 08:45 | |
| kanzure | oh good, someone has finally tested transcranial ultrasound on humans http://postlab.psych.wisc.edu/files/5413/9092/5377/legon_etal_natneuro.pdf | 08:48 |
| dbolser | kanzure: publicly | 08:49 |
| dbolser | I@m sure they do it all the tiem in gitmo | 08:49 |
| kanzure | what does gitmo have to do with transcranial ultrasound? | 08:50 |
| eudoxia | lol why would they use gitmo and not some underground black site in virginia | 08:51 |
| eudoxia | more convenient | 08:51 |
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| WORLDWARTHREE | as if that doesnt happen | 08:56 |
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| kanzure | oh yeah there was http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/neuro/ultrasound/Transcranial%20ultrasound%20(TUS)%20effects%20on%20mental%20states%20-%20a%20pilot%20study%20-%20Stuart%20Hameroff%20-%202012.pdf | 09:03 |
| kanzure | forgot about that one :| | 09:04 |
| dbolser | transcranial stimulation... ur doin it rong | 09:07 |
| kanzure | why? | 09:07 |
| dbolser | just a random thougth that popped into my head... | 09:08 |
| dbolser | it was supposed to be a joke | 09:08 |
| dbolser | you can trust me, it's funny, so just laugh | 09:08 |
| kanzure | i am laughing on the inside where it hurts | 09:09 |
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| kanzure | superkuh: "A quantitative overview of biophysical forces governing neural function" http://arxiv.org/pdf/1309.6277.pdf | 09:10 |
| kanzure | superkuh: this might be weaker than the other material you had collected, though | 09:11 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/igemsoftware | 09:12 |
| kanzure | apparently igem.org requires their teams to submit software to their account on github | 09:12 |
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| justanotheruser | kanzure: are you ever worried about the legal implications of running paperbot? | 09:13 |
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| kanzure | justanotheruser: no | 09:14 |
| justanotheruser | ok | 09:14 |
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| kanzure | http://yasep.org/ "The abstract architecture is specified with JavaScript+HTML, which generates the VHDL source code (suitable for FPGA and ASIC). Actel's ProASIC3 is the targeted technology, other brands will come later" | 10:11 |
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| nmz787_i | jrayhawk: I beeped at you on skyline on saturday | 10:50 |
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| ParahSailin | hm http://jsperf.com/trig-functions-vs-lookup-table | 11:57 |
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| Zhwazi | Why are they looping instead of doing something like a bsearch? | 12:22 |
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| Zhwazi | If you have precomputed trig tables, why not presort them so you don't have to compare against every element? | 12:23 |
| jrayhawk | nmz787_i: oh, we were wondering if that was a horn or some sort of very strange bird | 12:26 |
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| ParahSailin | Zhwazi: what? | 12:41 |
| chris_99 | i was confused by that too | 12:42 |
| Zhwazi | ParahSailin: Looking at the JS trig thing it looks like it iterates and compares to find a match rather than doing a proper search where you split it in half each time. | 12:42 |
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| chris_99 | it's just testing iterating through lots of values to benchmark isn't it | 12:42 |
| ParahSailin | yeah | 12:42 |
| Zhwazi | Oh | 12:43 |
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| heath | paperbot: http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2014/lc/c4lc00020j#!divAbstract | 15:34 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Microfluidics%20for%20Electronic%20Paper-like%20Displays.pdf | 15:35 |
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| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traitorous_eight "At some point he sent the entire lab for a lie detector test, though everyone refused.[28][51]" | 15:43 |
| eudoxia | you'd think it'd be spelt 'treitorous' | 15:44 |
| eudoxia | 'traitorous' sounds like a Scala class with too many traits | 15:45 |
| eudoxia | oh wait 'traitor' is spelt 'traitor', what was i thinking | 15:47 |
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| dingo | ha | 15:58 |
| dingo | sounds more like a ruby or node thing, something over-spelled and over-engineered | 15:59 |
| dingo | traitorous | 15:59 |
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| eudoxia | not japanese enough to be a ruby thing | 15:59 |
| eudoxia | too many vowels to be a node thing | 16:00 |
| kanzure | dingo: aptly named too.. it should be a ruby library for randomly deleting chef recipes. | 16:03 |
| dingo | oh don't even start. i had such a bogged down 2.5 days labor over the past week on chef. | 16:04 |
| kanzure | i am really liking packer + docker | 16:04 |
| dingo | yeah both of those are good things, i agree. | 16:04 |
| kanzure | and http://orchardup.github.io/fig/index.html | 16:05 |
| kanzure | with packer you can build your own arbitrary base container | 16:06 |
| kanzure | and then rebuilding a container with updated code is 1-2 seconds instead of a full box build | 16:06 |
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| dingo | each time i bump into a chef issue, i decide, ok, i can either re-engineer a solution entirely outside of chef, or fix what seems to be a minor chef issue... and i keep chosing the minor chef issue, but they always pyramid into longer and larger issues than i first imagined. | 16:07 |
| dingo | when its all said and done, i say, i wish i had re-engineered it. | 16:07 |
| kanzure | congrats you have discovered er.. what's the name of this bias. | 16:07 |
| dingo | its like catching the end of the rainbow, always seems not much farther | 16:07 |
| eudoxia | confirmation? | 16:07 |
| kanzure | confirmation bias doesn't work, he already knows chef is shit | 16:07 |
| kanzure | sunk costs? | 16:08 |
| kanzure | "just one more bug" bias | 16:09 |
| kanzure | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias | 16:12 |
| dingo | ive learned chef is just overengineered shell scripts, has the same level of 'intelligence', that is, none. i think chef would be better replaced with http://fuckingshellscripts.org/ | 16:13 |
| eudoxia | what a funny name, optimism bias | 16:13 |
| eudoxia | >because you just use fucking shell scripts. | 16:14 |
| eudoxia | >Step 0: Install the gem | 16:14 |
| kanzure | "the 'i like being alive' bias" | 16:14 |
| jrayhawk | yak shaving | 16:14 |
| kanzure | yeah, step 0 seems to break the whole philosophy | 16:14 |
| kanzure | i can't tell if yak shaving is your answer to the name of the bias or your response to fuckingshellscripts.org | 16:15 |
| kanzure | also they embed aws secret keys into yaml files in your git repo | 16:16 |
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| poppingt` | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.disc.2009.09.023 | 16:20 |
| jrayhawk | i can't remember if it was douglas adams or scott adams who would characteize something as "superficial problems masking fundamental problems" | 16:21 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/4a197fa90b0aebdf6ce3bdf0611a7675.txt | 16:21 |
| jrayhawk | characterize | 16:21 |
| dingo | i like the sound of that | 16:22 |
| kanzure | i bet there's going to be a lucrative career path for a while for anyone willing to clean up chef messes | 16:23 |
| jrayhawk | The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, in a moment of reasoned lucidity which is almost unique among its current tally of five million, nine hundred and seventy-three thousand, five hundred and nine pages, says of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation products that "it is very easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of them by the sense of achievement you get from getting them to work at all." In other words, - and this is the rock-solid ... | 16:24 |
| jrayhawk | ... principle on which the whole of the Corporation's Galaxywide success is founded - their fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design flaws. -Douglas Adams | 16:24 |
| jrayhawk | "rearranging deck chairs on the titanic" is the popular rendering, i guess | 16:25 |
| kanzure | i would argue that most fundamental design flaws are hidden in most things anyway | 16:26 |
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| Lemminkainen | paperbot http://www.nature.com/nrmicro/journal/v1/n2/pdf/nrmicro753.pdf | 17:35 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnrmicro753 | 17:36 |
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| dingo | < kanzure> i bet there's going to be a lucrative career path for a while for anyone willing to clean up chef messes | 18:17 |
| dingo | there is still lucrative careers for cleaning up perl sysadmin messes | 18:18 |
| dingo | its the new legacy | 18:18 |
| dingo | i think this is what sysadmins just do best | 18:18 |
| dingo | turning their production operations into a code & science experiment | 18:18 |
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| eudoxia | if you want a picture of the future, imagine vinge's programmer-archaeologists | 18:22 |
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