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archels_ | .title https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_Q9EZE1oLIqjUZo3oqLAOAyHOs2MPZN4 | 00:01 |
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yoleaux | DGAB Cryonics Symposium 2014 - YouTube | 00:01 |
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voidfire | hi | 02:33 |
voidfire | hi paperbot | 02:33 |
voidfire | eh :( its not here | 02:33 |
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poppingtonic | .wa pluto's orbit | 05:20 |
yoleaux | Pluto: orbital properties | 05:20 |
poppingtonic | .wa pluto's orbital period | 05:21 |
yoleaux | Pluto: orbital period: 247.92065 Julian years; Unit conversions: 7.8237807×10⁹ seconds; 90553.017 days; 247.92574 average Gregorian years | 05:21 |
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kanzure | "Most of the stars in the Milky Way are not visible to us because they are dim due to being on the other side of the galactic disk and our view is blocked by clouds of dust and bright stars in the bulge and disk in between." | 05:46 |
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kanzure | "I am not altogether certain that ET would want to launch a fire and forget probe to virally copy himself across the cosmos. That would make ET an r-strategist and that doesn't fit the profile of intelligent organisms which are usually K-strategists. After all, if there is any chance that you might outlive your host star, why would you spawn potential competitors all over your galactic neighborhood that would make it difficult to ... | 05:47 |
kanzure | ... relocate when the time came?" | 05:47 |
kanzure | .wik barnard 68 | 05:47 |
yoleaux | "Barnard 68 is a molecular cloud, dark absorption nebula or Bok globule, towards the southern constellation Ophiuchus and well within our own galaxy at a distance of about 500 light-years, so close that not a single star can be seen between it and the Sun." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barnard_68 | 05:47 |
archels_ | when I move solar system, I want there to be cappuccino where I land | 05:51 |
poppingtonic | what's an r-strategist? what about a k-strategist? | 06:03 |
eudoxia | is that r/k selection theory? | 06:03 |
poppingtonic | http://www.bio.miami.edu/tom/courses/bil160/bil160goods/16_rKselection.html | 06:03 |
eudoxia | i'd guess an r-strategist is an animal that implements r-selection and has many short-lived offspring | 06:04 |
poppingtonic | right. mammals vs. dandelions. to totally butcher the concept with a probably inappropriate analogy. | 06:04 |
poppingtonic | i think it might actually be appropriate. | 06:10 |
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kanzure | "I once thought I was in love, but then I realized my species reproduces with a cloud of spores." | 06:47 |
JayDugger | Love is in the air! | 06:55 |
archels_ | love is just game theory expressing itself neurochemically | 06:55 |
JayDugger | 'game theory expressing itself neurochemically" is in the air! | 06:56 |
Douhet | game theory seems to really be in touch with its emotions | 06:57 |
poppingtonic | game theory sucks at giving gifts from the heart. | 06:59 |
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kanzure | "ET may or may not want to make copies of himself but we were talking about thermodynamic efficiency and the cost of building a Von Neumann probe would be trivial for an advanced civilization. It would be like one of us purchasing a candy bar. The cost of launching such a probe to the nearest star at 25,000 miles an hour, something we can do today, would cost even less. If somebody did that just once then in just 50 million years, a tiny ... | 08:43 |
kanzure | ... fraction of the life of the universe, the Galaxy would look vastly different from what it looks like today and ET could harvest astronomical (and I mean that word literally) amounts of energy. Your explanation of why we don't see that engineered Galaxy is that out of the billions of individuals in millions of civilizations no one, absolutely no one, bothered to buy that candy bar." | 08:43 |
kanzure | "Be honest now, does this excuse put forward to explain away the lack of large scale engineering really strike you as credible? If you knew for a fact that ET existed but had never seen the night sky is this really what you would predict the sky would look like? I don't see an elephant in my living room so I can reasonably conclude there is not an elephant in my living room. Sometimes a absence of evidence is evidence of absence. " | 08:43 |
kanzure | but how do you know you are not observing large-scale engineering? | 08:43 |
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andytoshi | maybe interesting to many of us http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/22/your_anonymous_code_contributions_probably_arent_boffins/ | 09:05 |
andytoshi | they analyze things like code modularity and claim “our syntactic feature set is impervious to off-the-shelf code obfuscators, which only change layout and some lexical features” | 09:05 |
kanzure | they need to be introduced to https://github.com/zertosh/beautify-with-words | 09:06 |
kanzure | i implemented something similar to thi, but not as a library | 09:06 |
kanzure | mostly because funny | 09:07 |
kanzure | *this | 09:07 |
andytoshi | that's hilarious | 09:07 |
kanzure | replacing variable names in obfuscated js with food or sex | 09:08 |
kanzure | what i would worry baout is copying other people's styles | 09:09 |
kanzure | i definitely know how to pretend to be at least two or three people that have very unique styles | 09:09 |
kanzure | well anyway, i can see those sorts of assumptions being problematic | 09:09 |
nsh | pap--- COME BACK PAPERBOT | 09:09 |
nsh | can anyone read: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nn506832w | 09:10 |
nsh | via: | 09:10 |
nsh | .title http://betabeat.com/2015/01/hack-proof-smart-keyboard-learns-how-you-type-wont-work-for-anyone-else/ | 09:10 |
yoleaux | New Smart Keyboard Recognizes Typing to Keep Computer Secure | Betabeat | 09:10 |
kanzure | .title http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/nn506832w | 09:10 |
yoleaux | An Error Occurred Setting Your User Cookie | 09:10 |
kanzure | nope i don't have that | 09:11 |
kanzure | "Furthermore, the IKB can effectively harness typing motions for electricity to charge commercial electronics at arbitrary typing speeds greater than 100 characters per min. Given the above features, the IKB can be potentially applied not only to self-powered electronics" | 09:12 |
kanzure | typing4humanity | 09:12 |
kanzure | "if he types any sloewr than 200 wpm the entire planet will explodes" | 09:12 |
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archels_ | speaking of keyboards, I ordered this recently http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Wireless-Solar-Keyboard-K750/dp/B004MF11MU | 09:16 |
archels_ | should be waiting for me in a box tomorrow | 09:16 |
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nmz787_i | damn ebay seller is telling me they can't find my shipping info for my laser etcher... asking if they should resend or refund... maybe I'll end up getting two | 09:41 |
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nmz787_i | nsh: I can read it | 09:50 |
nmz787_i | nsh: but pdfparanoia isn't live on the web for use | 09:50 |
nmz787_i | and I'm paranoid | 09:50 |
chris_99 | what laser thing did you go for? | 09:51 |
nsh | it's not hat important nmz787 | 09:53 |
nmz787_i | chris_99: can you see this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=261591526091&view=all&tid=1546725977016 | 09:53 |
nsh | just wondered how much 'science' there was in their keystroke attribution thing | 09:53 |
chris_99 | nah 'This purchased item information is no longer available.' alas | 09:53 |
nmz787_i | damn the price dropped by $20 http://www.ebay.com/itm/DIY-Mini-Laser-200-250mW-Engraving-Machine-Carving-Logo-Picture-Marking-Printer-/201228233547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2eda232b4b | 09:54 |
kanzure | 250 mW what are you going to engrave into, sliced cheese? | 09:54 |
nmz787_i | photoresist | 09:54 |
nmz787_i | exposure | 09:54 |
nmz787_i | it's more than enough | 09:55 |
chris_99 | intriuging, not seen one like that | 09:55 |
chris_99 | before | 09:55 |
nmz787_i | it uses opensource hardware | 09:55 |
nmz787_i | or says it does | 09:55 |
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kanzure | upverter sent me spam about https://forum.upverter.com/ | 10:23 |
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p42___ | Has Eugen been located yet? | 10:24 |
kanzure | he's alive | 10:30 |
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p42___ | but for how much longer? | 11:20 |
kanzure | he has the same deal as dread pirate roberts | 11:21 |
p42___ | the feds got him!? | 11:23 |
kanzure | no i mean the same deal as hte real dread pirate roberts | 11:23 |
p42___ | heh | 11:23 |
ParahSailin | what was he up to | 11:24 |
ParahSailin | allegedly | 11:24 |
p42___ | DRUGS | 11:24 |
kanzure | eugen leitl is not captured | 11:24 |
ParahSailin | natures hugs? | 11:24 |
kanzure | dread pirate roberts is notable because of his deal with the devil (immortality) | 11:24 |
kanzure | eleitl has the same deal | 11:24 |
p42___ | I think that was Faust. | 11:25 |
* p42___ plans to capture and harness eleitl | 11:27 | |
nmz787_i1 | pcb images http://www.eurocircuits.com/blog/171-PCB-PIXture-launched | 11:34 |
kanzure | .title | 11:36 |
yoleaux | Blog - PCB PIXture launched | 11:36 |
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genehacker | hey kanzure, didn't we have someone doing drug design stuff here? | 11:52 |
kanzure | a few people doing molecular dynamics (VESP) stuff | 11:54 |
genehacker | for drugs? | 11:55 |
genehacker | and do you mean VASP? | 11:55 |
kanzure | whoops, yes i do mean VASP | 11:55 |
kanzure | the VASP person i am thinking of mostly is doing stuff about metal transition series stuff | 11:55 |
kanzure | yeah we might not have any drug designers | 11:55 |
kanzure | we should get one | 11:56 |
genehacker | darn | 11:56 |
genehacker | I think I want to design some drugs | 11:56 |
nmz787_i1 | me too | 11:56 |
nmz787_i1 | I've been interested in it for a decade at least | 11:56 |
genehacker | give me a design problem | 11:56 |
nmz787_i1 | I was looking into yeast to setup a serotoning receptor reporter system | 11:56 |
nmz787_i1 | serotonin | 11:56 |
nmz787_i1 | so you could throw molecules at it and learn if they had any effect | 11:57 |
kanzure | genehacker: mimic or bind ot some of these proteins http://diyhpl.us/wiki/genetic-modifications/ | 11:57 |
nmz787_i1 | (serotonergic effect) | 11:57 |
kanzure | genehacker: also, there are various proteins that would be useful drugs | 11:58 |
genehacker | err, I want something with defined binding pocket | 11:58 |
kanzure | enzymatic conversion between blood types http://2014.igem.org/Team:Tuebingen | 11:58 |
kanzure | here's some ideas (but these are cellular, so keep that in mind) http://diyhpl.us/wiki/dna/projects/ | 11:59 |
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genehacker | I don't really care about making real drugs | 11:59 |
genehacker | I just want a toy drug design problem so I can apply my approach to making drugs and get a chemistry paper | 12:00 |
kanzure | how about something that binds to dna | 12:00 |
genehacker | I need something with a pharmocophore | 12:00 |
kanzure | aromas? | 12:01 |
kanzure | various pheromones are well known | 12:01 |
kanzure | like moth sex pheromone | 12:01 |
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genehacker | basically something that says put hydrophobic here, put this group here, etc | 12:03 |
kanzure | you could try to repeat (and improve on) an earlier result in drug design | 12:05 |
ryankarason | i have been studying drug design, maybe i can work toward fitting your 'bill' | 12:07 |
ryankarason | hehe | 12:07 |
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kanzure | genehacker: you could also do neurotransmitter/neuroreceptor ligand binding things. | 12:14 |
genehacker | hey I'm not trying to make those sorts of 'drugs' | 12:14 |
kanzure | perhaps not, but it's a good toy problem | 12:15 |
Douhet | genehacker, can you make a drug that makes a tree grow faster? | 12:16 |
genehacker | sure, give me a pharmocophore | 12:16 |
genehacker | and by sure I mean maybe | 12:16 |
kanzure | how about an antimicrobial | 12:17 |
kanzure | like some of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antibiotics#Status_of_new_antibiotics_development | 12:17 |
Douhet | hmmm | 12:21 |
Douhet | genehacker, exactly what information/detail is in said pharmocophore | 12:21 |
Douhet | elevated cytokinin levels would increase three growth but pharmocophore would describe... either molecules that sense cytokinin levels or produce them? | 12:24 |
genehacker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacophore | 12:25 |
kanzure | .wik | 12:25 |
yoleaux | Search for an article on Wikipedia | 12:25 |
kanzure | .wik pharmacophore | 12:25 |
yoleaux | "A pharmacophore is an abstract description of molecular features which are necessary for molecular recognition of a ligand by a biological macromolecule. The IUPAC defines a pharmacophore to be "an ensemble of steric and electronic features that is necessary to ensure the optimal supramolecular interactions with a specific biological …" — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacophore | 12:25 |
genehacker | drug design is like making a key, you are trying to find a molecule that fits into another molecule | 12:25 |
genehacker | a pharmocophore is like a description of what shape the key should be | 12:26 |
kanzure | antimicrobials seems like a good option then | 12:26 |
kanzure | receptors tell you the shape (roughly) | 12:26 |
tastybuds | Or a microbe booster | 12:26 |
tastybuds | Hi | 12:27 |
genehacker | roughly is typically not enough from what I here | 12:27 |
kanzure | genehacker: what's the best result that is similar to what you want, that people previously figured out | 12:29 |
genehacker | I think I'll do some HIV receptor or something | 12:29 |
ryankarason | quantifying the relationships between fungi and plants might be a good start for "make[ing] a drug that makes a tree grow faster" | 12:31 |
ryankarason | anyone here done any work on making "myco-composites" ? | 12:32 |
nmz787_i1 | i've read up on them | 12:33 |
nmz787_i1 | there were some guys from RPI doing than when I started at RIT | 12:34 |
ryankarason | i find it /really/ hard to find papers on them. so i plan to start doing expirements myself and start documenting. | 12:36 |
nmz787_i1 | there's also the book 'mycelium running' which is probably the closest thing to a bible on neat myco stuff | 12:37 |
Douhet | hm, so to answer genehacker's requirement I need to find descriptions of histidine kinases CRE1/AHK4, AHK2, and AHK3. Out of my league | 12:40 |
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nmz787_i1 | 'Here's another cool way to think about just how small 14nm is. Your hair grows about 4nm per SECOND!!' | 12:45 |
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Douhet | nmz787_i1, on average? | 12:46 |
Douhet | or during a growth phase | 12:46 |
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nmz787_i1 | Douhet: no idea, random internet person being quoted | 12:58 |
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kanzure | maybe that's total hair growth | 13:44 |
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nmz787_i | kanzure: know anything? "If anybody has been involved with a successful MoinMoin --> MediaWiki conversion, (or MoinMoin --> anything else) please let me know how it was done. " | 13:50 |
nmz787_i | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/wxpython-users/3xUqch1qwhg | 13:52 |
kanzure | with great suffering | 14:01 |
ryankarason | nmz787_i: aye. i have mycellium running, but only read about 100 pages of it thus far. need to finish it sometime… | 14:03 |
heath | https://github.com/glamp/bashplotlib | 14:18 |
heath | "plotting in the terminal" | 14:18 |
heath | can't recall if i've linked before or if someone else did | 14:19 |
heath | it isn't dependent on node.js unlike the last plotting lib i linked to | 14:19 |
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kanzure | cc dpk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2lB_dpW2_o | 14:26 |
dpk | .title | 14:26 |
yoleaux | Let's Play: Type:Rider - Wer hat's erfunden? - Folge 8 - YouTube | 14:26 |
dpk | ty | 14:26 |
kanzure | whoops wrong channel | 14:33 |
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nmz787_i | would it be innaccurate to describe node.js as the Python interpreter of the javascript language? | 14:45 |
chris_99 | isn't node.js more of a framework though, rather than an interpretter | 14:45 |
nmz787_i | LOL @ http://i.imgur.com/ocWDwcU.jpg | 14:46 |
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chris_99 | i was looking at another laser cutter that guys solds | 14:50 |
chris_99 | sells for £99 | 14:50 |
chris_99 | postage is £340 | 14:50 |
nmz787_i | hahahah | 14:50 |
chris_99 | *sells | 14:50 |
nmz787_i | yeah there are some that are like $30 with $100 shipping | 14:50 |
nmz787_i | I paid $120 flat | 14:51 |
chris_99 | mmm | 14:51 |
nmz787_i | but I guess I ordered like a month ago :/ | 14:51 |
kanzure | nodejs uses v8 to interpret and execute javascript | 14:51 |
kanzure | nodejs is a bundle of default bindings to various system libraries, essentially | 14:51 |
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nmz787_i | it seems wrong to call that plotting lib bashplot, when it uses python | 14:55 |
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nmz787_i | lego car | 16:43 |
nmz787_i | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTXqQXraWwA#t=65 | 16:43 |
yoleaux | Raul Oaida: Inventing Inspiration, One Piece at a Time - YouTube | 16:43 |
nmz787_i | (also intel ad) | 16:43 |
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kanzure | hmm | 17:58 |
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kanzure | http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/science/2015/01/15/instead-zooming-mit-scientists-blow-brain-cells/ahqpkctFFKJsER5xcNEQXO/story.html | 18:13 |
kanzure | "But instead of spawning killer ants or a 50-foot giantess, the researchers have found a controlled way to cause a tissue sample swell to roughly four and a half times its size -- enough to make features of brain cells or cancer cells discernible under conventional microscopes." | 18:13 |
kanzure | "“One of our lab’s strategies is to do the opposite of what everyone else seems to be doing,” said MIT neuroscientist Edward Boyden. “One of the ideas we were kicking around was if you make a sample big enough, could you take a picture of viruses or something else really small with your cell phone? We’re nowhere near that, but it’s the kind of thinking we’re exploring now.”" | 18:14 |
kanzure | .title http://www.sciencemag.org/content/early/2015/01/14/science.1260088 | 18:14 |
yoleaux | Expansion microscopy | 18:14 |
kanzure | "The new technique, called “expansion microscopy” can’t yet reach the level of fine-scale resolution of electron microscopes or the super-resolution microscopes that won the Nobel last year. But it may offer an inexpensive way for people to examine fine cellular structures at a detailed level using off-the-shelf ingredients. | 18:14 |
kanzure | "Researchers first attach glowing tags to the particular molecules they are interested in seeing -- for example, they might choose receptors found on the surface of a particular kind of cell. Next, they add the building blocks of a polymer that is more commonly found in baby diapers, used to absorb moisture. A substance that Boyden compares to meat tenderizer is used to strip away molecules that could constrain the tissue from expanding. ... | 18:15 |
kanzure | ... Last, they add water, which is absorbed by the polymer and swells up. The swollen tissues can then be examined under microscopes commonly found in research facilities. In the paper, the researchers meticulously checked to make sure that the expansion occurred evenly in each direction and found that it did -- within 1 percent to 4 percent." | 18:15 |
kanzure | "His team will publish a website explaining exactly how to perform the technique, in the hope that it will be widely adopted by scientists. The team is also applying for a patent on the technology, in case it can be further developed for medical applications." | 18:15 |
kanzure | "Two years ago Karl Deisseroth, a neuroscientist at Stanford University who was Boyden’s postdoctoral adviser, developed a powerful technique called CLARITY that turns brains transparent using a similar process. Deisseroth said in an e-mail that the researchers had noted then that the process enlarged the brain tissue moderately, which was a problem they needed to correct. They added an additional step to shrink it back to normal size." | 18:15 |
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justanotheruser | Should I print circuits with a laser printer, or some other better method? | 18:32 |
kanzure | .wa surface area of earth ocean | 18:32 |
yoleaux | oceans: area: Summary: total: 3.409×10⁸ km²; largest: 1.556×10⁸ km² (Pacific Ocean); smallest: 1.41×10⁷ km² (Arctic Ocean); Ranked values: |: visual: ratios: 1: Pacific Ocean: | 11.03: 1; 2: Atlantic Ocean: | 5.844: 0.5297; 3: Indian Ocean: | 4.862: 0.4407; 4: Southern Ocean: | 1.442: 0.1307; 5: Arctic Ocean: | 1: 0.09064 | 18:32 |
kanzure | .wa (3.409 * 10^8 km^2) / (35 km^2) | 18:34 |
yoleaux | (3.409×10⁸ km² (square kilometers))/(35 km² (square kilometers)): 9.74×10⁶ | 18:34 |
kanzure | "I think the main point of conflict over the debate in this thread arises from people considering two different phenomenon. John Clark is making the important point that the giant lack of obvious large-scale engineering is STRONG EVIDENCE in favor of there being no civilizations in our galaxy that have the capacity for large-scale engineering. In the last few emails I have counted >10 nice, creative alternative hypotheses for why we ... | 18:44 |
kanzure | ... don't see some specific type of this evidence, and these are very helpful to clarify where the null hypothesis might be wrong. However, it's important to make this distinction, that where our priors strongly suggest that large-scale engineering would be visible as large-scale engineering, alternative hypotheses need to be extraordinarily powerful and explanatory to beat out the null hypothesis. I am glad we are generating all these ... | 18:44 |
kanzure | ... other thoughts, but it should be noted that the obvious leader is that there exist no such civilizations. It may help our cumulative understanding to keep this in mind, consider all the evidence that there is no such civilization, and if someone has a hypothesis that they think is strong enough to be in the top 2 or 3 (of course others are helpful to mention to, but with the caveat that they're improbable), they note the predictive ... | 18:44 |
kanzure | ... power of that and why it can explain many of the phenomenon we see." | 18:44 |
kanzure | well how about "it's all been interpreted as natural phenomena and astrophysics"? | 18:44 |
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kanzure | dread pirate roberts opsec stuff https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8929906 | 20:41 |
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kanzure | http://citpsite.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/oldsite-htdocs/pub/coldboot.pdf | 21:24 |
kanzure | "We also confirmed that decay rates vary dramatically with temperature. We obtained surface temperatures of approximately −50C with a simple cooling technique: discharging inverted cans of “canned air” duster spray directly onto the chips. At these temperatures, we typically found that fewer than 1% of bits decayed even after 10 minutes without power. To test the limits of this effect, we submerged DRAM modules in liquid nitrogen ... | 21:24 |
kanzure | ... (ca. −196C) and saw decay of only 0.17% after 60 minutes out of the computer." | 21:24 |
kanzure | "To prevent cold boot attacks you can store the key in a CPU register instead of memory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRESOR " | 21:25 |
kanzure | "Ulbricht's Samsung 700Z laptop used DDR3 RAM. These guys couldn't reproduce the "cold boot"/"RAM freeze" attack using DDR3 RAM: http://www1.cs.fau.de/filepool/projects/coldboot/fares_coldboot.pdf " | 21:25 |
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delinquentme | Readily available hosue hold items which are near atomically flat? | 21:53 |
kanzure | hair | 21:54 |
kanzure | fly hair | 21:55 |
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nmz787 | kanzure: python brl-cad isn't working for an rcc | 22:16 |
nmz787 | what were you saying to do to debug the crash? | 22:16 |
nmz787 | hmm | 22:17 |
nmz787 | well, anyway I was stupid and not checking the geometry tree list in mged :P | 22:23 |
nmz787 | it is working | 22:23 |
nmz787 | :) | 22:23 |
nmz787 | it does look like the primitive args aren't identical to what mged says | 22:24 |
nmz787 | in general, what should I do to start debugging... I am currently searching the error string 'Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 22:25 |
nmz787 | ' | 22:25 |
nmz787 | and also 'python swig' | 22:25 |
nmz787 | debug | 22:26 |
nmz787 | looks to RMS's example | 22:29 |
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nmz787 | here's what gdb shows after apt-get installing python-dbg: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/Uc2G7gr04G9Ytke4WveQ/ | 22:37 |
pasky | oh, no paperbot :( | 22:43 |
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nmz787 | whatcha need? | 23:13 |
nmz787 | kanzure: here is the bt full http://paste.pound-python.org/show/gmUKVKnhmDlOWzkWUY5E/ | 23:13 |
nmz787 | got it using this https://blog.cryptomilk.org/2010/12/23/gdb-backtrace-to-file/ | 23:13 |
nmz787 | .title | 23:13 |
yoleaux | gdb backtrace to file • Andreas Schneider | 23:13 |
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nmz787 | delinquentme: http://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow/diy-graphene-how-to-make-carbon-layers-with-sticky-tape/ | 23:27 |
nmz787 | .tell delinquentme http://www.scientificamerican.com/slideshow/diy-graphene-how-to-make-carbon-layers-with-sticky-tape/ | 23:27 |
yoleaux | nmz787: I'll pass your message to delinquentme. | 23:27 |
nmz787 | .tell delinquentme http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphene#Adhesive_tape | 23:29 |
yoleaux | nmz787: I'll pass your message to delinquentme. | 23:29 |
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