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| kanzure | < nextgens> jvoisin> if you want some malware to look into: torbundlebrowser.org | 03:11 |
| kanzure | http://dustri.org/b/files/b7e516a33956cc60703cd0057d8d8874.zip | 03:12 |
| kanzure | "I downloaded the alleged Tor Browser Bundle (password: infected), named "torbrowser-install-3.6.3_en-US.exe", and PEiD/yara told me that it's a .NET executable. ILSpy shows us: ...." | 03:12 |
| kanzure | "Their server is a stack of outdated crap, feel free to root them for more details." | 03:13 |
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| kyknos | paperbot, http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2028.1978.tb00434.x/abstract | 03:55 |
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| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/7be3258d070a948b89c5f505178c2b59.txt | 04:20 |
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| dpk | archels: yo. | 06:52 |
| dpk | .oed ill repute | 06:52 |
| yoleaux | Not found in the OED. | 06:52 |
| dpk | ⬑ no | 06:52 |
| dpk | .oed house of ill repute | 06:53 |
| dpk | seems to derive in more general usage from that ⬏ | 06:53 |
| yoleaux | house, n.1 and int.: http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/88886?p=emailAES3BvjQT/qso&d=88886 | 06:53 |
| dpk | that ⬏ | 06:54 |
| dpk | earliest quotation in a full-text search outside of 'house of …' is 1680 | 06:55 |
| archels | well, the wikitionary entry leads me to believe that 'ill repute', without reference to a house, is a separate thing | 06:55 |
| * dpk nods | 06:57 | |
| dpk | 'ill, adj. and n.' has not been revised for the OED3 yet. maybe it will be added then | 06:57 |
| dpk | .oed 91345 | 06:57 |
| yoleaux | ill, adj. and n.: http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/91345?p=emailAE7pQEOvhsUhU&d=91345 | 06:58 |
| pasky_ | Webster1913 has "Ill fame, ill or bad repute; as, a house of ill fame, a house where lewd persons meet for illicit intercourse" | 07:00 |
| pasky_ | http://machaut.uchicago.edu/?resource=Webster%27s&word=ill&use1913=on&use1828=on | 07:00 |
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| kanzure | what | 07:14 |
| kanzure | why did paperbot take 25 minutes? | 07:21 |
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| ParahSailin | it cant be bargained with. it doesnt feel pity, remorse, or fear. and it will never ever stop until your paper is found | 07:26 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning, everyone. | 07:46 |
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| chris_99 | aloha | 07:46 |
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| JayDugger | Hawaii's still there? | 07:47 |
| chris_99 | heh | 07:47 |
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| chris_99 | nmz787_i, have you programmed those fx2lp boards btw, i'm curious if you can use the 128kbit EEPROM on PCB, for program storage | 09:08 |
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| nmz787_i1 | chris_99: I've tweaked the EEPROM I believe that stored the PID and VID | 11:54 |
| chris_99 | gotcha yeah that would be the 128K one | 11:54 |
| chris_99 | did you just use one of the software programs and do it via USB | 11:54 |
| nmz787_i1 | i used an arduino and minigrabbers | 11:55 |
| chris_99 | ah interesting | 11:56 |
| nmz787_i1 | it was not the fx2 chip, it was a separate IC | 11:56 |
| chris_99 | mmmm | 11:57 |
| nmz787_i1 | http://www.epanorama.net/newepa/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/usbee21.jpg | 11:58 |
| chris_99 | i'm looking @ http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181156425615?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT | 12:00 |
| chris_99 | i was thinking of making a buspirate or something | 12:00 |
| chris_99 | out of it | 12:00 |
| nmz787_i1 | not sure if this is using the fx2 itself http://www.triplespark.net/elec/periph/USB-FX2/eeprom/ | 12:01 |
| chris_99 | i was on that page earlier | 12:01 |
| nmz787_i1 | but here it shows the VID and PID http://solaraspost.blogspot.com/2013/01/saleaeusbee-dual-mode-logic-analyser.html | 12:01 |
| chris_99 | "Fxload is a small and useful tool to program an EEPROM attached to the FX2." | 12:01 |
| nmz787_i1 | and that the eeprom is I2C | 12:02 |
| nmz787_i1 | well yeah but that doesn't tell about the implementation | 12:02 |
| nmz787_i1 | i mean, that sentence isn't falsified if it requires an arduino for example | 12:02 |
| chris_99 | no, i mean, that sentance makes it sound like the eeprom | 12:02 |
| nmz787_i1 | IMO at least, since the EEPROM would still be attached | 12:02 |
| chris_99 | is always separate | 12:02 |
| nmz787_i1 | ah | 12:03 |
| nmz787_i1 | ya | 12:03 |
| chris_99 | interestingly my salae 16 clone | 12:03 |
| chris_99 | has a xilinx | 12:03 |
| chris_99 | in | 12:03 |
| nmz787_i1 | i think the fx2 is much faster than the buspirate | 12:03 |
| chris_99 | mmm thats something i was thinking so maybe it could do cooler stuff | 12:03 |
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| kanzure | i predict incoming spam from these borons: http://www.biodirectusa.com/ | 12:43 |
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| * heath waits on fig to finish building... | 13:18 | |
| heath | i've been given a quiz from a company for a django position | 13:19 |
| heath | https://gist.github.com/heath/d51b26002d14541f0280 | 13:19 |
| heath | is there a better way of doing this? | 13:20 |
| heath | i'm not a django expert by any means | 13:20 |
| archels | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_computer-aided_design_editors | 13:33 |
| archels | kanzure: do you know any unconventional CAD tools that are not in this list? | 13:33 |
| archels | e.g. Blender is not in there | 13:33 |
| archels | 3D specifically | 13:34 |
| kanzure | heath: can't tell what the problem is. the comments refer to an __init__ but i don't see one. | 13:36 |
| archels | hmm, Google sold off SketchUp? odd. | 13:36 |
| heath | kanzure: i'm refactoring after a few comments from some nashvillians | 13:36 |
| kanzure | archels: sisl cad.py tinkercad euclid heekscad opencascade alibrecad rhino beaglecad unigraphics maya... lots more. | 13:39 |
| archels | ah yeah I built some software with SISL once | 13:43 |
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| kanzure | really | 13:45 |
| kanzure | i have read through the sisl source code a few times | 13:45 |
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| dingo | 16:22 < heath> is there a better way of doing this? | 13:54 |
| dingo | i don't know django models very well, but at minimum return u' '.join(self.firstname, self.lastname) :) | 13:55 |
| dingo | i would just write some tests to test the relationship, build a few fake students and fake campus's and be able to verify their relationships, and i'm sure it'll become clear | 13:56 |
| dingo | i haven't yet gotten desperate enough for work to learn Django | 13:56 |
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| delinquentme | there still aren't cheap FPGAs are there? | 14:00 |
| chris_99 | sure there are | 14:00 |
| delinquentme | I know this is like size-dependent but whats the cheapest on the market going for about now? | 14:01 |
| chris_99 | seen http://www.joelw.id.au/FPGA/CheapFPGADevelopmentBoards ? | 14:01 |
| nmz787_i1 | heath: I can't remember if that way would require you to use reverse for getting the student's campuses... or if it would be incorrect to add a manytomany in the student back to the campuses | 14:07 |
| nmz787_i1 | delinquentme: lattice | 14:08 |
| nmz787_i1 | few dollars | 14:08 |
| nmz787_i1 | delinquentme: $25 dev board http://www.digikey.com/product-search/en?mpart=ICE40HX1K-STICK-EVN&vendor=220 | 14:09 |
| nmz787_i1 | delinquentme: http://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/icestick-evaluation-board/40913 | 14:09 |
| nmz787_i1 | just found this, looks like it might be cool http://www.xmos.com/startkit | 14:11 |
| chris_99 | mmm xmos is interesting | 14:11 |
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| chris_99 | i think they use llvm for their compiler | 14:11 |
| nmz787_i1 | chris_99: some decents comments on xmos http://hackaday.com/2013/10/20/hackaday-links-october-20-2013/ | 14:13 |
| nmz787_i1 | whoo hoo, just got FIB time for learning to script drawing bitmaps and the rest the software's scriptable features | 14:15 |
| nmz787_i1 | I think the computer may be too old to do reasonable real-time video processing though... so I either need to try upgrading it or seeing if the ethernet or something might be an option | 14:16 |
| chris_99 | FIB time? | 14:16 |
| nmz787_i1 | I think developing an ISA or PCI card module is out of the question | 14:16 |
| nmz787_i1 | yea | 14:16 |
| nmz787_i1 | I can start drawin nanoz | 14:17 |
| nmz787_i1 | chris_99: oscope based on that http://www.element14.com/community/community/raspberry-pi/raspberrypi_projects/blog/2014/06/22/xmos-startkit-xmos-and-raspberry-pi-oscilloscope-xae-1000 | 14:25 |
| chris_99 | cool | 14:25 |
| chris_99 | looks fun to play with | 14:25 |
| chris_99 | have you looked into Parallela | 14:25 |
| chris_99 | at all | 14:25 |
| chris_99 | it seems like that has FPGA+ARM (Zynq) and also their weird multicore GPU like thing | 14:26 |
| nmz787_i1 | nah ah | 14:26 |
| nmz787_i1 | hmm, not too shabby ADC, 12 bit at 1msps | 14:26 |
| nmz787_i1 | better than AVR | 14:26 |
| nmz787_i1 | ahh, the codez https://github.com/shabaz123/XAE1000 | 14:27 |
| nmz787_i1 | C | 14:27 |
| chris_99 | hmmm i'm curious how the core work | 14:27 |
| chris_99 | it's got strange definitions in there too like [[combinable]] | 14:28 |
| archels | delinquentme: what do you want an FPGA for? | 14:32 |
| kanzure | what do you not want an fpga for | 14:32 |
| kanzure | what sorta question is that :p | 14:32 |
| archels | I am curious as to the application, and it should probably be a relevant factor in deciding which one to get | 14:33 |
| kanzure | alright | 14:34 |
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| archels | heh, BeagleCad only points back to http://diyhpl.us/wiki/cadfaq/ | 14:38 |
| archels | do you have a link for it? | 14:38 |
| kanzure | oh damn i probabl meant eaglecad, huh | 14:38 |
| kanzure | that doesn't sound right though. eaglecad doesn't belong on that list. | 14:39 |
| kanzure | sorry, i don't seem to have anything lese on it | 14:39 |
| kanzure | *else | 14:39 |
| chris_99 | nmz787_i1, you need to record a video for HaD sooon ;) | 14:40 |
| nmz787_i1 | BeagleCAD sounds more exciting | 14:43 |
| nmz787_i1 | dogeCAD | 14:43 |
| kanzure | archels: there was also lolcad but i never got it to do anything, the author is a huge douchebag | 14:43 |
| nmz787_i1 | chris_99: ugh, yeah | 14:44 |
| nmz787_i1 | chris_99: I've been tired after work lately and didn't work on the octopart BOM stuff at all during defcon | 14:44 |
| nmz787_i1 | the chromebook couldn't copy the files from my android phon | 14:44 |
| archels | kanzure: heh | 14:44 |
| nmz787_i1 | yay for Google's shit not working with itself | 14:44 |
| chris_99 | ah darn | 14:44 |
| nmz787_i1 | so apparently the site ahappmango sucks... i ordered from them 4 or 5 weeks ago and they sent me tracking numbers twice now that ended up being delivered on the other side of the country | 14:48 |
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| delinquentme | archels, someone had mentioned that a FPGA could be used as a software controllable 'end point' for the more complex chips on a piece of hardware | 14:50 |
| delinquentme | IE " if we want to version control everything and minimize intra-generation machine variance ... FPGAs could be really helpful " | 14:50 |
| archels | yeah, Andrew Huang did that on his Novena laptop | 14:51 |
| archels | more CAD software https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_3D_modeling_software | 14:53 |
| chris_99 | hmm is the FPGA mainly tied to the CPU, and providing some GPIO, other stuff like the NIC doesn't seem to go through it? | 14:54 |
| kanzure | archels: cadquery is pretty close to great, but there are some rough spots, like the freecad dependency and some opencascade weirdness | 14:54 |
| kanzure | for example, a hole in the middle of a rectangle can't be cut if it's smaller than 0.47 units | 14:54 |
| kanzure | but otherwise it's okay haha | 14:55 |
| archels | yeah, who needs small holes anyway | 15:00 |
| archels | "By including a FuseSurface feature designed for fusing 2 NURBS surfaces together, Seamless3d allows for the creation of smooth continuous curvy models made from multiple NURBS surfaces." | 15:00 |
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| kanzure | archels: i think your best bet at this point is the version of opennurbs inside brlcad | 15:02 |
| kanzure | plus, brlcad has some extra functions for intersections of a data structure that eventuall references an opennurbs class instance | 15:02 |
| kanzure | *eventually | 15:02 |
| kanzure | archels: on a related note, i got an email from someone the other day offering to rewrite opennurbs in python (or c? not sure, definitely said python at least) over 4 months for about $6k USD | 15:03 |
| archels | they just offered you that? heh | 15:08 |
| archels | as part of a larger project? | 15:08 |
| kanzure | brlcad gsoc student working on python-brlcad introduced me to his friend who made that offer | 15:09 |
| archels | do you think it would be less painful than wrapping it? | 15:11 |
| archels | all this porting to $lastestfashionablelanguage, ugh | 15:12 |
| archels | don't get me wrong, I adore Python | 15:12 |
| archels | but it doesn't feel like real progress | 15:12 |
| kanzure | yeah, so i made a swig wrapper here you go http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/opennurbs/brlcad-opennurbs2.zip | 15:13 |
| kanzure | instructions http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/opennurbs/README.txt | 15:13 |
| kanzure | also the gsoc person (raj12lnm) wrote a pybindgen wrapper because he couldn't get my swig wrapper to work for him(?) https://github.com/raj12lnm/OpenNurbs-Python/ | 15:13 |
| kanzure | i just don't like mixing swig and ctypes in the same project | 15:14 |
| kanzure | python-brlcad is based on ctypes and ctypesgen | 15:14 |
| kanzure | and i haven't plaed around with passing pointers between ctypes and swig to see if everything blows up or mabe works | 15:14 |
| kanzure | *mabe | 15:14 |
| kanzure | *maybe | 15:14 |
| kanzure | *played | 15:14 |
| kanzure | hooking that up to cadquery would be interesting | 15:19 |
| archels | mhrm. lesser of two evils I suppose | 15:27 |
| kanzure | i would just wire up python-brlcad, but the primitives that are wrapped aren't really enough to do what cadquery provides | 15:28 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/raj12lnm/python-brlcad | 15:29 |
| kanzure | compare to https://github.com/dcowden/cadquery/blob/master/examples/FreeCAD/Ex023_Parametric_Enclosure.py | 15:30 |
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| nmz787_i1 | kanzure: would it be useful to try and convince the kicad people that 3D could be added? As far as them already having some rendering engine and lots activity these day. | 15:57 |
| kanzure | nurbs is not an easy topic | 15:58 |
| kanzure | they have very few incentives to write their own implementatoin | 15:59 |
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| kanzure | and most of the options available for nurbs integration are not very well maintained (opencascade, opennurbs, sisl? that's it, i think) | 15:59 |
| kanzure | the rendering is not actually that difficult, since the opengl standard has had nurbs tessellation for at least a decade now | 16:00 |
| nmz787_i1 | aren't they backed by CERN | 16:00 |
| nmz787_i1 | seems they would have a need for that | 16:00 |
| nmz787_i1 | somewhere | 16:00 |
| kanzure | cern uses an ancestor of opencascade called euclid or cas.cade | 16:00 |
| kanzure | actually they probably use solidworks or catia | 16:02 |
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| delinquentme | cool just configured SLURM | 17:05 |
| nmz787_i1 | kanzure: and other japanime/manga fans might like this http://pbs.twimg.com/media/ButnfbTCIAAW2DG.jpg | 17:05 |
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| kanzure | oooooold | 17:20 |
| nmz787_i1 | http://www.fpga4fun.com/PCI.html | 17:47 |
| nmz787_i1 | .title | 17:48 |
| yoleaux | fpga4fun.com | 17:48 |
| nmz787_i1 | 'where FPGAs are fun' | 17:48 |
| nmz787_i1 | cool, I like fun | 17:48 |
| nmz787_i1 | "Win32 example application to communicate with the PCI WDM driver from a Win32 application (C source code + compiled)" | 17:50 |
| nmz787_i1 | Linux port (unsupported) (https://github.com/pficheux/KNJN) | 17:51 |
| nmz787_i1 | "As you can see, there is no 'DLL' or 'Active-X' control, just plain HDL and C code, so that you can understand and use the examples natively into your own application." | 17:51 |
| nmz787_i1 | $299.95 aww :( | 17:51 |
| nmz787_i1 | that isn't a fun price | 17:55 |
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| nmz787_i1 | well this is pretty nice http://hackaday.com/2014/05/09/bunnies-laptop-gets-a-900mhz-scope-addon/ | 19:00 |
| nmz787_i1 | some PDFs of the probe schematics http://bunniefoo.com/novena/novescope/ | 19:01 |
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| cpopell | paperbot: http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v512/n7513/full/nature13570.html | 19:11 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1038%2Fnature13570 | 19:11 |
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| nmz787_i1 | any ideas how hard it would be to intelligently overlay dubstep or some techno on top of lecture audio? intelligently meaning choosing sound that doesn't conflict with the voice in the lecture (I think there is software to strip lyrics and make an instrumental | 19:31 |
| nmz787_i1 | 0) | 19:31 |
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| sheena | dingo_: i hear you might know things about making my hands feel better? | 23:29 |
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| ParahSailin | wear those robot hand things | 23:42 |
| dingo_ | ya | 23:45 |
| dingo_ | sheena: if your pain is on the outside of your hand (pinky, ring finger), and your elbows are very sensative ('hitting the funny bone' is more painful than usual), you get numbness and tingling -- then you have pinched ulnar nerves, which runs along your elbow | 23:46 |
| dingo_ | it comes from hacking a lot with compressed elbows, that is, not straigh out | 23:47 |
| dingo_ | for ergonomics, its important to find a somewhat uncomfortable posture with your arms extended out as far as possible -- i push my keyboard as far forward as the desk allows it, i also have been using kinesis advantage (not cheap, like $300) and a vertical mouse ($60) for years with good success | 23:48 |
| dingo_ | google some 'ulnar nerve stetch excersizes', there are two or three of them that i do all throughout the day, its habit now, easy enough to do | 23:49 |
| dingo_ | when the pain first started and became unbearable, i also installed a program .. "Break Reminder" for osx that would lock up my computer and have a 30s timer countdown and i set it for extreme 20 minute breaks | 23:49 |
| dingo_ | there are hand/wrist uhh.. things, that have a metal bar that position your hands in their natural position; slightly closed and not able to extend in much of any direction. you don't have to wear them *all* the time, but if the pain is very bad, then try to -- but try to wear them in your sleep | 23:50 |
| dingo_ | don't get the weak ones like a bowler might use, it needs to have the metal piece that runs under your wrists out to the palm of your hand to force the posture | 23:51 |
| dingo_ | this gives it time to heal, i haven't used any for a year or so, but i used it three or so times in the past few years after long hackathons when the pain was unbearable | 23:51 |
| dingo_ | there are also elbow supports that might help, but i find them terribly uncomfortable -- all they do is, when you do compress your elbows, its really tight and uncomfortable, but it makes it difficult to do the most simple tasks! like.. eating, or drinking from a cup, lol | 23:52 |
| dingo_ | but it does make you mindful of when you compress your elbows and make you consider new postures, especially relaxing | 23:52 |
| dingo_ | i can't use a mobile phone for any extended period, still to this day, the thumb activity is too much for me | 23:53 |
| dingo_ | and a steady diet of acetaminophen + caffiene, excedrine comes with the two mixed together but i prefer my caffiene from coffee | 23:54 |
| dingo_ | they also make a 'night time pain reliever' with acetaminophen that i use occasionally when i feel a lot of pain at night and think i might not be able to sleep over it | 23:55 |
| dingo_ | with any of those, forget the drug, it makes you groggy, so you have to think ahead, if you wait until you can't sleep, its too late, you won't make it out of bed in time | 23:56 |
| dingo_ | i pretty much work a 9-5, M-F, and fridays are days where the pain is greatest, and thats because i find other shit to do on the weekends | 23:58 |
| dingo_ | my hobbies is mostly programming... so... get ready to watch movies and other non-hand related activies... sucks... theres audio books too, i don't recommend reading books by hand | 23:59 |
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