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| delinquentme | so pair programming at the end of an interview process sucks. | 00:04 |
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| delinquentme | its coupling social + internal thinking ... and essentially adding endless switching costs to my thought process. | 00:04 |
| delinquentme | why ELSE.. is paid wholly bad / rarified environment for a coding interview | 00:05 |
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| archels | argh--that geometrictools.com website seems to have taken some anti-wget measures | 03:14 |
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| archels | CodeItem("Include", "ThreadSafeMap.h"); CodeItem("Include", "ThreadSafeMap.inl"); | 03:14 |
| archels | JS-generated links | 03:14 |
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| kanzure | .to delinquentme yes i usually refuse to do any pair programming during an interview | 06:39 |
| yoleaux | kanzure: I'll pass your message to delinquentme. | 06:39 |
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| kanzure | hrm | 06:51 |
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| heath | neat, magic leap offices are an hour away | 07:27 |
| heath | or 2 hours | 07:28 |
| kanzure | potato, potato | 07:36 |
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| kanzure | http://www.theonion.com/articles/cia-realizes-its-been-using-black-highlighters-all,1848/ | 07:53 |
| kanzure | http://www.theonion.com/articles/study-dolphins-not-so-intelligent-on-land,1896/ | 07:53 |
| kanzure | http://www.theonion.com/articles/dolphins-evolve-opposable-thumbs,284/ | 07:53 |
| kanzure | http://www.theonion.com/articles/after-checking-your-bank-account-remember-to-log-o,32260/ | 07:53 |
| kanzure | http://www.theonion.com/articles/planned-parenthood-opens-8-billion-abortionplex,20476/ | 07:53 |
| kanzure | that is all. | 07:53 |
| kanzure | now i am caught up | 07:54 |
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| delinquentme | HIO!!!! all | 08:41 |
| yoleaux | 14:39Z <kanzure> delinquentme: yes i usually refuse to do any pair programming during an interview | 08:41 |
| delinquentme | kanzure, you say " no " | 08:41 |
| delinquentme | ? or do you give reasons why | 08:42 |
| kanzure | usually they don't care about my reason | 08:45 |
| eudoxia | kanzure types faster than anyone can read | 08:52 |
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| kanzure | ha | 08:57 |
| kanzure | it's because i consider it very unprofessional to have to look over my shoulder | 08:58 |
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| heath | haskoin is where it's at | 09:20 |
| kanzure | bitcoin implementations are very hard to get right | 09:21 |
| kanzure | because you have to be bug-compatible with existing implementations | 09:21 |
| kanzure | hmm that's the only haskell+bitcoin result in my bookmarks | 09:23 |
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| kanzure | hi davidapfel | 09:24 |
| davidapfel | hi | 09:25 |
| davidapfel | thanks for your answer in diybio google group | 09:27 |
| nmz787_i | cool | 09:30 |
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| nmz787_i | .title http://rogerdudler.github.io/git-guide/ | 09:52 |
| yoleaux | git - the simple guide - no deep shit! | 09:52 |
| nmz787_i | davidapfel: welcome, what end of the world are you coming from? | 09:52 |
| nmz787_i | I sold a rs232-sniffer board last night! whoo | 09:53 |
| davidapfel | right now calaceite, spain...soon moving to buenos aires | 09:54 |
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| davidapfel | i'm looking for health related biohacking projects | 09:55 |
| kanzure | we have at least two people in beunos aieres | 09:56 |
| kanzure | buenos aires | 09:56 |
| davidapfel | oh great! who? | 09:57 |
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| nmz787_i | cool | 09:58 |
| kanzure | kragen and uh... not guido. the other one. | 09:58 |
| kanzure | eightpennies? | 09:58 |
| kanzure | alan? | 09:58 |
| nmz787_i | be back in 15, won't see messages during that time, but I'm interested to learn more about your biohacking interests davidapfel | 10:01 |
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| nmz787_i1 | back! | 10:14 |
| kanzure | "Another caveat is that in any anonymity system in which client churn is present AND users maintain long-lived pseudonyms of any kind, client churn can be used by a smart attacker to de-anonymize clients via intersection attacks. This basically means that if you want "the strongest possible" anonymity protection, you basically either have to (a) never maintain pseudonyms or use time-linkable communication sessions at all (difficult!), or ... | 10:14 |
| kanzure | ... (b) eliminate client churn completely (also difficult!). Our Buddies paper explores this tradeoff and the (admittedly limited, so far) practical defenses that we can build against intersection attacks: <http://dedis.cs.yale.edu/dissent/papers/buddies-abs>" | 10:14 |
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| kanzure | from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8762219 | 10:15 |
| kanzure | "Dissent does not specify or care how exactly a group is formed, and the sybil/sockpuppetry attack protection it provides is inevitably only as strong as the group formation mechanism. Dissent's accountability guarantee basically means that - unlike most anonymity protocols - it is not any more vulnerable to sybil or sockpuppetry attacks than (say) an otherwise-comparable group communication protocol offering no anonymity." | 10:15 |
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| davidapfel | interested in: hacking myself obviously...but maybe starting with cheap, easy-to-do health-tests, maybe an urine test or something and teach it online | 10:23 |
| nmz787_i1 | davidapfel: what's your background, what are your skills? | 10:30 |
| davidapfel | have done something with arduino, python experience, machine learning beginner | 10:31 |
| davidapfel | tought kids how to do irrigation with arduino, hehe | 10:34 |
| nmz787_i1 | one of my plans for this was to integrate it into my water faucet and also toilet https://github.com/nmz787/open-spectrometer/ | 10:37 |
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| nmz787_i1 | so I could loosely look at input and output | 10:37 |
| nmz787_i1 | pretty sure this was in Borat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RgEVYGHnAY | 10:38 |
| nmz787_i1 | .title | 10:38 |
| yoleaux | Bătuta din Reteag / Stamping dance from Reteag village - YouTube | 10:38 |
| nmz787_i1 | hah, .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzL0Hw_vptU | 10:38 |
| nmz787_i1 | .title | 10:38 |
| yoleaux | Bâtuta din Reteag 8bit - YouTube | 10:38 |
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| heath | https://mosh.mit.edu/ | 10:58 |
| heath | "Remote terminal application that allows roaming, supports intermittent connectivity, and provides intelligent local echo and line editing of user keystrokes." | 10:58 |
| heath | this is nice | 11:03 |
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| kragen | kanzure: everyone should be in buenos aires | 11:40 |
| kragen | it is awesome | 11:40 |
| ParahSailin | stuff cheap there? | 11:42 |
| kragen | no. but music and dance are excellent | 11:43 |
| ParahSailin | do i have to dance? | 11:44 |
| kragen | and unlimited cellular internet access is under three bucks a month | 11:44 |
| kragen | are you from the uas | 11:44 |
| kragen | usa | 11:44 |
| ParahSailin | yes | 11:45 |
| kanzure | bug apocalypse will wipe that place out first, you can't trick me | 11:45 |
| kragen | then no. yanquis are exempt from mandatory dancing for the good of everyone | 11:45 |
| ParahSailin | do i have to like music? | 11:45 |
| kragen | no | 11:45 |
| kanzure | i should hook you up with the molecular biology person in your area | 11:46 |
| kragen | but if you don't it probably means you are another ai experiment trying to pass the turing test like kanzure | 11:46 |
| kanzure | he's like some 80 year old guy who does molecular biology and immunology projects in his home | 11:46 |
| kanzure | angry at the world that nobody reads papers | 11:47 |
| heath | kragen: change the laws so i can stay longer than 3 months without having to work for a company down there, and i will come | 11:47 |
| kanzure | 11:35 < beuno> so snappy packages, which are read-only code + writable space per app, and read-only system | 11:49 |
| kanzure | 11:35 < beuno> you get transactional updates on all layers | 11:49 |
| kanzure | 11:35 < beuno> and confinement of each app from each other | 11:49 |
| kragen | heath: some people just overstay their visas, which is illegal but punished by a fairly small fine | 11:51 |
| kragen | others take a day trip to Uruguay every three months minus a day or two | 11:51 |
| kragen | you can see Uruguay from some buildings in downtown Buenos Aires, sort of like Sarah Palin could see Russia from her house | 11:52 |
| heath | kragen: that's cool, i've wanted to live in that area for awhile, but you can't legally get around the laws easily | 11:52 |
| kragen | I think it's arguable whether 4+ε day trips to Uruguay is actually legally getting around the laws, but that's really the problem of the border crossing agents who give you one tourist visa after another | 11:54 |
| kragen | not you | 11:54 |
| kragen | 4+ε per year, 127 nanohertz | 11:55 |
| eudoxia | plus you get to hang out with eudoxia while waiting for your visa :) | 11:56 |
| kragen | oh, are you in Uruguay? | 11:56 |
| eudoxia | yeah | 11:56 |
| kragen | didn't realize | 11:56 |
| kragen | what part? | 11:56 |
| eudoxia | montevideo | 11:57 |
| kragen | makes sense. I haven't been there in a while | 11:57 |
| kanzure | you should rescue eudoxia from uruguay | 11:57 |
| kanzure | also, make sure he doesn't go to college | 11:57 |
| eudoxia | you probably haven't missed anything new, except, i guess pot is legal now | 11:57 |
| kragen | is there much of a transhumanist community there? my tech connections there are via Gaba and Rabble, so much more on the socialist/activist side | 11:57 |
| kragen | pot isn't legal for me there because I'm not Uruguayan! | 11:58 |
| eudoxia | according to my internet detectiving there was a hackerspace here and that's the closest thing there was | 11:58 |
| eudoxia | i'm not going to start the H+ Society of Uruguay because it's just going to be me sitting in the corner of some university lecture room reading David Zindell by myself | 11:58 |
| kragen | have you been for a long time? | 11:59 |
| eudoxia | since i was born, plus minus a few trips to Buenos Aires | 11:59 |
| heath | kragen, eudoxia: check out creativa77, the cto is a former ibm employee who now spends half his time working on the ROS project | 11:59 |
| kragen | heath: I'm sharing the creativa77 office | 11:59 |
| heath | kragen: nice | 12:00 |
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| kragen | I'm actually hearing creativa77 employees laughing about robots in the other room right now | 12:00 |
| heath | heh | 12:00 |
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| kragen | eudoxia: if you visit here I will definitely introduce you | 12:01 |
| kanzure | how far? | 12:01 |
| eudoxia | kragen: thanks :) | 12:02 |
| kanzure | google maps says 15 hours, but the directions involve a detour through texas | 12:04 |
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| * kanzure looks at http://fennetic.net/irc/human_chimpanzee_brain_differences.png | 12:14 | |
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| heath | if hardware is being passed around at my next job, i'm asking for a build box instead of a laptop | 12:24 |
| heath | guess i could ask for a laptop as well since mine's about to crap over with these simultaneous virtualbox builds | 12:26 |
| kanzure | use an ec2 build box | 12:28 |
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| kanzure | "In my more mean-spirited and uncharitable moments, I like to think of Biasocial Science as an enterprise driven by the grand-daddy of all biases: the bias towards believing that cataloging biases advances our understanding of the human condition in a fundamental way that can enable the construction and enactment of a progressive “Ascent of Quantified Man” narrative." | 12:37 |
| eudoxia | that sounds like something dale carrico would write if he could write intelligibly | 12:39 |
| eudoxia | well except for the progressive part | 12:39 |
| JayDugger | Heh, heh, heh. | 12:40 |
| kanzure | .title http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q4/1052 | 12:52 |
| yoleaux | oss-sec: Linux kernel: multiple x86_64 vulnerabilities | 12:52 |
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| archels | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK9yx55X_PU | 13:05 |
| archels | .title | 13:05 |
| yoleaux | NEDO CYBERDYNE "HAL" DEMO - YouTube | 13:05 |
| archels | exoskeleton -- not sure where this is helping/driving exactly | 13:05 |
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| kanzure | grsec stuff https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8763942 | 13:25 |
| kanzure | "Additionally, the person (or team) behind PaX is anonymous and the Linux core refuses to accept patches from anonymous people." | 13:34 |
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| archels | how hard can it be to set up a phony identity on the internet? | 13:41 |
| kanzure | depends on how thorough you want it to be | 13:43 |
| kanzure | you can just buy pre-existing ones | 13:43 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk: was gnusha-irssi-startup ever documented? | 14:36 |
| kanzure | logbot | 14:36 |
| nmz787_i1 | this is pretty darn cool... http://www.zintaglio.com/lens.html | 14:36 |
| kanzure | .title | 14:37 |
| yoleaux | Lumography | 14:37 |
| jrayhawk | kanzure: nope | 14:38 |
| kanzure | http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-ceo-evan-spiegels-email-memo-2014-12 | 14:40 |
| kanzure | "But new email exchanges written by Spiegel to his board members paint an entirely different picture. The CEO of Sony, Michael Lynton, was recently the victim of a cyber attack which unearthed his work emails. Lynton is also on Snapchat's board, so there are a number of exchanges between him, Spiegel and other board members that have been leaked. | 14:40 |
| kanzure | interesting collateral | 14:40 |
| nmz787_i1 | comments with links to more info here http://hackaday.com/2014/12/17/lumographic-images-created-with-lens-only/#more-141203 | 14:41 |
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| fenn | nmz787_i1: that is pretty impressive, i remember his scratch holography work but this is a whole new level of awesome. anselm had described the same thing to me (making arbitrary light patterns with caustics) and i had come up with similar ideas, but the necessary math was beyond me | 14:52 |
| kanzure | quite a leak | 14:55 |
| kanzure | the leak that keeps on giving | 14:55 |
| heath | kragen: actually, if you're near creativa again tomorrow, tell julian I said hi :) | 15:00 |
| * heath is heath matlock | 15:00 | |
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| nmz787_i1 | fenn: are caustics in this case harsh bases? | 16:04 |
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| fenn | no. a caustic is like the ripples on the bottom of a pool | 16:12 |
| fenn | .wik caustics | 16:12 |
| yoleaux | "Caustic may refer to:" — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caustics | 16:12 |
| fenn | .wik caustics (optics) | 16:12 |
| yoleaux | "In optics, a caustic or caustic network is the envelope of light rays reflected or refracted by a curved surface or object, or the projection of that envelope of rays on another surface. The caustic is a curve or surface to which each of the light rays is tangent, defining a boundary of an envelope of rays as a curve of concentrated light." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caustic_(optics) | 16:12 |
| fenn | Concentration of light, especially sunlight, can burn. The word caustic, in fact, comes from the Greek καυστός, burnt | 16:14 |
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| nmz787_i1 | so it's a microbeam, which emanates from a microlens? | 16:15 |
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| nmz787_i1 | microbeam meaning one of all possible beams I guess, which emanate from a single big optic | 16:15 |
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| fenn | just look at the wiki page; the pictures are pretty self explanatory | 16:18 |
| * kanzure gets out his typewriter | 16:19 | |
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| fenn | kanzure they can decode your typewriter keypresses by the sound | 16:26 |
| kanzure | all official letters must be typed using a typewriter | 16:29 |
| kanzure | them's the rules | 16:29 |
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| fenn | i won't believe it until i have a signed sealed official letter | 16:31 |
| fenn | so the GoP/sony hackers are now terrorists too, according to official propaganda channels | 16:34 |
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| delinquentme | kanzoo | 17:17 |
| delinquentme | where you? | 17:17 |
| kanzure | what? | 17:21 |
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| delinquentme | actually I need to reboot. | 17:28 |
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| kanzure | hi shubhamgoyal | 19:23 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure, do you meditate? | 20:40 |
| kanzure | hell no | 20:43 |
| juri_ | smoke weed every day. kanzure is straight gangster! | 20:44 |
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| kanzure | oh right, mars permafrost http://www.planete-astronomie.com/tl_files/photos/Mars/2-Phoenix/PIA10903.jpg | 21:22 |
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