2014-10-13.log

--- Log opened Mon Oct 13 00:00:08 2014
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nmz787_ipaperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?tp=&arnumber=124012901:13
nmz787_ipaperbot: http://dx.doi.org/10.1109/JMEMS.2003.81806601:14
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/762c2b9cb472d3a0bbd7b55e69160b1e.txt01:14
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/8bb23bbdf1dc0e8d681b5c1156c65fa9.txt01:14
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CathalGHello friends03:36
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archelsgreetings03:46
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CathalGQuiet as ever, I see. Damn you, timezones04:02
archelsthat, and just. y'know. it's IRC.04:05
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kanzurei wonder if he was going to pimp for his new employer07:22
kanzurei need a better way to keep track of all the bitcoin developers. there's like 8 places: bitcoin-development mailing list, github bitcoin issues email notifications, bitcointalk, pound bitcoin, pound bitcoin-dev, pound bitcoin-wizards, pound bitcoin-mining, in some cases hacker news, and a few i'm forgetting.... it's not quite the "just put it into an rss feed" sort of problem either. hrm.07:22
kanzureer, when i wrote that i had to use the word pound because the stupid app i was using wanted #n to reference a github issue. terribly broken interface.07:23
heath"Not saying you will get accepted if you apply to @indbio doing anything commercially feasible with logic gates but your odds are pretty high"07:38
kanzureeven if you get accepted what would you actually do07:39
kanzurei don't think that transcription-based logic gates are commercially viable for computation. just doesn't add up.07:40
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kanzurecounterparty's doing a somewhat large merge at the moment https://github.com/CounterpartyXCP/counterpartyd/pull/33607:43
JayDuggerSo there's a cryptocurrency investment newsletter using github activity as a source of trading signals, right?07:48
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kanzurenewsletter...?07:48
JayDuggerSorry, dating myself with vocabulary.07:49
kanzurei think most people just directly use the exchange api07:49
JayDuggerPoint taken.07:49
kanzurechrome extension that uses mitmproxy/libmproxy http://dutzi.github.io/tamper/07:49
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heathhttps://localmotors.com/3d-printed-car/08:06
kanzure"First of all, OpenTrons is part of Haxlr8r, a hardware accelerator based in Shenzhen also run by SOS Ventures. We went from a prototype and an idea, to a product and a manufacturing operation through the program -- we're launching our Kickstarter at the end of this month. Also, OpenTrons is also going to be working with IndieB.io to automate teams' labwork."08:06
heathjuri_08:06
kanzurevia will canine <willcanine@gmail.com>08:06
kanzureso they raised capital first, then decided to go raise money through crowdfunding too. that's pretty weird. that basically says that sos ventures is uninterested in funding them further.08:07
kanzurehttp://www.crunchbase.com/organization/sosventures08:10
kanzurehuh, formlabs raised $19M last year08:18
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kanzurein tmux if i type bind-key ! to send a pane to a new window, is there a maneuver to send it back to where it originally was?08:39
kanzureoh. z.08:43
juri_heath: boring.08:43
heathjuri_: heh08:43
juri_i keep a close eye on those guys: so far, they've made a printer with a really wide nozzle, and printed a vehicle as ONE PART with a top speed of 4mph.08:43
juri_ever ding your car? how would you feel about having to replace it when that happened? :P08:44
kanzurei would feel confused, i think08:44
juri_meanwhile, i'm printing tyres for a 'ground drone'.08:45
heathi think it's an important proof of concept, bbl phone08:45
juri_that i'll agree on.08:46
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kanzurehttp://michaelochurch.wordpress.com/2014/01/05/vc-istan-8-the-damaso-effect/09:34
kanzure"The startup scene has the feeling of academic politics: vicious intrigue, because the stakes are so small."09:36
kanzurehuh, maybe. except academia has way less funding anyway.09:36
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heath.title http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/business/venture-capitalists-return-to-backing-science-start-ups.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&smid=tw-nytimesscience&_r=009:53
yoleauxLog In - The New York Times09:53
heathbah09:53
heathVenture Capitalists Return to Backing Science Start-Ups09:53
kanzurethere's actually an entire biotech vc world that is pretty dissimilar from technology startup venture capital09:54
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heaththe article mentions the money backing software is still greater10:14
kanzureit's been greater for quite a while10:15
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kanzurehttps://www.dronecode.org/10:37
kanzure"Dronecode includes the APM UAV software platform and associated code, which until now has been hosted by 3D Robotics. The project will also incorporate the partner PX4 project. More than 1,200 developers are working on Dronecode with more than 150 code commits a day on some projects."10:37
kanzure"The result of the project is a common, shared open source platform for Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs). The platform has been adopted by many of the organizations on the forefront of drone technology, including 3DRobotics, Skycatch, DroneDeploy, HobbyKing, Horizon Ag, PrecisionHawk, Agribotics, and Walkera, among others."10:37
kanzurehttps://www.dronecode.org/software/current-projects10:38
kanzurehttp://ardupilot.com/ "Ardupilot is an open source unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) platform, able to control autonomous multicopters, fixed-wing aircraft, traditional helicopters and ground rovers. Created in 2007 by the DIY Drones community, APM/ArduPilot is now one of the world's leading autonomous vehicle platforms. The ArduPilot project has developed to enable a range of hardware and software products, including the APM and Pixhawk/PX4 line ...10:38
kanzure... of autopilots, and the ArduCopter, ArduPlane, and ArduRover software projects."10:38
kanzurehttps://pixhawk.org/start "PX4 is an independent, open-source, open-hardware project aiming at providing a high-end autopilot to the academic, hobby and industrial communities (BSD licensed) at low costs and high availability. It is a complete hardware and software platform, much like a computer, and can run multiple autopilot applications. It is supported by the PIXHAWK Project of the Computer Vision and Geometry Lab of ETH Zurich (Swiss ...10:38
kanzure... Federal Institute of Technology) and by the Autonomous Systems Lab and the Automatic Control Laboratory as well from a number of individuals."10:38
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kanzure"I wish the Linux Foundation would be more progressive with naming the project. One of the member orgs, Skyward, has already switched away from the word 'drone' to a much more descriptive 'aerial robotics'."10:39
kanzure.title http://www.linuxfoundation.org/news-media/announcements/2014/10/linux-foundation-and-leading-technology-companies-launch-open10:39
yoleauxLinux Foundation and Leading Technology Companies Launch Open Source Dronecode Project | The Linux Foundation10:39
kanzuresome packages/applications/things https://pixhawk.org/firmware/apps/start10:41
kanzurehttps://github.com/PX4/Firmware10:41
kanzurehttp://groups.google.com/group/px4users10:42
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nellkanzure today is the day of the meetup, and I have been unsuccessful in getting in touch with Dr. Rothblatt :(10:44
nellit was her birthday last friday and her company is closed on weekends and I suspect today as well as its Columbus day..10:44
heath.music10:46
heath!music10:46
kanzureone moment, you can't expect me to react that fast, jeesh10:46
kanzureheath: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0kn4fQaMRQ10:46
heathneed a music bot10:46
heathor that10:46
kanzureactually, disregard10:47
kanzurethis one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFNmf9Plv7k10:47
heathtoo late10:47
heathwill play next though :)10:47
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kanzurei forgot about https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/howto/legacy-databases/11:04
kanzurenice magic trick11:04
kanzurehttps://github.com/jeffknupp/sandman "Given a legacy database, sandman not only gives you a REST API, it gives you a beautiful admin page and opens your browser to the admin page. It truly does everything for you, you ungrateful lazy pleb."11:04
kanzurehttps://pypi.python.org/pypi/sqlacodegen "a tool that reads the structure of an existing database and generates the appropriate SQLAlchemy model code, using the declarative style if possible."11:08
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juri_kanzure: has nell been trying to get ahold of you?11:38
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kanzureall sorts of weird ways11:40
kanzurealusion is a total troll11:40
kanzureand it is annoying11:40
nellI'm NOT11:40
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juri_nell is not a troll. i've even entered a hackathon with him.11:47
nelldon't have a lot of time now...11:48
nellThis is why we can't have nice things.11:48
kanzurethen what the fuck do you call this shit?11:50
kanzure17:30 < alusion> That is fascinating actually. Do you see yourself obtaining a pokemon in the near future?11:50
nellI never said that11:51
juri_he seems to believe having Dr. Rothblatt at a meetup tonight is important, and i can at least vouch for his 'vision'.11:51
kanzuredeny everything, good strategy11:53
kanzurei don't know why you think i have secret access to manipulate martine's calendar. i don't even know this person.11:54
kanzureso stop asking me.11:54
kanzure(unseen: various pm's)11:54
nellUntil there's a typeface for sarcasm we shall not attempt it during this short window of opportunity11:54
nellwhat about through natasha?11:55
nellI dont need access to manipulate her calendar, I just need her attention for one sparse moment11:55
kanzurei thought you already spoke to natasha11:56
nellshe said the best she could do is forward my email11:56
nellno response from either since then11:57
kanzureman, good thing you never trolled me in the past11:57
nellI wouldn't bother you if it wasn't this important..11:58
kanzuredingo: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/python-cffi/6jhzaPn8E2A11:58
nellsince you didn't read the pm, I said I'd buy you dinner too.11:58
nellif we can be successful in doing this one favor..12:00
nellfor the community at large12:02
nellfor the initiative and the movement, we need to plant this seed.12:03
heath.seen fenn12:04
yoleauxI saw fenn 20 Aug 2014 23:21Z in ##hplusroadmap: <fenn> plastic conduit/PVC pipe (none of the above)12:04
* juri_ worries about fenn12:06
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jrayhawk_i think the conclusion of that conversation is that we are all kanzure's pokemon12:14
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jrayhawk_"11:51 < nell> I never said that" is pretty laffo, though12:14
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jrayhawk_as if google doesn't exist12:18
nellgtg now12:19
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kanzure.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fZ5wJdLwfc12:26
yoleauxRogier & Stage van H - Morning Call // Abstract Space Records - YouTube12:26
kanzure.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loVGt6Qj9UY12:27
yoleauxRogier & Stage Van H - Spacedive (Original Mix) - Abstract Space Recordings - YouTube12:27
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kanzurehttps://soundcloud.com/user4164800/progressive-disorder-01012:41
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kanzurehttp://patshaughnessy.net/2014/10/13/following-a-select-statement-through-postgres-internals12:53
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archelshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFPSAwr72iM13:01
archels(music)13:02
kanzureArvind Gupta <arvind.gupta@sosventures.com>13:17
drethelinwhy are you putting that email in here13:19
kanzurestalkety stalk13:19
kanzurecathal disclosed it in public13:19
kanzurehe's been known to go back and delete his "public emails".. gotta remind him the internet don't work like that, yo.13:20
drethelinrude13:21
kanzureyeah!13:21
kanzurehe shouldn't get away wit hthat13:21
kanzure*with that13:21
kanzuremakes the rest of us look crazy n' such13:21
kanzure"well i'm pretty sure there are 1300 emails missing"13:21
kanzurehere is a dose of wtfjapan for the day https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK3NMZAUKGw13:25
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justanotheruserkanzure: actually sounds pretty good13:34
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ebowdenpaperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2068045913:39
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1007%2Fs11064-010-0235-y13:39
ebowdenpaperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2370790313:40
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1016%2Fj.ejphar.2013.05.00213:40
ebowden\:D/13:40
kanzure"consisting of Suzuka Nakamoto as "Su-metal", Yui Mizuno as "Yuimetal", and Moa Kikuchi as "Moametal""13:45
kanzurehmm13:45
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kanzure"both were just 10 years old at the time" might as well just have some fetuses dragging themselves around to the same music13:46
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archelshttp://www.tricorderproject.org/blog/tag/openct/14:02
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heathpaperbot: http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=6886125&url=http%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fstamp%2Fstamp.jsp%3Ftp%26arnumber%3D688612514:34
paperbothttp://libgen.org/scimag/get.php?doi=10.1109%2FMIC.2014.8914:34
heath.title https://github.com/scalyr/cloud-costs14:48
yoleauxscalyr/cloud-costs · GitHub14:48
heath"Web-based tool for finding the cheapest cloud server for a given set of requirements"14:48
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kanzure"This is an excellent point that is missed in most monitoring setups I've seen. A classic example is some request that kills your service process. You get paged for that so you wrap the service in a supervisor like daemon. The immediate issue is fixed and, typically, any future causes of the service process dying are hidden unless someone happens to be looking at the logs one day."15:02
kanzure"The subcritical alerts I think of are more things like "Well, the database is _getting_ full, but it's not full yet." Or to borrow someone else's example, "we put in this daemon restarter when it was dying once a week; now it's dying every few minutes and we're only surviving because our proxy is masking the problem but soon it's going to take the whole site down.""15:02
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kanzureeudoxia: hi15:11
eudoxiahi kanzure15:11
kanzureeudoxia: read http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/incentives/Rational%20protocol%20design:%20Cryptography%20against%20incentive-driven%20adversaries.pdf15:14
eudoxiaok15:16
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heathhttps://gitlab.brokenpipe.de/stettberger/avremu/tree/master avr emulator written in latex...15:41
eudoxiai'm surprised it's only 10000 times slower15:43
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dingothanks kanzure, it is indeed a problem re: cffi required16:36
kanzurehah don't thank me, i was just looking for a solution16:37
kanzureone of my methods is to hide everything into a post-install step https://github.com/kanzure/python-brlcad/blob/master/setup.py16:37
kanzureinstead though i used a super-clever method of installing python3-cffi in requirements.apt prior to getting python dependencies :(16:38
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heathParallel and scalable computation and spatial dynamics with DNA-based chemical reaction networks on a surface.16:59
heath"Abstract chemical reaction networks (CRNs) provide an all-encompassing formal language for modelling well-mixed chemical systems involving a finite number of species. Showing that arbitrary CRNs can in principle be implemented with DNA strand displacement cascades [*] was a major step toward proving the generality and universality of pure-DNA systems. "16:59
heath"However, well-mixed systems are far less powerful than molecular systems that exploit spatial geometry to encode information combinatorially. While I know of no all-encompassing formal language for molecular machines with geometry, a very broad class of systems can be described as discrete chemical reaction networks wherein each molecule is localized on a surface at grid points, and asynchronous reactions mediate movement and state change."16:59
heath"Here we suggest a pure-DNA implementation using a combination of 3-way and 4-way branch migration. "16:59
heathhttp://www.dna.caltech.edu/Papers/surface_CRNs_DNA20.pdf17:00
heathnew to me17:00
kanzurepaperbot: http://www.dna.caltech.edu/Papers/surface_CRNs_DNA20.pdf17:09
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/367f2facd452a3606b7e3cdb108948a7.pdf17:11
kanzure.botsnack17:11
yoleaux:D17:11
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andytoshihey, anyone registered for cryonics willing to chat a couple minutes about costs? i just got some life insurance quotes from a lawyer and think the plans he suggested might be overkill..17:35
andytoshiin PM17:35
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kanzureandytoshi: just email Max More <max@maxmore.com> asking for a time to call, he and alcor are all super nice.17:37
drethelinantytoshi nothing wrong with a bit of overkill17:37
drethelinhelps protect against prices going up17:37
drethelinplus you can always assign excess funds to otherthings17:37
andytoshikanzure: oh, wow, cool, i'll try that17:38
kanzurealso by call i mean email, they are into email too17:38
andytoshidrethelin: sure, but i don't know a lot about this, i'm just going by the minimums quoted on alcor and cryonics institute site17:38
kanzurei think their student plans are super cheap, can't remember the numbers17:38
kanzurelike $100/head-year or something17:38
andytoshio.O i might be a special case because i am an F1 foreigner..17:39
kanzure"First family member: $590.00 annually or $300 semi-annually or $150.00 quarterly or $51 monthly."17:39
kanzure"Full-time student aged 26 to 30: $465 annually or $234 semi-annually or $117 quarterly or $39 monthly."17:39
andytoshiand that's to the company itself -- life insurance on top of that?17:39
andytoshioh, that's right, i'm younger than 2617:39
kanzurehttp://www.alcor.org/BecomeMember/scheduleA.html17:39
kanzure"$ 80,000.00 Neurocryopreservation ($25,000 to the Patient Care Trust, $30,000 for cryopreservation, $25,000.00 to the CMS Fund). "17:40
kanzuremembership dues are in addition to the insurance, i see. you're right.17:40
andytoshiright, so all the plans this guy gave me were well over 80k (150, 200 and 250 were his suggestions). i don't want full body preservation bc i'm an organ donar17:40
kanzurei don't know if they have successfully done organ donation plus neurocryopreservation17:41
drethelinyou can't be an organ donor and get cryo perserved17:41
kanzureeudoxia would know. he has read all of their case reports.17:41
drethelinat least not as of right now17:41
andytoshiwhy not?17:41
andytoshiweird17:41
kanzurebecause they use your circulatory system to pump shit into your brain17:41
drethelinbecause the hospital takes yourbody and uses it to keep organs alive17:41
andytoshioh, i see17:41
drethelinyeah17:41
drethelinthat too17:41
andytoshiok, i'll have to think about it then. i kinda like my body17:42
kanzurepresumably you also like not being completely dead17:43
andytoshiyes, i do enjoy that feeling..17:43
kanzuresuch is life17:43
andytoshi:P17:43
drethelinif you can get repaired from being frozen you can get regrown17:43
andytoshiyeah, that's my feeling, and i'd bet they could grow me better than i did myself..17:43
andytoshii was just doing random shit..17:43
kanzurev2 needs heat sinks, and lasers17:44
kanzurei think that most organ donation is a little annoying17:45
kanzureif people truly cared about organs like that then they would focus on keeping organs alive over long time periods17:45
kanzureat the moment they just throw 'em away after a few days because they dunno how to keep them living yet17:45
andytoshiweird, not obvious that that is a hard problem..17:46
kanzurewell it depends on your definition of hard17:47
drethelinwell they are working on organ growth17:47
drethelinpart of the problem is they don't have the supply to PRACTICE keepign them alive in a controlled setting17:47
drethelinat least for human organs17:47
kanzurea solution is going to approximately look like "here is a perfusion chamber, here are the reagents and chemicals to pump into it, and here's the in-line measurement stuff"17:47
kanzurekeeping animal organs alive is almost identical to keeping human organs alive17:47
kanzure(in many of the ways that matter)17:48
kanzurelike, oh noes, you have to change the temperature by 0.1 celsius for the human version. psssh.17:48
drethelinyeah probably true17:48
drethelinhmm17:48
drethelinthe people who are growing organs on substrate seem to be keeping them alive17:48
kanzurei want to make a modular set of interconnectable perfusion chambers17:48
kanzurethose are mostly tissue cultures so far17:48
kanzureimagine being able to just switch out organ-based perfusion chambers with non-organ versions17:50
kanzurein the same way that bypass surgery happens17:50
kanzureexcept for all the other useful organs17:50
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kanzure"An elevator serving 50 stories should count more than one stopping at only 10 stories. A better measure would be total elevator stops but as usual you are stuck with the available data - especially difficult to overcome with mult-country data like this."18:11
kanzure"The solution would be to count meters of elevator per person."18:11
andytoshiso my school has a life insurance policy on me so they can ship me home ... i sent them an email asking if i can waive the policy if i have my own insurance and don't want to be shipped home18:12
andytoshii suspect they are not asked that very often..18:12
kanzurethere might be an alcor chapter at your school that you could interrogate18:15
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andytoshidoesn't look like it18:18
andytoshis'fine, iirc i didn't sign anything giving them possession of my body so if i sign something saying they can't have it, it should be sufficient18:18
andytoshithe money is like $20/year or something totally negligible, i just don't want them interfering18:19
kanzurehehe peter thiel making silly (wrong) comments about bitcoin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYjmCOc949I18:25
kanzureandytoshi: not to strike fear into you or anything, but there are various stories about needing a friend around to fend off everyone who wants to dispose of your body through traditional means..18:26
andytoshiok, i've got friends in austin18:26
andytoshii trust i can call you from my deathbed? ;)18:26
kanzuresure why not18:27
andytoshiexcellent18:27
kanzurei might even bring my own cryoprotectants from home18:28
andytoshihmm, maybe i shouldn't be paying alcor all this money18:29
andytoshii'm sure there's no legal problem with you having bodies in your basement?18:29
kanzuregive your money to eugen leitl, i'm sure he would be happy to arrange something18:29
kanzurealthough he's been focusing on snails lately....18:29
kanzurehm.18:29
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kanzureaddress:        Vodafone building18:30
kanzureaddress:        Smart Village, Cairo-Alex desert road KM2818:30
kanzureaddress:        6th of October City18:30
kanzurereally?18:31
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kanzurehahah http://cointelegraph.com/news/112725/bitnation-core-dev-team-resigns-speaks-out-before-crowdsale18:47
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kanzure$8k/genome https://www.genebygene.com/pages/research19:11
kanzure$1k/exome19:11
kanzure"Sequencing a complete human mitochondrion from a cheek swab runs about $300, fully assembled."19:12
kanzure"An actual complete genome, fully sequenced and assembled, runs ~120K" what? still?19:12
kanzurethey might be selling the assembly part, but that's still hilariously overpriced for the amount of computation needed19:12
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heaththiel: "you haven't gotten the payment system to work"19:28
heathpayments work...19:28
kanzure:)19:29
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heathi almost want to give him the benefit of the doubt and believe he's talking about multiparty19:31
kanzurewhen you are worth 800 billion dollars you don't have to be right19:31
kanzurereality operates differently19:31
drethelinare there bitcoin payment systems that work the same way as eg, credit cards online do?19:32
drethelinlast I checked there isn't any system other than "send money to this address"19:32
drethelinwhich is like, yeah you can send payments but it's not a payment system19:33
kanzurethere are even bitcoin debit cards now19:33
kanzurehttps://coinkite.com/19:33
kanzurehttps://xapo.com/19:33
kanzurehttps://www.joinsnapcard.com/19:33
kanzurehttps://bitplastic.com19:33
kanzurehttps://anxbtc.com/19:33
kanzurewait, not anxbtc19:34
kanzureoh. yes.19:34
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kanzurealso, https://coinbase.com/ does paypal's "send money over email" gag19:40
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nellkanzure_19:56
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nellI just wanna let you know that I am skipping over Rothblatt and going right to Itskov :)19:56
kanzure_"The Montgolfier’s were well aware—like most of the human race for thousands or even tens of thousands of years before them—that smoke rises from a fire. They concluded, incorrectly, that there was a special gas in the smoke that caused it to rise. Without any experimental evidence of its existence, they proudly named it Montgolfier Gas, claiming it contained a special property which they called levité."19:58
kanzure_"Subsequently they proceeded to contrive a means to contain it, using (of course) the product that they manufactured: paper. They applied their paper to the inside of a large bag made of cloth; and, in an additional effort to contain their trade-marked special secret gas, they also went to great lengths to ensure that the fires they used to fill their gas bags were dark and sooty—the better to coat the paper and keep their special secret ...19:58
kanzure_... gas contained."19:58
kanzure_"Professor Charles, on the other hand, already knew that hydrogen was lighter than air, and he how to produce it.... The Robert brothers quickly came up with a solution to Charles’ problem. In amazingly short order, they delivered an impermeable fabric coated with latex rubber—a process they had developed as part of their secret, high-tech, black market manufacture of condoms—then very much illegal in devout 18th-century Catholic France."19:58
drethelinbadass science history19:58
kanzure_from http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/05/27/helium-hokum-why-airships-will-never-be-part-of-our-transportation-infrastructure/19:59
drethelinnooooooooooooooooooo20:02
drethelinactually I'm not suprrised20:02
drethelinairships aren't an infrastructure thing20:02
drethelinthey're a luxury thing20:02
drethelinmight as well say yachts will never be part of the infrastructure20:03
kanzure_not sure if you mean the same type of airship20:03
drethelinI'm still gonna keep holding for my own self-driving google manufactured airship20:03
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drethelinI mean like a blimp20:05
kanzure_well blimps certainly work20:06
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drethelinthey work, just not as infrastructure20:06
drethelinthough it's distantly possible they could replace greyhounds or some other fairly slow city to city transports?20:08
kanzure_catapults.20:08
drethelinmeow20:08
kanzure_"In January 2011, PopSci.com, the news blog version of Popular Science magazine, reported that a group of smugglers used a homemade catapult to deliver marijuana into the United States from Mexico. The machine was found 20 feet from the border fence with 4.4 pounds (2.0 kg) bales of marijuana ready to launch.[34]"20:09
kanzure_a rapid assembly/disassembly catapult would work pretty well for those purposes20:10
drethelinmaybe the drug war is good for SOMETHING20:13
drethelincatapult innovation20:13
drethelinplus submarines and whatnot20:14
kanzure_that too20:14
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kanzure_heh ebolacare21:09
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kanzure_this is disgusting: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/our-best-bet-for-colonizing-space-may-be-printing-humans-on-other-planets/22:03
kanzure_in this news article they are claiming that george church came up with the idea of sending only a genome instead of a full person22:04
kanzure_that's a really dumb attribution option.22:04
kanzure_"we have no clue how to safely travel to Mar"22:05
kanzure_why did i chose to look at a vice.com page? that's my bad.22:05
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