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| kragen | tcl is pretty easy | 00:08 |
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| kragen | the thing about tcl is that while it's super powerful in terms of metaprogramming | 00:08 |
| kragen | it has really pretty shitty semantics | 00:08 |
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| kragen | so it's great as, like, a scripting language, in the purest sense, but it's terrible at building abstractions | 00:09 |
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| kragen | like, lists are just a conventional way to parse strings, and arrays aren't first-class objects, but rather a kind of variable | 00:10 |
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| heath | nmz787, juri_ after you get through LYAH, a gentle intro is good, but after that, you have no excuses not to just build something and learn through experience | 07:08 |
| heath | s/excuses/excuse | 07:08 |
| heath | eve is fun when starting out as well | 07:09 |
| heath | s/eve/elm | 07:09 |
| heath | http://elm-lang.org/ | 07:09 |
| heath | it lacks a lot of features you'll find in haskell | 07:10 |
| heath | but i think it should help you become familiar with using pure functions and recursion :) | 07:11 |
| kanzure | bitcointalk.org scrape 83 GB http://archive.fart.website/archivebot/viewer/job/7i531 | 07:11 |
| heath | ...probably shouldn't go this route though, learning one language so you can grasp another most likely isn't worth the investment unless you're a curious kid in training | 07:16 |
| juri_ | I'm pretty familiar. :) | 07:23 |
| juri_ | anyway, idris. | 07:23 |
| juri_ | I want to do an idris port of implicitcad. | 07:23 |
| heath | juri_: hah, nice | 07:24 |
| heath | gl with that | 07:25 |
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| heath | juri_: have you read this paper yet? http://eb.host.cs.st-andrews.ac.uk/drafts/effects.pdf | 07:25 |
| heath | it's pretty accessible | 07:25 |
| juri_ | will do, in my copius free time. ;) | 07:26 |
| kanzure | nmz787: you could merge the other python-brlcad changes into python-brlcad from my repo, that would be a helpful thing to do | 07:54 |
| kanzure | or at least review their changes (some of the changes seemed a little suspicious to me, so not all changes need to get in, of course) | 07:54 |
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| heath | synbiobeta year in review http://synbiobeta.com/year-review-2014/?utm_source=SynBioBeta&utm_campaign=f9a9340978-Digest_37&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_254b60111d-f9a9340978-78412173 | 07:58 |
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| kanzure | jrayhawk_: git submodule --quiet foreach 'echo $name `git rev-parse HEAD`' | grep submodulenamegoeshere | 09:26 |
| kanzure | jrayhawk_: what is a less dumb way of doing this? | 09:26 |
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| delinquentme | jrayhawk_, is gosu at git? | 11:00 |
| delinquentme | TIL! | 11:00 |
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| archels | .title http://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-06-optogenetic-whisker-space-holodrome-spike.html | 11:37 |
| yoleaux | Optogenetic rendering of a whisker space holodrome with single spike precision | 11:37 |
| archels | what the heck is a holodrome? | 11:37 |
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| kanzure | "On June 6th 2013 guidance was issued, and it should have been disseminated to all personnel with access to classified government systems, which stated that viewing links on personally owned equipment was in no way restricted, and that on government and contractor-owned equipment the only step needed is to report the incident to one's SHO/SSO so that the equipment can be inspected. For further, more detailed, guidance read the message, ... | 11:45 |
| kanzure | ... the title was "Security Reminder - Unauthorized Disclosures in the Press" and is an official policy. Nobody is losing their job because they watched a CCC talk or read a Guardian article." | 11:45 |
| kanzure | neat | 11:45 |
| kanzure | .title https://stribika.github.io/2015/01/04/secure-secure-shell.html | 11:46 |
| yoleaux | Secure Secure Shell | 11:46 |
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| fenn | wow important and actionable information from a security blog for once | 12:50 |
| fenn | makes you wonder why there are only 8 modes | 12:52 |
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| fenn | it would be nice if ssh just had a --really-secure option that disabled all this stuff | 13:09 |
| kanzure | --really-secure-according-to-nsa | 13:09 |
| fenn | you don't actually need to read any leaked documents to read/write that article | 13:12 |
| fenn | the fact that these things are broken is public knowledge | 13:13 |
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| kanzure | "A gram of dry DNA is about one cubic centimeter, so the radius is 0.0062 meters. So, the best DNA storage can do with those dimensions is 5.610^15 bits. A Bekenstein-bound storage device with those dimensions would store about 1.610^38 bits." | 13:23 |
| kanzure | "A Bekenstein bound is Plank-level. Around 8mb per something like a volume of an electron." | 13:23 |
| fenn | also it would weigh a lot | 13:33 |
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| fenn | .wa mass of 1 cc of neutronium in tonnes | 13:36 |
| yoleaux | fenn: Sorry, no result! | 13:36 |
| fenn | .wa neutronium | 13:36 |
| yoleaux | fenn: Sorry, no result! | 13:36 |
| fenn | .c 1cc*(4*10^17 kg/m^3) in tonnes | 13:38 |
| yoleaux | convert 1 cm³ (cubic centimeter)×4×10¹⁷ kg/m³ (kilograms per cubic meter) to metric tons = 4×10⁸ t (metric tons) | 13:38 |
| kanzure | "Second, I’d argue biology has historically been very theoretical. We developed a whole quantitative theory of genetics (Fisher, Wright, Haldane, …) before we had identified what a gene actually was. Hell, it was still debated what matter even looked like at that the microscale (where we knew genes must exist)! In the advent of molecular biology, Watson, Crick, Brenner, Gamow, Delbruck, et al, predicted through (some) experiments but ... | 13:43 |
| kanzure | ... mostly reasoning and conjecture much of what was later found to be true about transcription/translation. There are countless other examples of where theory has driven the study of the origin of life, molecular biology, ecology, et cetera. Only recently, when health science started to dominate biological research, did biology become less theoretical and more focused on individual instances of problems. tl;dr – What’s most scary is ... | 13:43 |
| kanzure | ... that we don’t even know what the foundational questions are anymore for modern biology, and no one seems to even care. Rather than focusing on clearly stated foundations, the field is guided by the latest trends in glamour journals, which tend to obfuscate questions rather than answer them." | 13:43 |
| archels | glamour journals, haha | 13:45 |
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| kanzure | /topic flectere si nequeo superos, acheronta movebo | 14:46 |
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| kanzure | hm why isn't there something like https://www.transcriptic.com/platform/ for mems foundries | 15:37 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20854811 | 15:57 |
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| ebowden | paperbot: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014299910008836 | 15:58 |
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| kanzure | hmm | 18:03 |
| kanzure | .wik Wassenaar Arrangement | 18:21 |
| yoleaux | "The Wassenaar Arrangement (full name: The Wassenaar Arrangement on Export Controls for Conventional Arms and Dual-Use Goods and Technologies) is a multilateral export control regime (MECR) with 41 participating states including many former COMECON (Warsaw Pact) countries." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wassenaar_Arrangement | 18:21 |
| kanzure | http://trilema.com/2015/artifexd-a-better-ircd-rfc/#comment-111244 | 18:26 |
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| kanzure | http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-stick.html | 19:51 |
| kanzure | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8848182 | 19:51 |
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| kanzure | robosapiens are real http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs19/i/2007/275/e/1/Plane_lizard_by_MuddyTheFox.jpg | 20:28 |
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| kanzure | you guys are boring | 21:32 |
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| justanotheruser | no u | 21:51 |
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