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| archels | cute https://experiment.com/projects/can-we-biologically-extend-the-range-of-human-vision-into-the-near-infrared | 00:26 |
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| FourFire | yeah | 01:36 |
| FourFire | I raised concerns on their reddit thread about the possibility of reduced clarity in the red cones | 01:37 |
| juri__ | so, i successfully invented a method of casting aluminium parts from 3d printed positives using a microwave. | 01:38 |
| juri__ | (ok, two microwaves.) | 01:38 |
| FourFire | since you'd have fewer of them striking since some of the cones are instead striking on the infared wavelength | 01:38 |
| juri__ | as soon as i'm done automating the process, i'll be working on bioprinting. | 01:39 |
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| ebowden | juri__, \:D/ | 01:46 |
| juri__ | ebowden: ready to build that fosscar yet? :) | 01:47 |
| ebowden | Am I ready to build a car? | 01:47 |
| ebowden | What exactly are you trying to ask me? | 01:50 |
| juri__ | yepyep. ;) | 01:55 |
| ebowden | I am certainly not ready to build a car. | 01:56 |
| ebowden | More interested in building a cocktail of drugs to treat the brains of people with Alzheimer's Dementia. | 01:57 |
| ebowden | (My dad's 72, and honestly, I'm scared.) | 01:57 |
| * juri__ nods. | 01:58 | |
| ebowden | Do you know anyone who suffers from a neurodegenerative disease, out of curiosity? | 01:59 |
| juri__ | not really. ataxia, that's about it. | 02:00 |
| juri__ | my family suffers from bad hearts, and abuse from overwork. like me, and my hands. | 02:01 |
| ebowden | Ah. | 02:02 |
| ebowden | Yeah, saw the braces. | 02:02 |
| juri__ | carpel tunnel. i am no longer a programmer or a sysadmin as a result. | 02:02 |
| ebowden | Damn. | 02:02 |
| ebowden | Sorry. | 02:02 |
| juri__ | printing new hands is on my todo list. | 02:02 |
| ebowden | How long for it to get better? | 02:02 |
| juri__ | can't do that with aluminium. | 02:02 |
| juri__ | i'm scheduled for surgery. | 02:03 |
| ebowden | Ah, ok. | 02:03 |
| juri__ | surgery never returns origional function tho. | 02:03 |
| ebowden | Is carpel tunnel partially due to inflammation? | 02:03 |
| juri__ | my hands are screaming at me for IRCing tonight. | 02:03 |
| juri__ | yepyep. | 02:03 |
| juri__ | i'm on naproxin, but its stopped helping. | 02:04 |
| ebowden | So, have you been prescribed antiinflamatories? | 02:04 |
| ebowden | Ah, ok. | 02:04 |
| juri__ | too much damage. | 02:04 |
| ebowden | Damn. | 02:04 |
| ebowden | Well, the phytochemical dye Shikon has shown to quite a potent anti-inflammatory, among other things. | 02:06 |
| ebowden | There's quite a bit of research on it, and its downstream inhibition of TNF makes it very potent as anti-inflammatories go. | 02:07 |
| ebowden | Also, it does not appear to have any immune side effects, which is always nice. | 02:08 |
| juri__ | i may look into that. keep up the good work. | 02:08 |
| ebowden | If you're looking for something a button more potent, I could recommend buckyballs dissolved in olive oil, they've been shown to be the exact opposite of toxic in rats and people have been testing it on themselves for a few years without side effects, but I'd probably wait for the study to be replicated before I try it. | 02:12 |
| ebowden | (They rushed to publish, so there were (Now corrected)errors in the initial paper, but the results remained relatively robust.) | 02:13 |
| ebowden | There are a few teams moving to replicate it, which is good. | 02:17 |
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| ebowden | brb | 02:20 |
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| dpk | paperbot: http://gonnet.com/papers/NewIndices4Text.pdf | 03:03 |
| dpk | paperbot! | 03:04 |
| dpk | paperbot: yo, dude? | 03:04 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fb0805b9da2c63592860a676bbe2a23c.pdf | 03:06 |
| dpk | there we go | 03:10 |
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| dpk | https://experiment.com/u/aAcR2Q?helloHN | 05:08 |
| dpk | oh, archels linked it before | 05:09 |
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| kanzure | give me a set of two two-dimensional points where the absolute distance between the points is an integer and non-zero and point1.x != point2.x and point1.y != point2.y | 11:41 |
| AlterSid | (sqrt(2),sqrt(2)) & (0,0)? | 11:47 |
| kanzure | damn, i should have thought of that | 11:48 |
| kanzure | you're right | 11:48 |
| AlterSid | btw, a distance is always >= 0 (by definition) | 11:49 |
| AlterSid | so no need to take the abs | 11:49 |
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| kanzure | i needed something for my unit tests that didn't look totally stupid with wacky floats everywhere (sqrt(2) is way better) | 11:50 |
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| nmz787_i1 | paperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1118/1.1318222 | 12:08 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/5bcccf2c63b04af42aee69e6491910c9.txt | 12:08 |
| nmz787_i1 | kanzure: why wouldn't ((0,0),(1,1)) work? | 12:09 |
| nmz787_i1 | ah, distance is an int | 12:10 |
| nmz787_i1 | (isn't in my example) | 12:10 |
| nmz787_i1 | nvrmind | 12:10 |
| nmz787_i1 | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0969804397101233 | 12:13 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/55142a941f6134a935c07c65680c2660.txt | 12:13 |
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| kanzure | .wik aquadom | 12:33 |
| yoleaux | "The AquaDom in Berlin, Germany, is a 25 metre tall cylindrical acrylic glass aquarium with built-in transparent elevator. It is located at the Radisson Blu Hotel in Berlin-Mitte. The DomAquarée complex also contains a hotel, offices, a restaurant, and the aquarium Sea Life Centre." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AquaDom | 12:33 |
| kanzure | now that is a cool aquarium | 12:33 |
| kanzure | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVk-T8gjDQQ | 12:35 |
| yoleaux | Aqua Dom`s elevator | 12:35 |
| chris_99 | neat | 12:35 |
| chris_99 | .title http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~tromer/handsoff/ | 12:39 |
| yoleaux | Get Your Hands Off My Laptop | 12:39 |
| chris_99 | ' Physical Side-Channel Key-Extraction Attacks On PCs ' | 12:40 |
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| dingo_ | https://pypi.python.org/pypi/q | 13:27 |
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| kanzure | but now i have to remember which one's Q and which one's q | 13:30 |
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| dingo_ | when you 'import q' it assigns sys.modules['q'] to Q() | 13:33 |
| dingo_ | its a terrible hack all up and down | 13:33 |
| dingo_ | like how it lets you do @q wrapper, or use it as a function | 13:33 |
| dingo_ | it inspects the stackframe, finds the line of source that refers to it, and if it begins with @, then it behaves like a decorator | 13:33 |
| kanzure | that's cute | 13:34 |
| dingo_ | from this presentation "don't do this", https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2yfXnUb1S4 | 13:35 |
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| nmz787_i1 | I used to have dreams about something like that AquaDom, except that in my dreams it was simply a large drinking glass filled up then inverted above water | 14:13 |
| kanzure | "except in my dreams it was full of beer" | 14:16 |
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| dingo_ | man i just got some troll email me | 14:23 |
| dingo_ | Subject: Your Forking Obsession | 14:23 |
| dingo_ | You need to stop forking, seriously. It ruins people. | 14:23 |
| dingo_ | lol | 14:23 |
| dingo_ | you know you must be doing something right when strangers send you hate mail over your code, huh? | 14:24 |
| kanzure | yep | 14:26 |
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| bbrittain | yo kanzure, you do the whole quantified self thing, right? | 14:43 |
| bbrittain | how do you store your data? | 14:43 |
| bbrittain | like... in csvs? | 14:43 |
| nmz787_i1 | bbrittain: i doubt he does that, but if he did, i bet he'd use yaml | 14:47 |
| bbrittain | aguh | 14:48 |
| bbrittain | I keep trying to get into it | 14:48 |
| bbrittain | but I run into two problems | 14:48 |
| bbrittain | 1) all these apps seem to keep your data in the cloud | 14:49 |
| nmz787_i1 | that's for the insurance companies to use someday, yes | 14:49 |
| bbrittain | 2) no centralized way of analyzing the data | 14:49 |
| bbrittain | I want the data. me. just me. | 14:49 |
| nmz787_i1 | that has been deemed illegal by the FDA or something | 14:49 |
| nmz787_i1 | the last comment about analysis | 14:50 |
| bbrittain | well, probably both :P | 14:50 |
| nmz787_i1 | idk what do you want? | 14:50 |
| nmz787_i1 | like heart beat monitor? | 14:50 |
| bbrittain | GPS data, weight, body fat, sleep info | 14:51 |
| bbrittain | to start | 14:51 |
| AlterSid | will you build the sensors? | 14:51 |
| bbrittain | but stored locally | 14:51 |
| nmz787_i1 | you're a programmer, get the physibles then let's talk more, I think | 14:51 |
| nmz787_i1 | there must be tons of software for pulling data | 14:51 |
| bbrittain | there is! | 14:51 |
| bbrittain | but it all cloud syncs or something similar... or all the devices | 14:52 |
| bbrittain | to start, I can get the GPS data from my phone | 14:52 |
| bbrittain | I've been recording it with this App called moves | 14:52 |
| bbrittain | but the only way to analyze it is to create an account and sync it with their servers | 14:52 |
| bbrittain | unacceptable. | 14:52 |
| bbrittain | I'm plugging in my phone to check how they store it on the phone right now | 14:53 |
| AlterSid | I bet sqlite if android | 14:53 |
| bbrittain | really? I haven't ever done mobile dev | 14:54 |
| bbrittain | wow. I like how Tencent has a root directory. not scary at all | 14:58 |
| bbrittain | yea, the chinese are totally in my phone | 14:58 |
| bbrittain | hmm. QS is totally h+ | 15:00 |
| bbrittain | doesn't anyone do it in here? | 15:00 |
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| kanzure | bbrittain: giant yaml file | 15:23 |
| kanzure | nmz787_i1: i presented at quantified self at least once | 15:23 |
| bbrittain | what a yaml fanboy :P | 15:25 |
| bbrittain | kanzure: do you track location? | 15:25 |
| kanzure | i track people | 15:26 |
| kanzure | by track i mean stalk | 15:26 |
| kanzure | by stalk i mean my main competitor is nsa | 15:26 |
| bbrittain | um. ok. | 15:26 |
| kanzure | i had a video up on quantifiedself.com at some point | 15:26 |
| bbrittain | can you "export" individual people? | 15:26 |
| bbrittain | I think I've seen this | 15:26 |
| bbrittain | about all the emails you send | 15:26 |
| kanzure | well, so, my format is a little dumb but i don't have a good alternative in mind yet | 15:26 |
| ParahSailin | heh, the ga2x is gonna go pretty cheap i think | 15:27 |
| kanzure | i use cyaml + python to parse the data, but it takes like 2 hours to parse correctly, it's really dumb | 15:27 |
| ParahSailin | so if nmz wants to reverse engineer flow cells, its a good opportunity | 15:27 |
| kanzure | i should be storing it in postgresql or mongodb instead but i haven't | 15:27 |
| bbrittain | ugh. mongodb | 15:27 |
| kanzure | well, it's yaml, which is essentially json | 15:27 |
| bbrittain | yea. hmm | 15:29 |
| kanzure | i was thinking of "rating" conversations | 15:29 |
| kanzure | or doing tag weights | 15:29 |
| kanzure | also i don't correctly track from which side of the conversation certain tags come from | 15:29 |
| bbrittain | well, I'm throwing together an app to report back to me all of my GPS coordinates that doesn't get uploaded to the cloud right now | 15:30 |
| kanzure | i'd tell you to use ifconfig on android except that kernel module isn't installed or loaded by default | 15:31 |
| kanzure | oh hey another fun thing to do would be to write a transparent proxy and route all google.com requests through that proxy | 15:32 |
| kanzure | could even be mitmproxy | 15:32 |
| kanzure | write a mitmproxy plugin to use the python google play protobuf library thing, and you can show off all the sorts of data usually collected by an android phone | 15:32 |
| bbrittain | oy vef | 15:33 |
| bbrittain | vey* | 15:33 |
| kanzure | yeah sorta boring | 15:33 |
| bbrittain | 0_o looking at this sample app | 15:33 |
| bbrittain | do people actually enjoy writing these? | 15:33 |
| kanzure | would you believe me if i told you they used to recommend eclipse | 15:34 |
| bbrittain | obviously. you're writting java | 15:34 |
| kanzure | i guess it's more surprising that they convinced everyone to switch from eclipse | 15:34 |
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| bbrittain | ugh... I hate java | 15:37 |
| kanzure | so, it sort of doesn't work as well as writing a java app on android, but you can use kivy if you want to try python | 15:37 |
| kanzure | and also there's ndk stuff for doing c, but i have never done an entire app in just ndk | 15:39 |
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| bbrittain | I've used the ndk before | 15:40 |
| bbrittain | also. I google "quickstart android" | 15:40 |
| bbrittain | google's doc | 15:40 |
| bbrittain | Step 1: Enable the Google+ API | 15:40 |
| bbrittain | NO | 15:40 |
| ParahSailin | kanzure: pm | 15:44 |
| kanzure | pm successful | 15:52 |
| kanzure | .wik solexa | 15:52 |
| yoleaux | "Illumina, Inc. is an American company incorporated in April 1998 that develops, manufactures and markets integrated systems for the analysis of genetic variation and biological function. Using its technologies, the company provides a line of products and services that serve the sequencing, genotyping and gene expression markets." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solexa | 15:52 |
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| kanzure | abetusk: jcline seems to be online at the moment if you want to pester him | 17:58 |
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| ParahSailin | there are 2022025862 unique 18mers in the human genome, in case anyone was wondering | 20:47 |
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| nmz787 | 2 billion huh | 21:33 |
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| juri__ | https://static.hackaday.io/images/3678201408771204639.jpg | 22:21 |
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| nmz787 | juri__: whazat? | 22:23 |
| juri__ | cast aluminium, made from a 3d printed part, using microwaves. | 22:25 |
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