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EnLilaSko | Does anyone remember who it was that was going to help me with the Chinese? :P | 03:57 |
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kanzure | was it a person? | 06:22 |
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justanotheruser | Is space a worthless pursuit? | 12:54 |
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kanzure | nah it has valuables | 12:58 |
kanzure | like space | 12:58 |
kanzure | and things | 12:58 |
chris_99 | why would it be worthless? | 12:59 |
kanzure | "there's so much of it!" | 13:01 |
chris_99 | also you might find aliens who give you free tech ;) | 13:05 |
chris_99 | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1077314210000664 | 13:10 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/9546d4bb527dba0f7f09ffe8970d41ad.txt | 13:10 |
kanzure | but what if they have a stupid non-interference thing | 13:15 |
chris_99 | non-interference thing? | 13:16 |
kanzure | .g non-interference space directive | 13:16 |
yoleaux | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime_Directive | 13:16 |
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chris_99 | we just find them and pester them anyway | 13:18 |
kanzure | with our luck their only advanced technology is anal probing | 13:19 |
chris_99 | haha | 13:19 |
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chris_99 | hmm i've just noticed some electroporators on the fleabay, i'm kind of tempted as they're not massively expensive | 14:21 |
kanzure | paperbot: http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2013/05/20/medethics-2013-101458.long | 14:22 |
kanzure | .title | 14:22 |
yoleaux | The challenge of crafting policy for do-it-yourself brain stimulation -- Fitz and Reiner -- Journal of Medical Ethics | 14:22 |
paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/The%20challenge%20of%20crafting%20policy%20for%20do-it-yourself%20brain%20stimulation.pdf | 14:22 |
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ybit3 | should you tie validation rules and business logic to your models? | 14:36 |
kanzure | validation rules are generally tied to models | 14:39 |
kanzure | like in https://github.com/kanzure/modelo | 14:39 |
kanzure | business logic, that's more up in the air.. my opinion is yes, and i make lots of my classes really fat. | 14:40 |
nmz787 | chris_99: http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/3D_face_reconstructions_from_photometric_stereo_using_near_infrared_and_visible_light.pdf | 14:44 |
chris_99 | ooh yay, thanks | 14:44 |
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chris_99 | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cambridge-StereoScan-600-Scanning-Electron-Microscope-50-000x-Magnification-25KV-/301229405125?pt=UK_BOI_Medical_Lab_Equipment_Lab_Equipment_ET&hash=item4622abf3c5 | 14:59 |
chris_99 | damn i wish i had spare cash and a decent space | 14:59 |
ybit3 | thanks for the feedback kanzure | 15:02 |
ybit3 | i'm told, in haskell, it's seperate. validation rules should be types | 15:03 |
kanzure | chris_99: if it works i'll consider it | 15:03 |
chris_99 | he does say 'This microscope was in full functional condition when it was careful removed from a lab last week.' it's from 74' apparently, i wonder how it outputs the image | 15:04 |
chris_99 | hmm it's got a bnc port for tv | 15:05 |
kanzure | "but due to the nature of this item it is being sold for parts" | 15:05 |
chris_99 | mmm yeah | 15:06 |
chris_99 | has anyone done electroporation here out of interest? | 15:17 |
kanzure | yashgaroth has maybe done it this week | 15:22 |
yashgaroth | yeah whatup | 15:22 |
chris_99 | i'm just wondering how easy you think it'd be to introduce a pGLO plasmid into yeast, if it would be possible at all | 15:23 |
chris_99 | using electroporation | 15:23 |
yashgaroth | well I don't think it'll replicate in yeast, or that the selection will function | 15:24 |
yashgaroth | or that the gfp gene would be expressed | 15:24 |
nmz787 | electroporation is very nice | 15:27 |
nmz787 | ttyl | 15:27 |
chris_99 | ah cheers, is there a simple way you could, or would that require creating your own plasmid | 15:27 |
yashgaroth | yeah the electroporation part would work fine | 15:27 |
yashgaroth | I'm sure someone makes a working gfp plasmid for yeast, might need a special strain tho | 15:27 |
yashgaroth | I don't do much yeast work since they're not really useful, so I can't name any specifics | 15:28 |
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chris_99 | okey dokey, appreciate the help, i'll do some googling on that | 15:29 |
yashgaroth | good luck with your glowing beer | 15:30 |
chris_99 | hehe thanks | 15:30 |
chris_99 | http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0103-90162000000400018 sounds v. interesting | 15:38 |
paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1590%2FS0103-90162000000400018 | 15:38 |
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kanzure | "To take a very recent bitcoin-related example, the owners of bitcoinica were using LastPass to manage their passwords. LastPass leaks membership through the "forgot password" function, and probably months ago an attacker determined that info@bitcoinica.com was a LastPass account. Then, when the bitcoinica source code was leaked, attacker tried the api key within the code (set as password by naive investor) and bam: synced with LastPass ... | 19:10 |
kanzure | ... account to get mtgox passwords and clear out bitcoinica's mtgox account of ~$350k USD." | 19:11 |
kanzure | that is dedication | 19:11 |
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kanzure | huh, angular-router looks generally worse than ui-router | 19:36 |
kanzure | ybit3: yes they should be types. but if your model type has subordinate model types.. which they usually do. like fields. | 20:03 |
justanotheruser | kanzure: can I have that wei dai post about marketplaces again? | 20:33 |
kanzure | http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1995/10/msg00062.html | 20:35 |
kanzure | http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1997/04/msg00398.html | 20:35 |
justanotheruser | ty | 20:35 |
kanzure | http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1996/05/msg00980.html | 20:35 |
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nmz787 | y'all are boring lately | 21:21 |
kanzure | we could make fun of that crazy dude's understanding of open source | 21:23 |
kanzure | re: his dna synthesizer | 21:23 |
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nmz787 | i thought we wouldn't go there | 22:12 |
kanzure | voluntarily limit our mocking? nonsense | 22:12 |
nmz787 | i wanna talk to people about my ideas, but under the veil of secrecy | 22:13 |
kanzure | what do you mean? | 22:15 |
kanzure | oh, mocking. got it. | 22:15 |
kanzure | see, i'm rusty at this | 22:16 |
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nmz787 | no, actually | 22:55 |
nmz787 | i am lonely in here | 22:55 |
nmz787 | ;( | 22:55 |
bkero | chatroulette | 22:56 |
kanzure | i don't suppose you want to do angular things for me | 22:56 |
* kanzure scratches his head about a carousel | 22:56 | |
kanzure | name doesn't even make sense, there's no ceramic disappointment | 22:56 |
nmz787 | can chatroulette filter for a materials scientist? | 22:57 |
ebowden | Oh, you're a materials scientist? | 22:59 |
ebowden | Neat. | 22:59 |
kanzure | why would you think that means he's a "materials scientist"? | 22:59 |
ebowden | Oh right. | 23:00 |
kanzure | ...? | 23:00 |
ebowden | He wanted to talk to a materials scientist. | 23:01 |
nmz787 | basically | 23:02 |
nmz787 | ebowden: are you one? | 23:02 |
ebowden | Oh god no. | 23:14 |
ebowden | I'm not remotely qualified in any field of science. | 23:15 |
kanzure | "qualified" | 23:15 |
ebowden | Or learned. | 23:15 |
nmz787 | ah | 23:16 |
nmz787 | dang | 23:16 |
* nmz787 wants a research/biz partner | 23:16 | |
ebowden | Out of curiosity, what was it you wanted to talk to a materials scientist for? | 23:17 |
ebowden | Ah. | 23:17 |
ebowden | What was your field? | 23:17 |
nmz787 | would make DNA synthesis a bit easier | 23:17 |
kanzure | don't you ever get tired of caring about formalities like that? | 23:17 |
kanzure | or what would it take to convince you to stop caring about those fomalities? | 23:17 |
kanzure | *formalities | 23:17 |
nmz787 | well the alternative is all that patent crap, it seems | 23:18 |
kanzure | no not you | 23:18 |
nmz787 | shutting up is easier in that sense | 23:18 |
kanzure | the dog person | 23:18 |
ebowden | Oh, me? | 23:19 |
kanzure | use ParahSailin | 23:19 |
ebowden | nmz787, what kind of research did you want to do? Anything particular in mind? | 23:20 |
nmz787 | related to polymer synthesis, surface interactions, chemical separations, CAD, parts assembly, optics, robotics/handling | 23:27 |
nmz787 | software | 23:27 |
nmz787 | etc | 23:27 |
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ebowden | Ah, ok. | 23:38 |
ebowden | Any projects on making DNA synthesis cheaper? | 23:39 |
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nmz787 | yes | 23:46 |
nmz787 | yes | 23:47 |
nmz787 | whoops | 23:47 |
ebowden | :D | 23:51 |
ebowden | What parts of the process are you trying to make cheaper? :D | 23:51 |
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