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| kanzure | "So Lakeland Industries, a hazmat suit maker, put out a press release saying that there's a global shortage of suits but, by lucky coincidence, they happen to have a large supply ready for us. Golly, they sure are helpful with that bit of information." | 01:19 |
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| kanzure | when the poop hits the fans.. people buy hazmat suits. | 01:19 |
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| pi- | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12677222 | 05:40 |
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| kanzure | poor freenode | 07:44 |
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| kanzure | hm i'm trying to find some reasonably skilled recorded livestreams of coding sessions | 09:01 |
| qba | not programming but there are a few recorded wargame walkthrus | 09:04 |
| qba | on twitch | 09:04 |
| qba | overthewire vortex etc | 09:04 |
| kanzure | i want programming | 09:04 |
| kanzure | five hours of constant programming (and not just "do the same thing a bunch of times") | 09:05 |
| kanzure | i was thinking about what the most interesting 5 hour coding stream would look like | 09:05 |
| kanzure | an average coder could fill it up with stuff, but it would be a little spotty | 09:05 |
| kanzure | so like most recorded media you would probably have a production team.. | 09:06 |
| chris_99 | hmm thinking of creating a site for that | 09:06 |
| chris_99 | ? | 09:06 |
| chris_99 | notch does live coding stuff doesn't he | 09:06 |
| kanzure | a 5 hour session wouldn't have to be recorded all at once, technically | 09:07 |
| kanzure | in my head it's always seemed like a nasa mission control thing | 09:08 |
| kanzure | where the programmer would be talking to a few support staff | 09:08 |
| FourFire | notch is hardly pro | 09:09 |
| kanzure | "victor could you make a fucking ticket about that please" | 09:09 |
| kanzure | and then victor does that while you're still coding | 09:09 |
| kanzure | the service could be called dev minions | 09:09 |
| dingo | 12:09 < chris_99> notch does live coding stuff doesn't he | 09:11 |
| dingo | he stopped | 09:11 |
| chris_99 | ah pity | 09:11 |
| kanzure | also there would be service staff to bring you drinks | 09:11 |
| chris_99 | any reason? | 09:11 |
| dingo | yeah, probobly the microsoft wants to buy minecraft deal | 09:11 |
| dingo | he's probobly flippant angry now, haha | 09:11 |
| dingo | http://notch.net/2014/09/doom/ | 09:12 |
| kanzure | seeing a good coder smash out code for a few hours is really something | 09:13 |
| kanzure | also, in that imaginary code streaming thing, text would be transmitted in addition to just the video feed, so watchers can get a version controlled copy in sync with time indices | 09:14 |
| kanzure | or an entire docker container or vm for running the software/dev environment/recording environment | 09:15 |
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| kanzure | and victor minion would fetch you documentation when you ask for it to be ready | 09:16 |
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| kanzure | and there would be a live dj | 09:19 |
| JayDugger | Have you seen of the live coding with Supercollider in Emacs? | 09:21 |
| kanzure | i have seen some supercollider streams of performances (but they weren't focused on the screen of code really) | 09:22 |
| chris_99 | do you have a linky to any, JayDugger | 09:22 |
| JayDugger | meta-ex.com for some examples, but they focus on audio, not code | 09:23 |
| chris_99 | aha | 09:23 |
| JayDugger | Perhaps Joey Hess would know of something more like what you imagine. Does he still do screencasts of terminal sessions? | 09:25 |
| kanzure | i have seen joey hess doing things in screencasts | 09:25 |
| kanzure | although i can't remember which things. ikiwiki git haskell things? | 09:26 |
| JayDugger | You'd know better than I would. I have enough trouble following his written instructions, and there he uses a language I know well: English. | 09:27 |
| chris_99 | you can't see the code they use for those meta ex stuff right JayDugger? | 09:29 |
| kanzure | they sometimes show it | 09:29 |
| kanzure | i think there was a youtube video somewhere | 09:29 |
| JayDugger | I don't know, chris_99. If you can't find it on YouTube, and if google fails, then write them and ask for the code. At worst, they say no. | 09:30 |
| chris_99 | mm, i'll investigate youtube | 09:31 |
| JayDugger | https://github.com/meta-ex/ignite (Their repositories) | 09:31 |
| chris_99 | also you mentioned emacs, does it matter what editor you use? | 09:31 |
| JayDugger | IIRC, they use emacs to control supercollider. | 09:32 |
| chris_99 | ah, so it'd have certain bindings set up | 09:32 |
| JayDugger | Yeah...let me see...two years ago this June I last played with it. | 09:33 |
| JayDugger | I got so far as making Emacs make a noise, but then put it away. It then required some kernel patching and lacked libraries useful for my level of musical skill. | 09:34 |
| JayDugger | I really didn't want to experiment with music at the sound synthesis level, but had some interest in taking an orchestral score and tweaking high-level parameters such as tempo or dynamics, or hearing familiar pieces in different modes or keys or tunings. | 09:36 |
| JayDugger | That would've required more work than I wanted to devote at the time or now. | 09:36 |
| JayDugger | The state of things might have changed a lot in the last 27 months, though. | 09:36 |
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| chris_99 | it does sound kind of fun, i'd like to play with something that does visuals too i think | 09:36 |
| JayDugger | I vaguely remember a related project: Processing in Clojure comes to mind...let me see. | 09:37 |
| JayDugger | https://github.com/quil/quil | 09:42 |
| ParahSailin | kanzure: btw mononcqc was this guy http://learnyousomeerlang.com/ | 09:44 |
| kanzure | cool | 09:51 |
| kanzure | makes sense that heroku hired him | 09:51 |
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| nmz787 | i was thinking there should be a crowd-funding-crowd-sourcing website that people can post projects to, donate to, but also sign up for to complete the required work | 10:16 |
| nmz787 | so for example, if I find a cool opensource project and I want it replicated or manufactured or extended... i'd post what I wanted to be the outcome of the project | 10:17 |
| nmz787 | and someone else could come and sign up to be on the project | 10:17 |
| nmz787 | there could also be community-driven requirements | 10:17 |
| nmz787 | and likewise, community-elected/vetoed membership | 10:17 |
| nmz787 | so you would (reduce at least) random jerks signing up to do work and then getting the funds and 'failing' to complete the project | 10:18 |
| nmz787 | (since kickstarter and the likes really have no liability) | 10:18 |
| FourFire | nmz787, sounds cool | 10:20 |
| FourFire | we need more/better internet-social infrastructure like that | 10:21 |
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| nmz787 | http://cs.brown.edu/~rt/gdhandbook/chapters/crossings.pdf | 11:49 |
| nmz787 | graph stuff | 11:49 |
| nmz787 | the whole book http://cs.brown.edu/~rt/gdhandbook/ | 11:51 |
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| heath | http://www.kalzumeus.com/greatest-hits/ | 12:30 |
| * kanzure nods | 12:31 | |
| kanzure | https://www.truevault.com/blog/how-do-i-become-hipaa-compliant.html | 12:33 |
| kanzure | "Have special contracts with business partners who will have access to your PHI in order to ensure that they will be compliant." | 12:33 |
| kanzure | uh sure.. that'll work.. | 12:33 |
| nmz787 | https://github.com/neo4j/neo4j | 12:37 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, did you see the research I posted on FB? | 12:37 |
| delinquentme | the thing w the assembly line microfluidics? | 12:37 |
| nmz787 | "For many applications, Neo4j offers orders of magnitude performance benefits compared to relational DBs" | 12:37 |
| delinquentme | erm. microfluidics used in a setup akin to an assembly line | 12:38 |
| nmz787 | paperbot: http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlepdf/2014/lc/c4lc00385c | 12:39 |
| kanzure | .title | 12:39 |
| yoleaux | Nanoshuttles propelled by motor proteins sequentially assemble molecular cargo in a microfluidic device | 12:39 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: no i did not see | 12:39 |
| paperbot | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/fae92a2c0dbceb196c6168f5bdcf84f2.pdf | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Nanoshuttles_propelled_by_motor_proteins_sequentially_assemble_molecular_cargo_in_a_microfluidic_device.pdf | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | well they both work at least | 12:41 |
| nmz787 | http://diyhpl.us/~nmz787/pdf/Nanoshuttles_propelled_by_motor_proteins_sequentially_assemble_molecular_cargo_in_a_microfluidic_device__supplment.pdf | 12:42 |
| kanzure | supplement not supplment | 12:43 |
| nmz787 | oh, well they're open-access anyway it seems | 12:44 |
| nmz787 | they are videos | 12:44 |
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| nmz787 | 'The prerequisite for establishing a molecular assembly line inside the presented microfluidic device is that the nano-shuttles move in only one direction and can pass across the subsequent boundaries between adjacent laminar streams.' | 12:50 |
| nmz787 | hm | 12:56 |
| nmz787 | 'Taken together, this channel design made it possible to guide nanoshuttles across stream boundaries merely by shear stress and active transport - elaborate surface patterns were not necessary.' | 12:56 |
| nmz787 | 'because the biotinylated DNA-cargo can on ly be coupled to the nanoshuttles via the neutravidin "adapter" and because biotinylated cargo does not show unspecific binding to biotinylated microtubules' | 13:00 |
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| kanzure | if there's one thing i regret it's that i don't precariously add biotin to all my projects | 13:12 |
| kanzure | precociously? | 13:12 |
| delinquentme | nmz787, you've already read it? Im about to sit down w it | 13:16 |
| delinquentme | any idea what molecules they were assembling? | 13:16 |
| nmz787 | they were packaging 'cargo' not assembling molecules | 13:19 |
| nmz787 | just moving the nanoshuttle via microfluidic flow currents and motor proteins | 13:19 |
| nmz787 | then allowing other stuff to attach if the right adapter was in that local flow | 13:20 |
| nmz787 | as far as I can tell | 13:20 |
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| delinquentme | nmz787, kanzure any idea how AFM tips are mfgd? | 13:44 |
| delinquentme | manufactured* | 13:44 |
| delinquentme | I was told its a really unrefined bashing process ... | 13:44 |
| nmz787 | delinquentme: i basically have made them | 13:44 |
| kanzure | some sort of drip process where you pull up a tip from a vat of some chemical that i forget | 13:44 |
| kanzure | you pull tungsten from uh.. something.. | 13:44 |
| nmz787 | delinquentme: usually controlled breaking, or FIB milling a pulles pipette tip basically | 13:44 |
| nmz787 | pulled-pipette | 13:45 |
| nmz787 | there's probably also chemical polishing methods too | 13:45 |
| nmz787 | that also makes sense | 13:45 |
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| kanzure | 3d printed yoda thing https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1a_Ov8IRohM/VA_i3FDMVXI/AAAAAAAAIF4/YITTjoln9YU/s2048/yoda_littlerp_with_quarter.jpg | 16:40 |
| kanzure | frog https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RxCKvnkRQ-Q/VBKREpjlaZI/AAAAAAAAIHE/xQSBFCxQ0X8/s2048/treefroggie1.jpg | 16:41 |
| kanzure | not bad resolution | 16:41 |
| chris_99 | mm theres some pretty good jewellery ones too i've seen | 16:41 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: who did you connect me with? | 16:44 |
| kanzure | the dude i told you about | 16:44 |
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| kanzure | for pcb routing things | 16:44 |
| kanzure | for the things you have been asking me about for like three weeks? | 16:45 |
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| kanzure | also, are you placed at intel through kelly? | 16:45 |
| nmz787 | yes | 16:45 |
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| nmz787 | i didn't ask why, i asked who | 16:46 |
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| kanzure | oh uh | 16:47 |
| kanzure | someone from http://3scan.com/ | 16:47 |
| kanzure | this one http://craneium.net/ | 16:48 |
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| kanzure | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iir5J6Z3Z1Q | 18:38 |
| yoleaux | Bitcoin Fireside Chat with Marc Andreessen and Balaji Srinivasan - Coinsumm.it | 18:38 |
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| kanzure | http://www.kpcb.com/news/airware-partners-with-nasa-to-develop-a-uas-traffic-management-system | 21:08 |
| kanzure | navigation software still confuses me. | 21:08 |
| kanzure | not the routing parts | 21:08 |
| kanzure | but the "correctly land on mars in the right spot" part | 21:08 |
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| kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8311796 | 21:12 |
| yoleaux | Melting aluminum | 21:12 |
| kanzure | .title http://ericlippert.com/2014/09/12/melting-aluminum/ | 21:12 |
| yoleaux | Fabulous adventures in coding | 21:12 |
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| nmz787 | .wik Voronoi deformation density | 22:53 |
| yoleaux | "Voronoi deformation density (VDD) is a method employed in computational chemistry to compute the atomic charge distribution of a molecule in order to provide information about its chemical properties." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voronoi_deformation_density | 22:53 |
| kanzure | "IN ORDER TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT ITS CHEMICAL PROPERTIES" thanks wikipedia | 22:54 |
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