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| kanzure | http://p2pfoundation.net/Therapy_Futures | 09:13 |
| kanzure | http://www.pccs-books.co.uk/products/regulating-the-psychological-therapies-from-taxonomy-to-taxidermy/#.Uz2IyVRDs-P | 09:14 |
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| ParahSailin | "I'm hacking my microbiome" i hate this shit | 09:39 |
| ParahSailin | you derped around and got statistically insignificant bullshit data | 09:40 |
| kanzure | poop transfer is a perfectly valid way of microbiome hacking | 09:42 |
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| FourFire | kanzure, I've heard of that type of medical treatment | 10:21 |
| kanzure | uh yeah, medical treatment sure | 10:24 |
| EnLilaSko | lol | 10:25 |
| EnLilaSko | I love how some people are doing it at home | 10:25 |
| EnLilaSko | "We collect poop, run it through a mixer, then give you a poo enema" | 10:26 |
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| cluckj | there's an FDA hearing on fecal transplants soon | 10:50 |
| dingo | thats one hearing i'd watch | 10:51 |
| cluckj | one of my friends is involved | 10:51 |
| cluckj | it should be a hoot | 10:51 |
| FourFire | EnLilaSko, yeah, microbiome does stuff for obesity and some allergies or somethign | 10:51 |
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| kanzure | pretty dumb method but here's a dump of p2pfoundation: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/p2pfoundation/xmldump/ | 12:15 |
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| kanzure | page titles are pretty weird "Anti-Semetic Distributed Libraries" | 12:19 |
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| jrayhawk_ | http://chriskresser.com/all-about-fecal-microbiota-transplants | 12:24 |
| kanzure | i don't think there's any backups of p2pfoundation's wiki | 12:25 |
| kanzure | also based on all these titles, i'm not convinced these pages are linked together at all | 12:26 |
| jrayhawk_ | http://github.com/mithro/media2iki if'n you care | 12:26 |
| kanzure | yep i know of it, but iirc it doesn't have a method of exporting the full set of page names | 12:27 |
| kanzure | so i wrote my own script to do that part | 12:27 |
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| kanzure | also Special:Export breaks when exporting too much content on an over-utilized server | 12:28 |
| kanzure | so i had to get each set of pages in chunks :| | 12:28 |
| kanzure | but yes it should be converted to git shouldn't it | 12:28 |
| kanzure | sort of stupid to run a wiki about p2pstuff on mediawiki | 12:29 |
| jrayhawk_ | haha | 12:29 |
| jrayhawk_ | man, we should shoot for maximum irony by trying to fork that shit to git and having them complain about it | 12:29 |
| kanzure | michel bauwens is very accepting | 12:30 |
| kanzure | it would take a very huge amount of irony to phase him.. hrm. | 12:30 |
| kanzure | if you are bored would you be interested in running media2iki over the xml files and preparing a git repo? | 12:32 |
| jrayhawk_ | probably not today, but i should learn the ins and outs of that at some point | 12:32 |
| kanzure | there's about 23,000 articles | 12:33 |
| kanzure | all in the same namespace | 12:33 |
| jrayhawk_ | well that's convenient | 12:33 |
| jrayhawk_ | certainly a lot more convenient than the damned freedesktop.org wikis were | 12:33 |
| kanzure | oh yeah and then there's the stupid formatting conversion? | 12:34 |
| jrayhawk_ | not necessarily; ikiwiki has a plugin for the mediawiki markup. | 12:34 |
| kanzure | i can't decide whether to interpret that as good or bad news | 12:35 |
| kanzure | "Evgeny Morozov on the Spinternet" ughhhh | 12:36 |
| kanzure | "Evolving from Egocentric Competition via Sociocentric Collaboration to Worldcentric and Kosmocentric Collaboration" | 12:36 |
| kanzure | are these people 4real | 12:36 |
| kanzure | "Extreme Energy Initiative" | 12:36 |
| cluckj | are these randomly generated page names... | 12:40 |
| kanzure | nope, they are straight from a dump of http://p2pfoundation.net/ | 12:40 |
| kanzure | "Ian MacKenzie and Pravin Pillay on the Epistemology and Spirituality of Occupy Wall Street" | 12:40 |
| kanzure | "Michel Nielsen and Michael Vassar on the Epistemology for Online Science" | 12:41 |
| kanzure | aaahhhh fucking vassar | 12:41 |
| kanzure | he is everywhere | 12:41 |
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| kanzure | in my wikis, in my ircs, in my car, etc. | 12:41 |
| cluckj | http://p2pfoundation.net/Ian_MacKenzie_and_Pravin_Pillay_on_the_Epistemology_and_Spirituality_of_Occupy_Wall_Street | 12:41 |
| kanzure | "and how your mind has become occupied" | 12:42 |
| kanzure | well it's become something | 12:42 |
| cluckj | hah | 12:43 |
| cluckj | filled with a bunch of garbage links? | 12:43 |
| cluckj | like that wiki... | 12:43 |
| kanzure | "Mutually Assured Production" | 12:44 |
| kanzure | "brought to you by the paranoid schizophrenic that put kanzure in charge of some mailing list" | 12:44 |
| kanzure | (nathan cravens) | 12:44 |
| kanzure | http://p2pfoundation.net/Mutually_Assured_Production | 12:44 |
| cluckj | hah | 12:44 |
| cluckj | seems legit | 12:45 |
| kanzure | there's no accounting for dupes, | 12:45 |
| kanzure | http://p2pfoundation.net/Nathan_Cravens | 12:45 |
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| kanzure | oh good they are redirects nevermind | 12:46 |
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| kanzure | i think the entire namespace is repeated under the "Open" prefix | 12:47 |
| kanzure | "Open-Source Decentralized Personal Semantic Web Database Communicator" | 12:48 |
| cluckj | lol the anti-semetic distributed libraries is anti-systemic | 12:49 |
| cluckj | :P | 12:50 |
| kanzure | whoops | 12:50 |
| cluckj | freudian slip? | 12:50 |
| kanzure | i was trying to go for comedy value | 12:50 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk_: interesting to note that the main piece of evidence one might use to guess whether or not i've seen media2iki is to note that apparently i was the last committer | 12:53 |
| cluckj | well it has to do with the semitic web, apparently | 12:53 |
| jrayhawk_ | haha, d'oh | 12:55 |
| ParahSailin | @diybio thread: false, geological co2 sequestration diminishes the heat rate of a coal plant by 6-8% | 12:55 |
| kanzure | geeze the media2iki steps are annoying | 12:56 |
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| kanzure | so the flattening that media2iki wants doesn't seem to work on this xml dump | 14:28 |
| kanzure | juri_: it uses xsltproc. is this something you're still aware of and could poke at? | 14:28 |
| kanzure | maybe it's a lie and the "flattening" isn't required. i don't see why formatting it like this makes it easier for xml parsers to handle: <revision> <title>first page</title> <id>1</id> <text>bla</text> </revision> (without newlines) | 14:29 |
| kanzure | (besides, what happens when there's a newline in the text content?) | 14:29 |
| kanzure | if i happen to stupidly use https authentication when i git push somewhere i haven't configured my agent to work yet, does git cache the https authentication stuff anywhere? | 14:41 |
| kanzure | oh right, well, the ssh agent wont wokr with https authentication anyway. but the point is that i would use git+ssh if i did. | 14:42 |
| kanzure | *work | 14:42 |
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| kanzure | have i mentioned how much i dislike mediawiki | 15:07 |
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| jrayhawk_ | there's no 'caching' to speak of, but you can staticly configure stuff (see: git-config(1) ) and set up authentication daemons (see: gitcredentials(7) ) | 16:22 |
| jrayhawk_ | i don't think you can agentize SSL authentication securely for use with git | 16:23 |
| jrayhawk_ | actually, i guess that's not true. you can fake it with stunnel or socat or something. | 16:24 |
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| eudoxia | i really don't get these wikis that are full of (1) three sentence articles that are usually just an external link and (2) massive walls of text copypasted from blogs | 17:35 |
| eudoxia | i mean, external links are not forever, but there's the archive for that. come on | 17:35 |
| eudoxia | the p2p wiki and the OSE wiki suffer from those two exact problems, ugh | 17:36 |
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| kanzure | #2 is because nobody trusts internet archive | 20:19 |
| kanzure | "you are what you cache" (or what you don't cache) | 20:19 |
| kanzure | #1 is probably because all of the articles are all created by michel bauwens applying the process of "take email, convert to mediawiki wiki article page entry" | 20:19 |
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| kanzure | Server is slow... Waiting some seconds and retrying... | 20:21 |
| kanzure | An error has occurred while retrieving "P2P_Energy_Economy" | 20:21 |
| kanzure | Please, resume the dump, --resume | 20:22 |
| kanzure | argh once again marc fawzi strikes again | 20:22 |
| juri_ | kanzure: certainly. | 20:22 |
| juri_ | however, i'm past up to my eyeballs. bitca.mp + about ten new people joined my fosscar project. | 20:22 |
| juri_ | AKA, its a project, not just a couple of people wihing its a project. and they're looking to me for leadership. | 20:22 |
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| ParahSailin | http://libgen.org:8080/scimag/?s=10.1126/scitranslmed.3008002 | 22:35 |
| ParahSailin | http://libgen.org:8080/scimag/?s=10.1126/science.1250161 | 22:35 |
| juri_ | so, make your case for why you're more important than implicitcad, linuxpmi, fosscar, createvm, and gnugift. :) | 22:41 |
| juri_ | or, as i've started calling it, "the tachikoma project". | 22:41 |
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