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| poppingtonic | paperbot: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=203256 | 05:38 |
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| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1145%2F203241.203256 | 05:38 |
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| kanzure | swig swig swig | 07:23 |
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| archels | paperbot: http://journals.aps.org/prl/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevLett.89.264501 | 07:35 |
| paperbot | XMLSyntaxError: None (file "/home/bryan/code/paperbot/phenny/modules/scihub.py", line 70, in _go) | 07:35 |
| archels | got it, thanks | 07:39 |
| kanzure | hm | 07:39 |
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| kanzure | "even the original author of swig hates swig" http://code.activestate.com/lists/python-dev/109281/ | 08:40 |
| chris_99 | haha | 08:40 |
| kanzure | "If I went to implement something like SWIG today, I would almost surely base my implementation on Clang (http://clang.llvm.org/). They have a full C++ parser (carefully hand-crafted, quite admirably keeping a relatively comprehensible code-base for such a task) used in a real compiler front-end, and a flexible library structure aimed at creating tools. There are also Python bindings that would allow to do most of the interesting ... | 08:45 |
| kanzure | ... Python-interface-specific work in Python - parse the C++ headers using Clang's existing parser into ASTs - then generate ctypes / extensions from that, *in Python*." | 08:45 |
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| kanzure | .title http://eli.thegreenplace.net/2011/07/03/parsing-c-in-python-with-clang/ | 08:52 |
| yoleaux | Eli Bendersky's website ยป Parsing C++ in Python with Clang | 08:52 |
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| kanzure | environment-sensitive hydrogels for drug delivery http://www.kinam.com/Articles/Hydrogels%20Papers/Qiu%2001%20ADDR.pdf | 09:24 |
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| kanzure | bbrittain: hi | 10:17 |
| bbrittain | kanzure: hey | 10:18 |
| kanzure | sup | 10:18 |
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| kanzure | this is thorough-ish http://www.talkingquickly.co.uk/2014/06/rails-development-environment-with-vagrant-and-docker/ | 16:25 |
| kanzure | explains vagrant+docker for people silly enough to want vagrant too | 16:25 |
| catern | am i right in thinking vagrant is awful | 16:28 |
| catern | why would you want to have an automated deployment mechanism that isn't production-ready, amirite | 16:28 |
| kanzure | vagrant is just a wrapper around a number of different hypervisors | 16:33 |
| kanzure | just because vagrant is capable of booting up a vm image doesn't mean that that vm image has been tainted by vagrant | 16:33 |
| catern | doesn't vagrant create vm images? | 16:34 |
| kanzure | if you ask it to | 16:34 |
| catern | but isn't that the entire point? | 16:34 |
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| kanzure | also i guess it depends on your strange definition of deployment | 16:36 |
| kanzure | if i am spinning up a vm for testing reasons, is that deployment | 16:37 |
| streety | I had been under the impression docker could substitute for vagrant | 17:08 |
| catern | yes, a testing vm is deployment | 17:08 |
| streety | also, any ideas why "Separate Docker containers for the Rails application, PostgreSQL and Redis" is used? | 17:09 |
| kanzure | vagrant is just a utility thing, you can throw around docker containers or virtualbox images or whatever you please | 17:09 |
| kanzure | there are separate containers because separation of concerns | 17:09 |
| kanzure | and one container is supposed to correspond to one application | 17:10 |
| kanzure | a database, key/value cache database thing, and a rails application are definitely separate things | 17:10 |
| kanzure | http://orchardup.github.io/fig/index.html | 17:12 |
| streety | thanks | 17:21 |
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| kanzure | i am reviewing some old containers i wrote with fig | 17:23 |
| kanzure | and i clearly had no idea what i was doing | 17:23 |
| kanzure | one of the containers has two subcontainers for no apparent reason | 17:23 |
| catern | i just dislike the vagrantfile thing | 17:24 |
| catern | having yet another way to specify configuration is dumb if you can't use that configuration in production | 17:24 |
| kanzure | most of the time i've seen people using vagrant as a way to distribute a vm when they don't know what hypervisor the other person wants to use | 17:25 |
| kanzure | you don't have to make up fancypants configuration that has to happen in production | 17:25 |
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| ParahSailin_ | kanzure: what sort of vm would one use if you wanted to automate building distributable packages in various os versions; ie a work flow of push to git repo, spawn up distro in a box, build rpm in distro, export rpm to host system | 18:33 |
| ParahSailin_ | or even a chroot jail might work for that, if all you want to do is link to different shared objects | 18:34 |
| kanzure | i've made that sort of workflow a number of times, and to be honest most of my answer is "it depends on the other jerks on your team" | 18:36 |
| kanzure | for the last segment: fpm, scp to yum host, createrepo to reindex rpms (don't do it as fucking root) | 18:37 |
| ParahSailin_ | yeah i already am using fpm | 18:37 |
| ParahSailin_ | team is just me | 18:38 |
| kanzure | rpm should have a version number or unique id in filename so that you can have old references etc | 18:38 |
| ParahSailin_ | right now im just using fucking virtualbox on a windows desktop host | 18:38 |
| kanzure | do you have a favorite continuous integration thing? you can just dump the "git clone/fetch/whatever and fpm" on a continuous integration slave. | 18:38 |
| kanzure | you could also wire one up manually i guess, where you have a git server somewhere that uses a git receive hook to trigger the slavework | 18:40 |
| ParahSailin_ | so have several vm's constantly running with git servers? | 18:40 |
| kanzure | i think most people just giveup and use jenkins or teamcity, but i haven't looked lately | 18:40 |
| kanzure | well, no matter what, you're going to need at least one vm that will be doing the building and packaging (because presumably you need a specific environment and toolchain to do so) | 18:41 |
| kanzure | none of your problems are fpm/rpm related | 18:43 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk: is this the only way to get environment variables into nginx.conf? http://stackoverflow.com/a/24696592/687783 | 18:44 |
| kanzure | this person is doing weird things (regex replace to populate nginx.conf) https://github.com/shepmaster/nginx-template-image/blob/master/bin/substitute-env-vars.sh | 18:46 |
| kanzure | "set_by_lua $api_key 'return os.getenv("API_KEY")';" just seems like a very roundabout way to do this | 18:48 |
| kanzure | haha what "and since Nginx does not (yet) support dynamic loading of modules which means a recompile of Nginx is needed to get support for running Lua" | 18:50 |
| jrayhawk | there's the 'env' directive in core | 18:50 |
| jrayhawk | that said, there's no direct CGI execution, so it's not clear what you'd want them for | 18:51 |
| kanzure | stuff like proxy_pass $var | 18:51 |
| jrayhawk | oh. templating can be done with M4. | 18:53 |
| kanzure | maybe i'll just use jinja2 templates to generate my actual config file | 18:53 |
| jrayhawk | or that | 18:53 |
| kanzure | righto | 18:53 |
| jrayhawk | or use lighty, which has much more flexible configuration syntax | 18:54 |
| kanzure | static config files are wrong anyway. all the cool kids just use nginx/haproxy talking to another local daemon to decide when to add/remove entries based on your application's network weather. | 18:54 |
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| catern | amen to that | 18:56 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: mount: cgroup already mounted or cpuset busy | 22:52 |
| kanzure | not your fault, is from another box, just wondering wtf | 22:53 |
| kanzure | internet says i gotta reboot but i am skeptical | 22:54 |
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| kanzure | "Note: When mapping ports in the HOST:CONTAINER format, you may experience erroneous results when using a container port lower than 60, because YAML will parse numbers in the format xx:yy as sexagesimal (base 60). For this reason, we recommend always explicitly specifying your port mappings as strings." | 23:52 |
| kanzure | of course | 23:52 |
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| jrayhawk | i would need a little more context for that cgroup thing | 23:58 |
| jrayhawk | most notably i can't imagine doing anything with cgroup that isn't already done for you by a default fstab | 23:59 |
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