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| archels | http://bdsmcongress.org/ | 01:29 |
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| archels | "Big Data Science in Medicine" | 01:29 |
| archels | ... unfortunate choice of words | 01:29 |
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| archels | (and/or clever viral advertising scheme) | 01:30 |
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| superkuh | paperbot: http://www.cell.com/neuron/pdf/S0896-6273(14)00686-2.pdf | 02:22 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/1732b067ffaa8df7fa5796eeec9b0e8f.txt | 02:22 |
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| kanzure | hm | 08:05 |
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| nmz787_i | friggin widgets | 08:06 |
| eudoxia | whatcha thinking about kanzure | 08:06 |
| kanzure | man i don't know | 08:08 |
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| nmz787_i | too early to think too much | 08:20 |
| kanzure | nah | 08:20 |
| heath | kanzure: https://github.com/wapiflapi/binglide | 08:32 |
| heath | https://sites.google.com/site/xxcantorxdustxx/ | 08:35 |
| nmz787_i | so i got some files from teh FIB yesterday | 08:39 |
| nmz787_i | man the computer it runs on is 166 MHz w/ win NT | 08:39 |
| nmz787_i | the file is a screenshot and the pattern assoc with it, the pattern being X, Y, dwell | 08:39 |
| nmz787_i | i opened it in hex editor and it looks relatively straight forward, but it's not ascii | 08:40 |
| chris_99 | how do FIB machines image stuff? | 08:40 |
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| nmz787_i | 4000x4000 pixels addressable, only 1000,000 dwell-able for any pattern | 08:40 |
| chris_99 | like do they use electrons or something for that | 08:40 |
| nmz787_i | it's basically a CRT | 08:40 |
| nmz787_i | oh, the ions induced electrons to knock-off the material | 08:41 |
| nmz787_i | then they have an SEM electron camera | 08:41 |
| nmz787_i | SEM-type | 08:41 |
| chris_99 | yeah i just meant for imaging rather than knocking off stuff | 08:41 |
| nmz787_i | i'mma try to convert the pattern file back to a binary bitmap | 08:41 |
| chris_99 | gotcha | 08:41 |
| nmz787_i | ya with fib you always knock off no matter what | 08:42 |
| chris_99 | so you've got a SEM image from it? | 08:42 |
| nmz787_i | that's why these days they make combo instruments | 08:42 |
| nmz787_i | with SEM and FIB guns in one chamber | 08:42 |
| chris_99 | ah | 08:42 |
| nmz787_i | man the FIB source was SOOOO tiny, just a lil loop of wire like a spring with a needle tip stickout off the end | 08:43 |
| nmz787_i | and the inside of the spring gets filled with gallium, which when heated doesn't drip out, but wets the needle tip | 08:43 |
| nmz787_i | yeah image looks like SEM | 08:43 |
| nmz787_i | g2g | 08:43 |
| nmz787_i | bbl | 08:43 |
| chris_99 | ah | 08:43 |
| chris_99 | toodles | 08:44 |
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| nmz787_i | so I was thinking the pattern file back to bitmap could be a JS web app | 08:59 |
| nmz787_i | i wonder if there are some viz libs out there that are easy to make 3D rotatable plots | 08:59 |
| nmz787_i | since the dwell could be considered a Z direction | 08:59 |
| chris_99 | mm, don't browsers all do 3D now | 09:00 |
| kanzure | yo uare wondering if 3d plots are a thing? what the fuck | 09:00 |
| kanzure | *you | 09:01 |
| heath | chris_99: http://caniuse.com/#feat=webgl | 09:02 |
| kanzure | there are tons | 09:04 |
| kanzure | i think that using a web browser to render a bitmap is pretty silly | 09:04 |
| nmz787_i | ? | 09:04 |
| kanzure | you should just use files | 09:04 |
| nmz787_i | you think it's silly is silly | 09:04 |
| kanzure | separation of concerns | 09:04 |
| nmz787_i | that doesn't make sense since it's meant to be a visual check | 09:05 |
| kanzure | you don't need an entire web browser to operate a focused ion beam | 09:05 |
| kanzure | you can visualize things without a web browser | 09:05 |
| kanzure | and without http | 09:05 |
| nmz787_i | when did i say it would operate a fib | 09:05 |
| nmz787_i | so what | 09:05 |
| nmz787_i | i want it to be easy and something that is accessbile | 09:05 |
| kanzure | a browser is just a lot of extra functionality to require | 09:06 |
| kanzure | there are many things that are easy that are not browsers | 09:07 |
| nmz787_i | no way, Chrome is a single requirement, python, wxpython, blah blah blah are multiple | 09:07 |
| nmz787_i | you aren't being sensible this morning | 09:07 |
| kanzure | yeah because binaries are fake | 09:07 |
| kanzure | except the chrome binary is real? | 09:07 |
| nmz787_i | it's reach in the world | 09:08 |
| nmz787_i | chrome is everywhere, take advantage | 09:08 |
| kanzure | if that argument was valid then you would be talking about jvm or something | 09:08 |
| nmz787_i | i can choose what i want to deploy with, plus the libs post-jquery are all so easy to use usually | 09:08 |
| kanzure | chrome is a binary just like a binary that uses python, in case that wasn't clear | 09:10 |
| kanzure | heath: binglide looks fun | 09:12 |
| kanzure | heath: it would also be neat to visualize known pointers and where they link. | 09:12 |
| kanzure | pointers could even change the geometry of the visualization | 09:13 |
| kanzure | nsh: see above | 09:13 |
| chris_99 | is this your own FIB nmz787_i | 09:15 |
| nmz787_i | but people don't have python as often as chrome, or other JS enabled browsers, and again chrome is a single install... python has dependency libs that increase installs to be >1 | 09:15 |
| kanzure | people wouldn't need python. that's why it's in a binary. | 09:15 |
| nmz787_i | chris_99: nah | 09:15 |
| kanzure | chrome is not the only single-file binary distribution imaginable | 09:15 |
| nmz787_i | duh | 09:16 |
| kanzure | you think chrome doesn't have dependencies? they wrote everything themselves? | 09:17 |
| kanzure | blink, webkit, ssl, that's all stuff they wrote? | 09:17 |
| kanzure | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25166878 | 09:20 |
| kanzure | "Global Variation in the Effects of Ambient Temperature on Mortality: A Systematic Evaluation." | 09:20 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1097%2FEDE.0000000000000165 | 09:20 |
| nmz787_i | kanzure: but it's all installed by a single installer, and most people already have it installed, placing no burden on them | 09:28 |
| kanzure | haha | 09:28 |
| kanzure | look man, it's okay if you don't want to not use a browser, but don't make up bullshit like "it's the only thing that can possibly be simple" | 09:29 |
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| nell | if I entangle my retina with someone elses, would I be able to see what they see? | 10:41 |
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| nmz787_i | kanzure: why you be lyin' on me yo'? | 12:46 |
| kanzure | there is a world outside of browsers that exists and is easy to use | 12:50 |
| kanzure | how do you explain cell phones anyway | 12:50 |
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| nmz787_i | they have browsers on them | 12:55 |
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| nmz787_i | paperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freeabs_all.jsp?arnumber=4954746 | 14:01 |
| paperbot | http://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1116%2F1.1492426 | 14:02 |
| nmz787_i | paperbot: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/app.1993.070470610/abstract | 14:02 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/696522c7e44d1c616d25672526b0676a.txt | 14:02 |
| chris_99 | nmz787_i, you ever played with x-ray tubes? | 14:02 |
| nmz787_i | nah | 14:04 |
| nmz787_i | working on getting an x-ray meter though, so I can try to verify the one I'm building | 14:04 |
| chris_99 | you're building a tube? | 14:04 |
| nmz787_i | nah detector | 14:11 |
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| chris_99 | ah cool, you can use gieger tubes for that right? | 14:20 |
| chris_99 | *geiger | 14:20 |
| nmz787_i | nah PIN photodiode | 14:20 |
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| nmz787_i1 | https://nanohub.org/dataviewer/view/nanobio:db/community_db_codes_engines/ | 15:54 |
| nmz787_i1 | https://nanohub.org/dataviewer/view/nanobio:db/community_db_tools/ | 15:54 |
| nmz787_i1 | Network for Computational Nanotechnology Purdue University | 15:55 |
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| kanzure | "jurassic" would be a good js library name | 18:11 |
| kanzure | .g site:npmjs.org jurassic | 18:11 |
| yoleaux | https://www.npmjs.org/package/jjs | 18:11 |
| kanzure | .g site:github.com jurassic | 18:12 |
| yoleaux | https://github.com/tojrobinson/jurassicsystems.com | 18:12 |
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| kanzure | hah https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/4789 | 20:37 |
| kanzure | "PGP of course has vast amounts of identity infrastructure already developed for it, infrastructure that simply doesn't exist for "Bitcoin addresses". In any case you'll be happy to know that secp256k1 has been added to the GPG development branch, which means you can sign your code with a ECDSA key corresponding to a Bitcoin address if you wish too." | 20:38 |
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