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JayDugger | So as soon as humans have language they have stories? | 00:24 |
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JayDugger | I suspect an elastic definition of "story." | 00:24 |
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archels | one recent definition of intelligence I came across recently is the ability to reveal hidden affordances of the world | 02:25 |
archels | like the crow realizing it can use a twig to get at a nut | 02:26 |
* archels 's intelligence appears to be at a local minimum presently | 02:26 | |
sheena | archels: don't be too hard on yourself :P | 02:27 |
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JayDugger | No where to go but up. | 02:28 |
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nsh | kanzure, have you used selenium for browser-driving? | 04:55 |
nsh | or does anyone have any idea how to deal with google account registration's annoying birth-month dropdox | 04:55 |
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kanzure | nsh: 1) i have used selenium but i don't recommend it. try phantomjs. 2) use https://github.com/kanzure/googleplay-api | 07:03 |
kanzure | https://telescoper.wordpress.com/2009/04/26/how-loud-was-the-big-bang/ | 07:14 |
kanzure | "I think a better approach would be to consider how an animal would perceive human intelligence. We do incomprehensible or arbitrary things - generate some odd sounds, move stuff about, handle objects - and then big outcomes occur for often no obvious reason - food, images or rooms appear, other humans just do things as if they knew what we were thinking. Sometimes the point becomes somewhat clear far in retrospect, but most of the time ... | 07:15 |
kanzure | ... there is no discernible link. And of course, many of the things that humans worry or enthuse about are things the animals simply do not get - why would a human get sad over a piece of paper with scribbles on? So I would expect superintelligences to be like this. They do stuff, stuff happens, and sometimes we can see that some desire and goal seems to have been met. If they are human-derived we can sometimes see the similar drives, ... | 07:15 |
kanzure | ... but also totally alien interests and drives. In many ways they would be confusing and boring, except when they decide to play with us." | 07:15 |
kanzure | "live video rap competitions" http://rapt.fm/ | 07:18 |
kanzure | .title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9598918 | 07:19 |
yoleaux | Show HN: Parse and output TODOs and FIXMEs from comments in your files | Hacker News | 07:19 |
chris_99 | i saw that, but doesn't grep do that? | 07:19 |
kanzure | looks like it | 07:21 |
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archels | kanzure: was there a reason for that juxtaposition of superintelligence and live rap competition? =) | 07:52 |
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kanzure | not a good reason, at least | 07:53 |
kanzure | the superintelligence thing was a quote from an email from anders sandberg that i was reading | 07:53 |
kanzure | the other was something else i was looking at | 07:53 |
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maaku | kanzure: that is such loose and imprecise reasoning it makes me sad :( | 08:59 |
yoleaux | 14 May 2015 00:50Z <kanzure> maaku: what was the name of that nasa software that did resource allocation and scheduling and stuff? | 08:59 |
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maaku | kanzure: Europa was the one I used. http://ti.arc.nasa.gov/tech/asr/planning-and-scheduling/ | 09:00 |
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kanzure | maaku: which reasoning? | 09:14 |
maaku | your sandberg quote | 09:14 |
kanzure | ah | 09:14 |
kanzure | sick of sidechain programming yet? | 09:15 |
kanzure | must be a mad rush over there | 09:15 |
maaku | i flamed out on lesswrong recently regarding that sort of bad thinking | 09:15 |
maaku | yeah we're in crunch mode, not sick of it yet though | 09:16 |
kanzure | maaku: http://i.imgur.com/bYuZwpt.jpg | 09:17 |
maaku | thanks :) | 09:17 |
kanzure | but really he should be asking for a forklift | 09:18 |
maaku | lol | 09:18 |
eudoxia | but he's holding the world up on his hands not on his back | 09:21 |
kanzure | this europa stuff is pretty nice | 09:21 |
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kanzure | .title http://www.nature.com/nrm/podcasts/index.html | 09:44 |
yoleaux | Podcasts : Archive : Nature Reviews Molecular Cell Biology | 09:44 |
kanzure | oh even better, | 09:44 |
kanzure | http://www.nature.com/nature/podcast/archive.html | 09:44 |
kanzure | holy shit they even have transcripts THEY EVEN HAVE TRANSCRIPTS | 09:45 |
kanzure | er.. that was not supposed to be upcased. was supposed to be pasted link. | 09:46 |
kanzure | http://www.nature.com/nature/podcast/v517/n7535/nature-2015-01-22.html | 09:46 |
kanzure | oh... their science fiction podcasts don't have transcripts? >:( | 09:47 |
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kanzure | "Research at Haskin’s Laboratories in the 1960s showed that listeners forgot the beginning of a sentence before reaching its end when arbitrary acoustic signals were used in place of speech (Liberman et al., 1967)." | 10:02 |
pasky | oh awesome! i've finished the thinkingmachines podcast so far | 10:07 |
pasky | and most of radiolab and stuff | 10:08 |
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JayDugger | IIRC, you can get a published collection of Nature's sci-fi shorts. | 10:10 |
JayDugger | Or a selection of them at http://www.concatenation.org/futuresindex.html | 10:12 |
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kanzure | "Language evolution and human development" http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.129.4708&rep=rep1&type=pdf | 10:50 |
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kanzure | http://news.sciencemag.org/people-events/2015/05/open-access-publisher-sacks-31-editors-amid-fierce-row-over-independence | 21:34 |
kanzure | .title http://www.cell.com/cell-reports/abstract/S2211-1247(15)00473-8 | 21:39 |
kanzure | "Single Transcription Factor Conversion of Human Blood Fate to NPCs with CNS and PNS Developmental Capacity" | 21:39 |
yoleaux | kanzure: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page. | 21:39 |
kanzure | "Here, we generate induced neural progenitor cells (iNPCs) from neonatal and adult peripheral blood using single-factor OCT4 reprogramming. Unlike fibroblasts that share molecular hallmarks of neural crest, OCT4 reprogramming of blood was facilitated by SMAD+GSK-3 inhibition to overcome restrictions on neural fate conversion. Blood-derived (BD) iNPCs differentiate in vivo and respond to guided differentiation in vitro, producing glia ... | 21:39 |
kanzure | ... (astrocytes and oligodendrocytes) and multiple neuronal subtypes, including dopaminergic (CNS related) and nociceptive neurons (peripheral nervous system [PNS]). Furthermore, nociceptive neurons phenocopy chemotherapy-induced neurotoxicity in a system suitable for high-throughput drug screening. Our findings provide an easily accessible approach for generating human NPCs that harbor extensive developmental potential, enabling the ... | 21:39 |
kanzure | ... study of clinically relevant neural diseases directly from patient cohorts." | 21:39 |
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