2015-03-26.log

--- Log opened Thu Mar 26 00:00:33 2015
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mosasaur"Dr. Kumar will describe the challenges in developing small, agile robots ..." Someone's crossing the development streams here.04:58
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cluckjyou're not supposed to cross the streams :(05:20
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nickjohnson£300 left to the goal on my KS, the tension is killing me.05:36
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CaptHindsightnickjohnson: silent corduroy for military? link?06:04
nickjohnsonCaptHindsight: whaaat?06:05
CaptHindsightjust wondering what your project is06:05
chris_99didn't someone actually invent silent velcro heh06:06
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nickjohnsonCaptHindsight: http://kck.st/1GdYIVu06:12
* mosasaur wonders if this device can be somehow be used to sync RTLSDR dongles06:18
superkuhAs much as any clock generator, but there'll still be the problems with no meta-data and USB latency and weirdness.06:25
chris_99i found a new use for my electrophoresis psu, powering my nixies06:26
superkuhOh, wait, no. You'd need to multiply it. You need a 28.8 MHz signal for the rtlsdr.06:26
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kanzurepaperbot: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/acsnano.5b0106006:55
kanzure.title06:55
kanzurehmph06:55
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/Neural%20Stimulation%20and%20Recording%20with%20Bidirectional%2C%20Soft%20Carbon%20Nanotube%20Fiber%20Microelectrodes.txt06:55
yoleauxkanzure: Sorry, that command (.title) took too long to process.06:55
kanzure"Neural Stimulation and Recording with Bidirectional, Soft Carbon Nanotube Fiber Microelectrodes"06:56
kanzure"The development of microelectrodes capable of safely stimulating and recording neural activity is a critical step in the design of many prosthetic devices, brain machine interfaces and therapies for neurologic or nervous-system-mediated disorders. Metal electrodes are inadequate prospects for the miniaturization needed to attain neuronal-scale stimulation and recording because of their poor electrochemical properties, high stiffness and ...06:56
kanzure... propensity to fail due to bending fatigue. Here we demonstrate neural recording and stimulation using carbon nanotube (CNT) fiber electrodes. In vitro characterization shows that the tissue contact impedance of CNT fibers is remarkably lower than state-of-the-art metal electrodes, making them suitable for recording single neuron activity without additional surface treatments. In vivo chronic studies in parkinsonian rodents show that ...06:56
kanzure... CNT fiber microelectrodes stimulate neurons as effectively as metal electrodes with ten times larger surface area, while eliciting a significantly reduced inflammatory response. The same CNT fiber microelectrodes can record neural activity for weeks, paving the way for the development of novel multifunctional, dynamic neural interfaces with long-term stability."06:56
kanzure"In collaboration with the Pasquali lab, we have developed a fabrication method for stereotrodes made from 40 um diameter CNTfs which are coated in an insulating elastomer (2 um layer), leaving only the tips exposed. In vitro and in vivo have been conducted to characterize the electrochemical stability of the electrodes. Over a week of chronic current pulsing in phosphate buffered saline (PBS), we have shown with impedance spectroscopy ...06:57
kanzure... and cyclic voltammetry that the CNTfs are stable. They are also shown to have a larger charge storage capactiy and water window relative to platinum iridium (PtIr) stereotrodes of similar size. These stereotrodes have been implanted in the GPi of a cohort of rats (n = 4) for 6 weeks and voltage transients were recorded regularly over this time period to confirm in vivo stability."06:57
kanzure"On the internet, nobody understands that nobody else understands 'nobody cares if you are a dog'."07:25
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kanzurehttp://www.black-swift.com/ "a tiny — almost coin-sized — computer with 32-bit CPU, megabytes of memory, integrated 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi, USB 2.0, and other interfaces"08:05
kanzure"25 GPIO lines, hardware SPI and UART, software I2C, 1-wire, and PWM support. Two Ethernet interfaces, an USB 2.0 port and 802.11 b/g/n Wi-Fi with onboard antenna"08:06
chris_99$26!!!08:08
chris_99do they think we're made of money ;)08:08
cluckjaww it's so cute08:09
CaptHindsightQualcomm Atheros AR9331 SoC08:15
CaptHindsightI was looking over the microfluidic dna sythesizers ...http://www.nature.com/nrd/journal/v11/n8/images/nrd3799-f2.jpg08:19
CaptHindsighthow useful is something with so few chambers?08:20
CaptHindsightor is this interesting since it's a single chip design?08:21
CaptHindsightdon't you want each chamber to have individual temp control08:24
kanzuresomething with that many valves is much harder to debug08:30
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kanzurei think a continuous flow design would be much simpler to implement08:31
kanzuremost of the macro-sized dna synthesizers have <16 columns anyway.08:31
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/synthesis/08:32
kanzuresee figure 1a for another design (trace the input/output flow carefully) http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/synthesis/Synthesis%20-%20Microfluidic%20PicoArray%20synthesis%20of%20oligodeoxynucleotides%20and%20simultaneous%20assembling%20of%20multiple%20DNA%20sequences%20(10%20kb).pdf08:34
CaptHindsightalso depends on how much you want to make, we were making 2L at a time08:35
CaptHindsightthe next design was for 1K Liter batches08:36
kanzurecouldn't you just use pcr08:38
CaptHindsightthese PicoArrays are for uL sizes08:38
kanzureonce you synthesize the strands, you cna just copy them- you don't need to synthesize multiple kilograms08:39
kanzure*can08:39
CaptHindsightyeah08:39
CaptHindsightseed and copy08:39
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CaptHindsightI'm just looking at designing for mass production and automation08:40
kanzurein microfluidic designs the chambers are usually for synthesizing different strands simultaneously in parallel08:40
kanzureand then you later combine them08:40
CaptHindsightautomating that combining part would speed things up08:41
kanzureafaik nobody has actually done a 1024x1024 pixel (or greater) microfluidic dna synthesizer anyway08:47
kanzureso just making such a device in the first place would be a step up08:47
kanzuremake some 50 bp strands in each pixel/well/location, combine. sequence after each combination, throw away anything wrong. etc.08:48
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CaptHindsighthttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/Maskless%20fabrication%20of%20light-directed%20oligonucleotide%20microarrays%20using%20a%20digital%20micromirror%20array.pdf09:09
kanzurealso http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/optics/photolithography/09:10
CaptHindsight600 x 800 using a dlp09:10
kanzurei'm sure we could do better these days09:10
CaptHindsight1920 x 108009:10
kanzurebut yeah even 600x800 is useful09:10
CaptHindsightor epson has 1920 x ~120009:11
CaptHindsightI've been making arrays with them for SLA09:11
CaptHindsightwhats the reaction time for  light-directed oligonucleotide synthesis?09:13
kanzurei believe it's minutes per reaction step09:13
CaptHindsightthanks, was scanning through the docs09:13
kanzure<20 minutes per step09:14
kanzurethere's a non-light synthesizer that has lots of public documentation, called uh, pogam?09:14
kanzurehttp://bioinformatics.org/pogo/09:14
kanzuresee "User manual chapter 2: Operation" http://bioinformatics.org/pogo/POSAM_Man_Ch2_User_v1-0_040414.pdf09:14
CaptHindsightI work on this all the time just not for DNA synthesis09:14
kanzure*posam09:15
kanzureposam not pogam09:15
CaptHindsightyeah 1920(H)×1200(V)09:16
CaptHindsight Pixel pitch 8.5(H)×8.5(V)um  without any magnification or reduction09:16
CaptHindsightthis could be a $1000 device09:17
kanzureeasily. yep.09:18
CaptHindsighthttp://www.bioinformatics.org/pogo/09:19
kanzurei just linked you to that :P09:19
CaptHindsightyeah jut looking at it09:20
CaptHindsightwant to see which heads they used09:20
CaptHindsightEpsonTM F057020 print head09:21
kanzureiirc it was something that nobody is making anymore09:21
kanzuremore details may be in the logs. i think we identifed a compatible alternative?09:21
CaptHindsightI work with ~100 different printheads09:22
kanzurebrutal09:22
CaptHindsightthe epsons are easily and cheaply found in printers09:23
CaptHindsightit's just that they are the aqueous version heads09:23
CaptHindsighthttp://global.kyocera.com/prdct/printing-devices/inkjet-printheads/09:25
CaptHindsightif you want lots of small drops rapidly09:26
CaptHindsightwhat routes to market (or end users) have people taken when they have developed new types of medical equipment?09:31
kanzurelots of fda approval stuff :\09:32
kanzurepersonally my recommendation is to go the kit route for now09:32
kanzure.wa number of nucleases per m^3 of exhaled human breath09:34
yoleauxkanzure: Sorry, no result!09:34
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kanzure"who stalks the stalkers?"10:34
cluckjanthropologists10:36
mosasauramazon10:48
cluckjfacebook?10:49
kanzurecluckj: ah but who stalks the anthropologists? an even larger, meatier anthropologist? or do they all just anthropologize each other a few times a week as a sort of time-sharing deal?10:51
cluckjanthropologists are incredibly tedious to study10:52
cluckjI guess it's the last of those10:53
cluckjspeaking of super tedious, I need to go write11:02
cluckjand come up with some nice questions about paperbot, maybe11:02
* cluckj pets paperbot 11:02
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nmz787_ipaper-mache-bot GO!11:06
* nmz787_i 110 pg schemtic to validate manually, whee!11:07
kanzure.title https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/daala/random.shtml11:25
yoleauxnext generation video [interlude]: Daala blog-like post 2015032511:25
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kanzure11:43 <@gwern> Burninate: my reddit account got subpoenaed by ICE; I mentioned this yesterday11:48
kanzure11:45 <@gwern> Burninate: some reddit dramaz over supposed doxing/leaks of the Evolution market admins. I can't afford a lawyer, and it'd be a waste of money since it's an administrative subpoena - they can't be fought11:48
kanzure11:47 < Burninate> Are you exposed in any capacity by your Reddit account?11:48
kanzure11:48 <@gwern> Burninate: oh sure. my IP is all over it11:48
kanzurehttp://pastebin.com/m9RGY9NH11:53
ParahSailindoes everyone get a different partial preview in google books?12:05
kanzureyes i think so12:14
ParahSailinnobody has made a botnet to eat books from there yet?12:14
archelsnickjohnson: don't be silly, that last £300 you'd just put up yourself12:16
archelsor £153 by this point---nothing to worry about by the looks of it12:17
nickjohnsonarchels: Yeah, nothing to worry about, I just want to hit the damn goal already :P12:18
archelsgreedy!12:18
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nmz787_iI want an amino acid sampler pack... like each amino alone, such that I could taste them all... seems like it could be a good science-bar gimmick too... serve 'flights' of amino + vodka or something12:31
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andytoshithat is not necessarily safe ... used to be tryptophan was sold as a dietary supplement but fda stopped it for some reason or another12:39
nmz787_itrippin on trypto12:39
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nmz787_inah, i don't think that'd be a problem, tons of tryptophan in milk12:39
nmz787_ianymore than overdosing on other common foods12:40
andytoshithere is in fact a 20-step process of synthethizing lysergic acid starting with only tryptophan and standard reagents12:40
andytoshithat may have something to do with it12:41
andytoshibut they claimed that tryptophan supplements let to increased cancer risk or something12:41
nmz787_iyeah, they cloned part of the operon that the fungus uses12:41
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nmz787_ihttp://semver.org/12:53
nmz787_i.title12:53
yoleauxSemantic Versioning 2.0.012:53
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fennblack-swift looks like a good quadcopter controller. surprising to see an actual product coming out of moscow13:15
fennandytoshi: tryptophan is perfectly safe. the fda recall was because of a contaminant related to a manufacturing process that is no longer used13:27
andytoshifenn: can i buy tryptophan at supplement stores now then?13:28
fennyes13:28
andytoshithis is good to know13:28
fennsince the 1990s13:28
andytoshilol13:28
andytoshithat's what i get for believing random shit that gets in my eyes while skimming forums13:29
fennalso, you can't make LSD out of tryptophan, but probably some other psychedelic tryptamines13:29
fennby "can't" i mean ridiculously complex and unfeasible synthesis13:29
fenn.wik bromocryptine13:31
yoleaux"Bromocriptine (INN; trade names Parlodel, Cycloset, Brotin (Pakistan)), an ergoline derivative, is a dopamine agonist that is used in the treatment of pituitary tumors, Parkinson's disease (PD), hyperprolactinaemia, neuroleptic malignant syndrome, and type 2 diabetes." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromocryptine13:31
nmz787_i.wik gpr13:32
yoleaux"GPR may refer to:" — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gpr13:32
nmz787_i.wik ground penetrating radar13:33
yoleaux"Ground-penetrating radar (GPR) is a geophysical method that uses radar pulses to image the subsurface. This nondestructive method uses electromagnetic radiation in the microwave band (UHF/VHF frequencies) of the radio spectrum, and detects the reflected signals from subsurface structures." — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_penetrating_radar13:33
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nmz787_ihttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2902246/new-3d-nand-flash-will-triple-capacity-of-ssds-intel-and-micron-say.html14:03
nmz787_iwow14:03
nmz787_i437 GB the size of an M&M14:03
chris_99nice!14:07
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kanzurehttps://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/User:Gmaxwell/visual_fingerprint_comparison14:21
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archelshttp://mic.com/articles/113740/a-team-of-biohackers-has-figured-out-how-to-inject-your-eyeballs-with-night-vision14:43
kanzurei thought i was really on to something with smellvision14:45
justanotheruserlol14:46
justanotheruserI like the picture14:47
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fennan eye dropper would be too pedestrian15:26
mosasaur  it still needs a reflective surface behind the retina15:27
fennchlorin e6 sounds a lot easier than eating a vitamin-A restricted diet for 3 months15:28
gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=8d83cdb7 fenn: chlorin e6 night vision eyedrops >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/senses/15:46
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ParahSailinwhat does amazon mean by "unlimited"15:58
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nmz787_iwow that night vision stuff is pretty cool16:07
fennwhat was the thing that took a sentence and did a google search for the parts of the sentence and then photoshopped it all together automatically into a somewhat realistic image?16:10
fennit was called something like sentence2image?16:11
fennpossibly a siggraph paper16:11
nmz787_ithat sounds like it would be cool16:15
fennbasically the inverse of karpathy's work16:17
kanzurehttp://www.google.com/patents/US2012015737716:20
kanzureis this the "Chlorophyll derivatives as visual pigments for super vision in the red" person16:21
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jackybgoodpaperbot DOI: 10.1111/j.1095-8312.1984.tb00803.x18:11
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kanzurejackybgood: use a full url18:27
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kanzureMRV: hi18:28
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kanzurehmph18:43
kanzurehttps://www.quantamagazine.org/20150325-did-neurons-evolve-twice/18:46
kanzure.to delinquentme nevermind18:57
yoleauxkanzure: I'll pass your message to delinquentme.18:57
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kanzureovertone/supercollider alternatives: http://puredata.info/ https://csound.github.io/ http://chuck.cs.princeton.edu/ https://cycling74.com/products/max/19:36
jackybgoodpaperbot http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1095-8312.1984.tb00803.x/abstract19:40
paperbothttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/paperbot/cb7ed9066d112e87e719abc5666e27b9.txt19:41
jackybgoodWell, worth a shot anyway19:43
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