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| jrayhawk_ | man, that guy is freakin' ready for the post-apocalypse | 00:54 |
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| mosasaur | it's difficult to prepare for a post-apocalypse if it can take so many forms | 01:02 |
| EnLilaSko | Just zombies or aliens | 01:02 |
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| jrayhawk_ | don't forget paperclip optimizers | 01:15 |
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| mosasaur | any paperclip optimizer smart enough to be somewhat effective will hack their utility function | 01:15 |
| jrayhawk_ | new utility function: destroy all humans | 01:15 |
| mosasaur | nah, still a utility function. It will keep hacking them until it's something else. | 01:15 |
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| mosasaur | ofc that may happen after humans are extinct | 01:27 |
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| ||0_-_0|| | paperbot http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1697402 | 01:28 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2F346818a0 | 01:28 |
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| Stevko | paperbot: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01580223 | 07:27 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/c3ca72faf9b0ae99828ba41249baf6f9.txt | 07:27 |
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| kanzure | https://github.com/pminervini/node-rtlsdr | 09:05 |
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| JayDugger | paperbot:http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10350930 | 10:22 |
| JayDugger | paperbot | 10:22 |
| JayDugger | paperbot http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10350930 | 10:22 |
| kanzure | hm maybe it broke | 10:28 |
| JayDugger | No worries. I have enough other papers to read. | 10:36 |
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| chris_99 | nmz787, you about? | 10:38 |
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| kanzure | huh, the market is much larger than i anticipated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_volcanoes | 10:49 |
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| ParahSailin | market? | 11:00 |
| kanzure | volcano real estate | 11:01 |
| nmz787 | chris_99: hi | 11:10 |
| chris_99 | hey, i was just wondering what power co2 laser you used for the PCBs you mentiond a while back | 11:10 |
| chris_99 | with the black paint | 11:10 |
| nmz787 | mmm | 11:12 |
| nmz787 | it was one of those Las Vegas converted from chinese lasers | 11:12 |
| chris_99 | was it a chinese laser cutter you mean | 11:12 |
| chris_99 | one of the small ones | 11:13 |
| nmz787 | ahh http://fslaser.com/ | 11:13 |
| nmz787 | I think it was a 40W | 11:13 |
| nmz787 | a 25W would likely work though | 11:13 |
| nmz787 | as the point was just to convert the paint to ash | 11:13 |
| chris_99 | gotcha that's about normal for the mini cutters | 11:13 |
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| nmz787 | can anyone in here get me this? http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07328319108046457#.U6Xg7vldXEn | 12:45 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07328319108046457#.U6Xg7vldXEn | 12:45 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/dc3634b8805ca546fadcae1fc60748d1.txt | 12:45 |
| nmz787 | i thought so | 12:45 |
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| heath | i don't get the point of ionic still | 13:25 |
| heath | and i don't understand why app.js is converted to an html file by cordova | 13:25 |
| * heath is, as you can tell, a fantastic mobile dev | 13:25 | |
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| kanzure | joepie91_: hi | 16:14 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: in the abi 391 manual on pg 230 they actually show exploded views | 16:21 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: i can see Zilog on pg 233 | 16:22 |
| kanzure | yes? | 16:30 |
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| kanzure | so let's see.. | 17:02 |
| kanzure | .wa 1920 * 1080 * 30 | 17:02 |
| kanzure | assuming 30 bp per oligo | 17:02 |
| yoleaux | 1920×1080×30: 62208000; Scientific notation: 6.2208 × 10⁷; Number name: 62 million 208 thousand; Number line: http://is.gd/ybCmtC; Number length: 8 decimal digits | 17:02 |
| kanzure | is 30 bp enough to do correct assembly of 2 million strands? | 17:02 |
| kanzure | needs 7 bp on either end, right? | 17:05 |
| kanzure | *both ends | 17:05 |
| jrayhawk_ | speaking of which, the huell howser volcano house apparently went off the market in 2012 | 17:08 |
| jrayhawk_ | a bummer for all aspiring supervillains | 17:09 |
| kanzure | google has it all wrong, people don't want to be in san francisco | 17:09 |
| kanzure | they want to be living in a volcano | 17:10 |
| nmz787 | it seems like valve muxing would save significant reagent waste over a constant flow system | 17:12 |
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| kanzure | or you could just use less flow in the first place | 17:18 |
| kanzure | instead of using valves | 17:18 |
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| ParahSailin | ligating 30bp is just gonna make smear | 17:36 |
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| kanzure | how long | 17:37 |
| kanzure | gibson assembly requires 20-40 bp overlaps, hm | 17:38 |
| kanzure | seems a little high | 17:38 |
| dingo | is there a method i can use in setup.py to test whether or not the environment is capable of building C extensions to python? so that I could provide optional install_requires packages only if it passes such tests? | 18:19 |
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| kanzure | dingo: you can extend some of the commands (like install) to do things | 18:21 |
| kanzure | dingo: here's a messy example, http://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad/tree/master/setup.py | 18:21 |
| kanzure | in particular, command_subclass.run = modified_run | 18:21 |
| dingo | sure, sure, i know that one | 18:22 |
| kanzure | and CustomInstallCommand | 18:22 |
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| dingo | but is there some way to ask, "Can I build a C extension for python?" -- other than, I suppose, like a ./configure script -- actually trying it | 18:22 |
| kanzure | well, i would test in a before hook step, and then filter the list of requirements to exclude things that are c extensions | 18:22 |
| kanzure | so, the actual dependencies for c extensions are often not formally specified | 18:23 |
| kanzure | i believe the only requirement is $cc or something like that (for which compiler to use), and then whatever header flies that code might demand | 18:23 |
| kanzure | dunno if it's literally $cc or $CXXCOMPILERFLAG or w/e | 18:23 |
| dingo | well some users will tell me, they have cc -- but they didn't have "python-dev" package on debian or some such, missing Python.h, etc. | 18:23 |
| dingo | so testing for `which cc` isn't sufficient alone | 18:24 |
| kanzure | pkg-config? heh | 18:24 |
| dingo | yeah, i think it will be necessary to actually compile a mini test extension -- and only if it succeeds, then add 'paramiko' and 'bcrypt' to install_requires | 18:25 |
| dingo | my epic telnet bbs project now has ssh support, and has always had optional blowfish encryption of passwords supported | 18:25 |
| kanzure | paramiko has c extension requirements? | 18:25 |
| dingo | yeah, it depends on PyCrypto, which does | 18:26 |
| kanzure | aha | 18:26 |
| kanzure | python packaging su | 18:26 |
| kanzure | *sux | 18:26 |
| dingo | i know... you're telling me | 18:26 |
| kanzure | if you can manage it, you should campaign to replace everything with debian packaging | 18:26 |
| dingo | i'm the defacto PyInstaller for windows expert at work now | 18:26 |
| kanzure | pyinstaller still hehe | 18:26 |
| gradstudentbot | She keeps talking about her Nature paper, but she was only third author. | 18:27 |
| dingo | I think my project may have made it to ArchLinux | 18:27 |
| dingo | but thats any earlier pure python version anyway | 18:27 |
| kanzure | why did we use python packages anyway? | 18:27 |
| kanzure | we really should have just used .deb's or .rpm's | 18:27 |
| dingo | you talking about at my job? | 18:28 |
| kanzure | oh right, osx development.. | 18:28 |
| kanzure | yes | 18:28 |
| dingo | well we do use both .deb and .rpm for the final mega-project | 18:28 |
| kanzure | i keep forgetting about the osx developers. that makes things problematic. | 18:28 |
| kanzure | sure | 18:28 |
| kanzure | but for the python portions too | 18:28 |
| dingo | well theres a windows portion now too, you know | 18:28 |
| kanzure | la la la la not listening | 18:28 |
| dingo | i just helped finish windows secure direct migration this week | 18:28 |
| dingo | windows pe boots up, does the migraiton | 18:29 |
| kanzure | glad to hear there's progress | 18:29 |
| dingo | hence the need for the PyInstaller, we have a cli.exe | 18:29 |
| gradstudentbot | Wow, that would be a great sample to add to my collection. | 18:30 |
| dingo | management is talking about "cli.exe" like its some fucking magical thing, they don't even know what it is or what it stands for, or that its just 2 logical lines of python code | 18:30 |
| kanzure | haha | 18:30 |
| kanzure | don't tell them it's 2 lines, they won't understand that there was other work | 18:30 |
| dingo | i just regret not duplicating it to 'collector.exe' and 'target_worker.exe', they're all mega-confused about how cli.exe works in both sides of the equation | 18:31 |
| dingo | its an 11mb exe :) | 18:31 |
| dingo | i'm really trying to polish this turd up before i leave em | 18:32 |
| kanzure | i can see why they're confused, since they are probalby thinking of web applications | 18:33 |
| kanzure | and not desktop/server applications | 18:33 |
| kanzure | or applications that have network communication aspects beyond what it used to be | 18:34 |
| dingo | i got a new boss between our former one and myself ... he's a scientologist... nuff said ... | 18:34 |
| kanzure | that's hilarious that they reward you by pushing you further down the ladder | 18:35 |
| kanzure | when you leave, you should try the "do as little as humanly possible" philosophy | 18:35 |
| kanzure | and the "give wrong answers" "follow up at the wrong hours" etc | 18:35 |
| dingo | yeah im going to go like lin | 18:35 |
| kanzure | think of it as an experiment | 18:35 |
| kanzure | start sending thoughtful emails up the chain (bypass at least 2-3 bosses) | 18:36 |
| dingo | oh there's that game where you reply to every e-mail by including one more person | 18:36 |
| kanzure | oh yeah, and you win when the ceo gets included or something? | 18:37 |
| dingo | yup | 18:37 |
| kanzure | just curious.. how long does the unit test suite take these days? and how many tests | 18:38 |
| dingo | we've done pretty good.. let me see | 18:38 |
| dingo | 392 tests in 9 seconds -- for engine, 273 in 4 seconds in phore | 18:40 |
| kanzure | not bad at all | 18:40 |
| dingo | and theres a windows project with hundreds of tests i'm not really in the mood to boot up | 18:40 |
| kanzure | could be way worse | 18:40 |
| dingo | every bug or feature i author comes with tests -- there are of course those amatures who shit all over the codebase still, can't help them | 18:41 |
| kanzure | i've been having that problem elsewhere | 18:41 |
| kanzure | i can catch most stuff in code review, | 18:41 |
| dingo | the windows project even rejects the build if test coverage goes under 90% | 18:41 |
| kanzure | but it's really hard to convince people to totally redo their work | 18:41 |
| kanzure | without rewriting it for them | 18:41 |
| dingo | it also rejects build for any pyflakes and pylint issues | 18:41 |
| dingo | so its very pure and clean | 18:41 |
| dingo | it also means you can't throw 100 TODO items | 18:42 |
| dingo | i swear.. some of these kids.. can't write 5 lines of code without saying "TODO: I should have done this better, but i don't know how" | 18:42 |
| kanzure | # TODO: correct for gravitational constant once humanity figures out the value | 18:42 |
| dingo | if it weren't for these two other people, i would have already left -- i don't feel so much like its a losing battle | 18:44 |
| dingo | i like some of the folk -- but i would fire the lot of them, they cost more than they help when they write difficult to maintain code | 18:44 |
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| kanzure | can't fire me if i'm already gone :) | 18:45 |
| kanzure | hehe | 18:45 |
| dingo | i earnestly beleive just 3 or 4 great developers can do a colossal amount of work -- history shows C compilers, unix, all kinds of mega projects that were completed with just a handful of people | 18:45 |
| kanzure | yup, absolutely | 18:45 |
| kanzure | for every additional programmer added to a project, at least one year of your life expectancy is removed | 18:46 |
| dingo | i told the new scientologist manager this idea, and he replied, "Thats only true if your company is started out of a garage -- thats not true in the *real world*" | 18:46 |
| kanzure | good thing my garage isn't part of reality | 18:47 |
| dingo | i just dropped the subject, he's a former java developer, he probobly only knows mega-corperation software houses | 18:47 |
| catern | lol, "the real world" | 18:48 |
| dingo | that VV who sits by me has gone an entire 2 weeks without submitting a single thing to review, not a single thing, yet his editor is open all day | 18:48 |
| dingo | i submit on average 1 thing a day to review. some days my diffs are over 1,500 lines | 18:48 |
| catern | "that's only true if you're not employed by a company that pays people to interfere with you" | 18:48 |
| dingo | i bought a chess clock, a right and left side-mechanical timer, you know? | 18:49 |
| dingo | and i timed actual programming vs. bullshit distractions | 18:49 |
| dingo | average actual programming time between 9 and 5? about 30 minutes to 1 hour | 18:49 |
| kanzure | for yourself? | 18:49 |
| kanzure | i wouldn't be surprised | 18:49 |
| dingo | so now i just work in the evenings when everybody's gone, i can get in at least 4 hours of programming that way, sometimes the full 6 i feel i'm entitled to have | 18:49 |
| kanzure | would you believe me if i told you i was watching movies the whole time i was coding | 18:50 |
| dingo | i come in just before lunch, hehe | 18:50 |
| dingo | you got a warped attention span, don't tell me your process | 18:50 |
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| dingo | its inhuman | 18:50 |
| gradstudentbot | You know, I'd like to biopsy that butt. | 18:51 |
| kanzure | office life is weird anyway | 18:52 |
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| kanzure | ooh, how about we paint this on the side of the synthesizer: | 20:38 |
| kanzure | http://www.clipartbest.com/cliparts/Rcd/K4A/RcdK4Akgi.jpeg | 20:38 |
| kanzure | or if we want something more involved, http://ih3.redbubble.net/image.15027782.1633/fc,550x550,asphalt.u1.jpg | 20:39 |
| kanzure | safe enough yet? http://rmc205a.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/biohazard-suits.jpg | 20:42 |
| kanzure | damn how about this one http://thumb9.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/1059320/138565472/stock-vector-gas-mask-stencil-isolated-over-tatto-element-138565472.jpg | 20:43 |
| nmz787 | heh | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | more work??? | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | paint could foul the optics | 20:49 |
| nmz787 | ;) | 20:49 |
| kanzure | well, we could have someone else do it, dunno if it matters | 20:52 |
| kanzure | i think most of the panels are not functionally relevant | 20:52 |
| kanzure | so we could just ship one to some art dude | 20:52 |
| kanzure | doesn't have to be *paint* either | 20:53 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk_: maybe mike would be up to do a thing? | 21:00 |
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| joepie91_ | kanzure: yes, working on PDF stuffs :P | 22:33 |
| kanzure | coolio | 22:33 |
| joepie91_ | reading pdf.js codebase to understand exactly where to hook stuff in | 22:34 |
| joepie91_ | seems well-engineered, though I encountered some major WTFs in the colorspace department, but that's probably just not code used in production yet | 22:35 |
| joepie91_ | (stuff like a function that supposedly returns a boolean based on input data, but is hardcoded to return false, etc.) | 22:35 |
| kanzure | lolz "Oligos produced from microarrays are 2-4 orders of magnitude cheaper than column-based oligos, with costs ranging from $0.00001 - 0.001 per nucleotide." | 22:36 |
| kanzure | oh gen9bio.com is doing inkjet printing of phosphoramidite reagents | 22:38 |
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| kanzure | they are doing ~10,000 oligos per pool | 22:39 |
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