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| nmz787 | https://www.takeitapart.com/guide/94 | 04:07 |
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| nmz787 | .title | 04:07 |
| yoleaux | Applied Biosystems (ABI) 391 DNA Synthesizer PCR-MATE Guide | 04:08 |
| nmz787 | kanzure: ^ | 04:08 |
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| kanzure | "Hello Bryan, Joe Silva is a very longtime and dear friend of mine. He worked at Applied Biosciences at the time your synthesizer was produced. Perhaps he could provide some insights to you regarding its operation." | 08:16 |
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| kanzure | http://blog.erratasec.com/2014/07/jamming-xkeyscore_4.html | 09:16 |
| kanzure | courtesy of eleitl | 09:16 |
| ParahSailin | XR stimulants are the dumbest thing ever | 09:20 |
| eudoxia | >A character like < or ' might cause various problems in rendering on an HTML page or generating SQL queries. | 09:20 |
| eudoxia | ho ho ho boy let's see who's in which watchlist | 09:21 |
| kanzure | ParahSailin: they work pretty well for me, if i check the manufacturer before the pharmacy sells me it | 09:21 |
| ParahSailin | you prefer the xr? | 09:21 |
| kanzure | i take both | 09:22 |
| ParahSailin | all xr seems to do is insomnia | 09:22 |
| ParahSailin | these ones say barr | 09:24 |
| kanzure | only manufacture i've had problems with is actavis | 09:25 |
| ParahSailin | its works all right if i chew the little balls | 09:26 |
| kanzure | i think that defeats the point | 09:26 |
| kanzure | .py import requests; response = requests.get("http://httpbin.org/get"); print response.json() | 09:27 |
| yoleaux | ImportError: No module named requests | 09:27 |
| kanzure | dpk: notgood | 09:27 |
| ParahSailin | kanzure: precisely | 09:27 |
| dpk | i don't run .py | 09:27 |
| dpk | .py json.loads(get('http://httpbin.org/get')) | 09:28 |
| yoleaux | {u'origin': u'107.178.200.50', u'headers': {u'X-Request-Id': u'bef033b4-d3d4-49c6-9989-8faae5913a55', u'Connection': u'close', u'Host': u'httpbin.org', u'Accept-Encoding': u'gzip', u'User-Agent': u'Python-urllib/1.17 AppEngine-Google; (+http://code.google.com/appengine; appid: tumbolia)'}, u'args': {}, u'url': u'http://httpbin.org/get'} | 09:28 |
| kanzure | .py import lxml | 09:29 |
| yoleaux | ImportError: No module named lxml | 09:29 |
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| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/abi391/takeitapart/reasonable-size/ | 09:38 |
| kanzure | i suppose this is what i should be looking at: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/DNA/abi391/takeitapart/HtTrJYL_large.jpg | 09:40 |
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| kanzure | what's in image 25? | 10:02 |
| kanzure | in https://www.takeitapart.com/guide/94 | 10:02 |
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| kanzure | hmm netflix paid for a tsutomu nihei anime thing | 10:41 |
| kanzure | has the right look | 10:43 |
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| eudoxia | >I don’t know where else I’d have an opportunity to discuss nanotechnology, additive manufacturing, Haskell[2], and medicine all in the same day. | 11:22 |
| eudoxia | http://metamodern.com/2014/07/03/keynote-at-tvc-2014/ | 11:22 |
| eudoxia | i didn't know drexler was a haskeller | 11:23 |
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| kanzure | he's lying, i'm sure he knows many other mediums for that sort of discussion | 11:24 |
| eudoxia | i don't think he knows this channel | 11:25 |
| kanzure | there are still other places | 11:26 |
| kanzure | i somehow doubt he would be interested in irc | 11:26 |
| eudoxia | the ExI ML that is somehow still operating | 11:26 |
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| kanzure | well, no.. not that one. | 11:37 |
| kanzure | hm. | 11:37 |
| FourFire | kanzure, #lesswrong, though the focus is more on other weirdness there | 11:38 |
| kanzure | that's also irc though | 11:40 |
| kanzure | and in general they are unskilled | 11:40 |
| kanzure | uh, in nanotech stuff in particular | 11:40 |
| FourFire | kanzure, and you are? | 11:42 |
| kanzure | well, i'd like to pretend i have relevant experience because of maintaining nanoengineer | 11:43 |
| FourFire | I have to go, but I'd like to discuss this again sometime | 11:44 |
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| eudoxia | i should write something like a library for turning the mmp format into something more | 11:44 |
| eudoxia | uh, agnostic | 11:44 |
| kanzure | eudoxia, i have been thinking about nanoengineer battle plans lately | 11:44 |
| eudoxia | i'm listening | 11:45 |
| kanzure | in particular, the core models should be transitioned to inherit a base class like Model from https://github.com/kanzure/modelo | 11:45 |
| kanzure | the gui components should be stripped from there- it would be nice to get it to work in the same gui eventually, but i don't think that's a priority | 11:45 |
| kanzure | man i'm so confused why is there a nanoengineer/cad/src/libpython23.a.gz and nanoengineer/cad/src/libpython24.a.gz | 11:47 |
| kanzure | i thought i stripped those from the repository | 11:47 |
| kanzure | to reduce the size | 11:47 |
| eudoxia | right, the gui should probably be rewritten from scratch. i have no experience with OpenGL but don't think it will be extraordinarily hard to make something like the current GUI | 11:47 |
| eudoxia | as for the models, it might be possible (and desirable) to move them off to C++ | 11:48 |
| kanzure | i would rather use c instead of c++ | 11:48 |
| eudoxia | why do we need a custom internal representation of atoms when we have ObMol, ObAtom etc from OpenBabel? | 11:48 |
| kanzure | because that's the only thing this does other than a gui | 11:49 |
| eudoxia | kanzure: why? i definitely appreciate the simplicity of C but i don't like writing containers all the time | 11:49 |
| kanzure | in general the name mangling always comes back to bite me when i do c++ things | 11:49 |
| eudoxia | hm | 11:49 |
| kanzure | like downstream consumption of the library | 11:50 |
| kanzure | a very simple cleanup task is to replace all the stupid print statements with python logging | 11:50 |
| kanzure | i agree that openbabel things should be used | 11:51 |
| kanzure | http://openbabel.org/docs/current/UseTheLibrary/Python_Pybel.html | 11:52 |
| eudoxia | do you know where the linear/rotary motor stuff gets translates to GROMACS stuff? | 11:54 |
| kanzure | not really | 11:55 |
| eudoxia | ugh what was the name of the custom MM simulator NE used | 12:00 |
| eudoxia | nanosomething, not nanohive | 12:00 |
| kanzure | nanodynamics, nanohive, pick your poison | 12:00 |
| eudoxia | nanodynamics, that's it | 12:00 |
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| ||0_-_0|| | paperbot http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/la5004929 | 13:10 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1021%2Fla5004929 | 13:10 |
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| nmz787_a | Kanzure you shouldn't want those scraped images, they're cropped to something like 2k pixels per side | 13:34 |
| nmz787_a | Though the images straight from the camera are not well sorted or cropped nicely | 13:35 |
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| kanzure | the _large.jpg ones are cropped? | 13:37 |
| nmz787_a | Ya | 13:37 |
| nmz787_a | Pretty sure | 13:37 |
| nmz787_a | I think the camera is 8mpix native or so | 13:38 |
| nmz787_a | I was shooting jpegs but the imgs were about 3mb each | 13:39 |
| nmz787_a | Also if you didn't actually use the website , you missed out on my comments and hover-notes | 13:40 |
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| kanzure | hi gene_hacker | 13:42 |
| nmz787_a | Those pics may be sufficient though, i guess as long as you can read the chip labels | 13:43 |
| kanzure | gene_hacker: https://www.takeitapart.com/guide/94 | 13:43 |
| gene_hacker | saw it | 13:43 |
| nmz787_a | This doesn't seem good for us like-to-think http://news.sciencemag.org/brain-behavior/2014/07/people-would-rather-be-electrically-shocked-left-alone-their-thoughts | 13:47 |
| nmz787_a | Gene_hacker ever been to the Oregon country fair? | 13:53 |
| gene_hacker | no | 13:53 |
| gene_hacker | when where? | 13:53 |
| nmz787_a | Next weekend | 13:53 |
| nmz787_a | West of eugene | 13:53 |
| gene_hacker | will food prepared with unhealthy levels of transfats be available? | 13:54 |
| kanzure | i'm afraid that if you two meet that it will cause the space-time mobious strip to implode | 13:54 |
| nmz787_a | No trans fats | 13:54 |
| gene_hacker | that's ok kanzure there are indications that when qunatum mechanics is taken into account that causality violations are possible | 13:55 |
| nmz787_a | As I recall anything I ate last year was very tasty | 13:55 |
| nmz787_a | Jrayhawk are Washington fireworks better than local ones? | 13:56 |
| jrayhawk_ | Yes. | 13:57 |
| ||0_-_0|| | transfats ain't unhealthy so long as you move around enough | 14:01 |
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| jrayhawk_ | haha what | 14:04 |
| ||0_-_0|| | move enough to burn them | 14:04 |
| jrayhawk_ | yes, with all that cellular infrastructure we've evolved in the past three generations | 14:06 |
| ||0_-_0|| | your body isn't some fragile sacrosanct temple with a metabolism that falls down at the faintest insult | 14:07 |
| kanzure | i don't see you guzzling formaldehyde | 14:08 |
| ||0_-_0|| | so transfats == formaldehyde here? | 14:09 |
| ||0_-_0|| | I don't see your point | 14:09 |
| kanzure | "faintest insult" | 14:09 |
| ||0_-_0|| | what does formaldehyde have to do with your metabolism here? it's an acute cellular toxin | 14:09 |
| jrayhawk_ | humans are likened to ferraris in that regard, actually, but even less metabolically fragile animal models don't do well with oxidatively unstable and unmanagable evolutionarily novel fatty acids | 14:10 |
| pasky | ahh, i should try to put "guzzle" in my active vocabulary | 14:10 |
| kanzure | pasky: guzzard is also fun | 14:10 |
| kanzure | .ud guzzard | 14:10 |
| kanzure | .u guzzard | 14:10 |
| yoleaux | No characters found | 14:10 |
| kanzure | what | 14:10 |
| kanzure | then ud should have worked | 14:10 |
| jrayhawk_ | even cis fatty acids with different chirality cause problems | 14:10 |
| pasky | lol | 14:11 |
| ||0_-_0|| | jrayhawk_ I don't see how human metabolic robustness can be compared to a Ferrari as the diversity of the human diet is about on par with that of rats and pigs | 14:12 |
| jrayhawk_ | Not really; humans have largely lost the capacity to produce or recycle adequate levels of higher-food-chain stuff like carnatine, DHA, mk4, iodine, etc. | 14:15 |
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| jrayhawk_ | While I agree that the average western diet looks remarkably like that of a pig, I wouldn't say chronic disease rates over fifty percent is actually an indication that this is a good idea. | 14:17 |
| gene_hacker | dammit I still need to find a place to legally detonate recreational explosivies | 14:18 |
| jrayhawk_ | Well, that of a CAFO pig. | 14:18 |
| jrayhawk_ | We're sortof halfway through losing the ability to create retinol; carotinoid conversion has a lot of genetic variance. | 14:20 |
| kanzure | we could probably put those back in if you cared enough | 14:22 |
| kanzure | or dump it into some gut bacteria | 14:22 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk_: what hypothetical gut bacteria would be most useful to you | 14:27 |
| kanzure | actually, i wonder if some could be stolen from other animals safely | 14:37 |
| jrayhawk_ | this is an awkward question because the unknowns are so huge; folks doing disease correlation studies still refer to most of the floral species as "operational taxonomic units" | 14:40 |
| jrayhawk_ | broadly speaking, soil-based bacteria seem to be pretty fragile and pretty beneficial | 14:40 |
| jrayhawk_ | e.g. throwing the intestines into an inflammatory state or tossing antibiotics/antiseptics down tend to kill them off pretty easily | 14:41 |
| jrayhawk_ | if the question is about me specifically, i am doing fine. i can eat large quantities of prebiotics without adverse symptomology. | 14:42 |
| kanzure | not you specifically, except inasmuch as you are more likely to be someone who can fathom what i am asking as opposed to not | 14:42 |
| kanzure | what about vitamin production though | 14:43 |
| jrayhawk_ | Oh. Hmm. Phytase activity is a handy thing for the gut biome to have, but I haven't actually run across (or looked for) much else in terms of nutrient extraction/production. | 14:45 |
| jrayhawk_ | like, i can buy my way into good micronutrition, so the gut angle isn't that interesting to me. I can see where vegans would really *really* need phytase activity and something to convert cyanocobalamin. | 14:47 |
| jrayhawk_ | how do vegans even deal with the taxonomy of "animal" in lower species | 14:49 |
| jrayhawk_ | i guess the rule of thumb is "anything with a face" | 14:50 |
| jrayhawk_ | shellfish would be fine, then, which would instantly solve most of their nutritional problems | 14:51 |
| nmz787_a | No animalicules. | 14:52 |
| nmz787_a | Animalecules | 14:52 |
| nmz787_a | Animolecules | 14:52 |
| nmz787_a | Whatever that dead dude called them | 14:52 |
| nmz787_a | Jrayhawk are mussels or clams better? | 14:53 |
| nmz787_a | I could remember when I was at the coast last... Like since I don't eat licet | 14:53 |
| nmz787_a | Liver | 14:53 |
| kanzure | animacules | 14:54 |
| nmz787_a | jrayhawk_ ^ | 14:56 |
| nmz787_a | wanna carpool to Washington to light fireworks? | 14:57 |
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| jrayhawk_ | Nah, I'm heading out to the hills south of Hillsborough (ha ha ha) to watch the entire valley light up. | 14:59 |
| jrayhawk_ | re: mussels or clams: whatever you'll eat. shellfish are all pretty amazing nutritionally. | 15:01 |
| nmz787_a | Ah ok | 15:02 |
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| nmz787_a | Nothing seems to be open today | 15:30 |
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| juri_ | home depot is. | 15:38 |
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| kanzure | https://github.com/nelhage/reptyr "reptyr is a utility for taking an existing running program and attaching it to a new terminal. Started a long-running process over ssh, but have to leave and don't want to interrupt it? Just start a screen, use reptyr to grab it, and then kill the ssh session and head on home." | 16:41 |
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| ParahSailin | oysters are the best | 16:46 |
| kanzure | not amused https://github.com/marook/tagfs | 16:46 |
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| kanzure | doesn't feel right: echo movie >> items/Ted/.tag | 16:47 |
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| ||0_-_0|| | paperbot http://www.sciencemag.org/content/288/5466/669 | 17:27 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1126%2Fscience.288.5466.669 | 17:27 |
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| kanzure | http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2012/05/09/welcome-to-the-future-nauseous/ | 18:24 |
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| nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hbm.22562/pdf | 19:08 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/89a216dd93565846da9ee7d8517b5060.txt | 19:08 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/store/10.1002/hbm.22562/asset/hbm22562.pdf?v=1&t=hx8alsjx&s=17f40af115dddd6a4b3cb34dec604cc3a411c4a1 | 19:09 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/79b3a714c4247152abf49bbd6e404295.pdf | 19:09 |
| nmz787 | "Enhanced Repertoire of Brain Dynamical States During the Psychedelic Experience" | 19:09 |
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