2015-05-25.log

--- Log opened Mon May 25 00:00:21 2015
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JayDuggerSo as soon as humans have language they have stories?00:24
JayDuggerI suspect an elastic definition of "story."00:24
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archelsone recent definition of intelligence I came across recently is the ability to reveal hidden affordances of the world02:25
archelslike the crow realizing it can use a twig to get at a nut02:26
* archels 's intelligence appears to be at a local minimum presently02:26
sheenaarchels: don't be too hard on yourself :P02:27
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JayDuggerNo where to go but up.02:28
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nshkanzure,  have you used selenium for browser-driving?04:55
nshor does anyone have any idea how to deal with google account registration's annoying birth-month dropdox04:55
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kanzurensh: 1) i have used selenium but i don't recommend it. try phantomjs. 2) use https://github.com/kanzure/googleplay-api07:03
kanzurehttps://telescoper.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/how-loud-was-the-big-bang/07:14
kanzure"I think a better approach would be to consider how an animal would perceive human intelligence. We do incomprehensible or arbitrary things - generate some odd sounds, move stuff about, handle objects - and then big outcomes occur for often no obvious reason - food, images or rooms appear, other humans just do things as if they knew what we were thinking. Sometimes the point becomes somewhat clear far in retrospect, but most of the time ...07:15
kanzure... there is no discernible link. And of course, many of the things that humans worry or enthuse about are things the animals simply do not get - why would a human get sad over a piece of paper with scribbles on? So I would expect superintelligences to be like this. They do stuff, stuff happens, and sometimes we can see that some desire and goal  seems to have been met. If they are human-derived we can sometimes see the similar drives, ...07:15
kanzure... but also totally alien interests and drives. In many ways they would be confusing and boring, except when they decide to play with us."07:15
kanzure"live video rap competitions" http://rapt.fm/07:18
kanzure.title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=959891807:19
yoleauxShow HN: Parse and output TODOs and FIXMEs from comments in your files | Hacker News07:19
chris_99i saw that, but doesn't grep do that?07:19
kanzurelooks like it07:21
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archelskanzure: was there a reason for that juxtaposition of superintelligence and live rap competition? =)07:52
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kanzurenot a good reason, at least07:53
kanzurethe superintelligence thing was a quote from an email from anders sandberg that i was reading07:53
kanzurethe other was something else i was looking at07:53
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maakukanzure: that is such loose and imprecise reasoning it makes me sad :(08:59
yoleaux14 May 2015 00:50Z <kanzure> maaku: what was the name of that nasa software that did resource allocation and scheduling and stuff?08:59
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maakukanzure: Europa was the one I used. http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/tech/asr/planning-and-scheduling/09:00
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kanzuremaaku: which reasoning?09:14
maakuyour sandberg quote09:14
kanzureah09:14
kanzuresick of sidechain programming yet?09:15
kanzuremust be a mad rush over there09:15
maakui flamed out on lesswrong recently regarding that sort of bad thinking09:15
maakuyeah we're in crunch mode, not sick of it yet though09:16
kanzuremaaku: http://i.imgur.com/bYuZwpt.jpg09:17
maakuthanks :)09:17
kanzurebut really he should be asking for a forklift09:18
maakulol09:18
eudoxiabut he's holding the world up on his hands not on his back09:21
kanzurethis europa stuff is pretty nice09:21
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kanzure.title http://www.nature.com/nrm/podcasts/index.html09:44
yoleauxPodcasts : Archive : Nature Reviews Molecular Cell Biology09:44
kanzureoh even better,09:44
kanzurehttp://www.nature.com/nature/podcast/archive.html09:44
kanzureholy shit they even have transcripts THEY EVEN HAVE TRANSCRIPTS09:45
kanzureer.. that was not supposed to be upcased. was supposed to be pasted link.09:46
kanzurehttp://www.nature.com/nature/podcast/v517/n7535/nature-2015-01-22.html09:46
kanzureoh... their science fiction podcasts don't have transcripts? >:(09:47
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kanzure"Research at Haskin’s Laboratories in the 1960s showed that listeners forgot the beginning of a sentence before reaching its end when arbitrary acoustic signals were used in place of speech (Liberman et al., 1967)."10:02
paskyoh awesome! i've finished the thinkingmachines podcast so far10:07
paskyand most of radiolab and stuff10:08
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JayDuggerIIRC, you can get a published collection of Nature's sci-fi shorts.10:10
JayDuggerOr a selection of them at http://www.concatenation.org/futuresindex.html10:12
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kanzure"Language evolution and human development" http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.129.4708&rep=rep1&type=pdf10:50
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kanzurehttp://news.sciencemag.org/people-events/2015/05/open-access-publisher-sacks-31-editors-amid-fierce-row-over-independence21:34
kanzure.title http://www.cell.com/cell-reports/abstract/S2211-1247(15)00473-821:39
kanzure"Single Transcription Factor Conversion of Human Blood Fate to NPCs with CNS and PNS Developmental Capacity"21:39
yoleauxkanzure: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page.21:39
kanzure"Here, we generate induced neural progenitor cells (iNPCs) from neonatal and adult peripheral blood using single-factor OCT4 reprogramming. Unlike fibroblasts that share molecular hallmarks of neural crest, OCT4 reprogramming of blood was facilitated by SMAD+GSK-3 inhibition to overcome restrictions on neural fate conversion. Blood-derived (BD) iNPCs differentiate in vivo and respond to guided differentiation in vitro, producing glia ...21:39
kanzure... (astrocytes and oligodendrocytes) and multiple neuronal subtypes, including dopaminergic (CNS related) and nociceptive neurons (peripheral nervous system [PNS]). Furthermore, nociceptive neurons phenocopy chemotherapy-induced neurotoxicity in a system suitable for high-throughput drug screening. Our findings provide an easily accessible approach for generating human NPCs that harbor extensive developmental potential, enabling the ...21:39
kanzure... study of clinically relevant neural diseases directly from patient cohorts."21:39
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