2015-06-02.log

--- Log opened Tue Jun 02 00:00:29 2015
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kanzurehttps://github.com/Blockstream/borromean_paper/raw/master/borromean_draft_0.01_58a5cbc.pdf00:06
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kanzure.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZp7UGgBR0I00:10
yoleauxWhy the blocksize limit keeps Bitcoin free and decentralized - YouTube00:10
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kanzure(from 2013)00:18
nmz787_i1jrayhawk: steamroom then oven to dry or what?00:20
kanzurefenn: those pagemaker and pdf files probably belong on the internet archive somewhere00:23
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kanzurehttp://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg08034.html01:08
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jrayhawkDunno if ovening helps; I just sortof assume steaming will vastly reduce the lifespan of most of the components and transfer everything off as soon as possible.02:33
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archelsjrayhawk: surely that doesn't actually work—physically transferring the platters from one drive to another?04:04
archelsis this apocryphal or have you actually done this?04:05
archels"Cyberpunk Books-by-Phone"04:11
archelshaha this is such a trove04:11
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archels"Intelligence is like pornography: We can’t define it, but we know it when we see it."04:41
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kanzurebeep06:57
JayDuggerboop.06:57
kanzureah..06:58
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kanzure08:17 < gavinandresen> mmm, I suppose we should stop working on this bitcoin thing and all help out with immortality research, more important problem to solve first.....08:20
@fennhey i actually agree with him for once08:22
kanzureisn't it great that all the bitcoiners are almost completely transhumanist? :-)08:23
@fennoh i figured it was a sarcastic reply to something08:23
kanzurehe was being somewhat sarcastic, but i don't think he's actually a deathist08:23
kanzuremaaku: btw i find myself sending your adjustment algorithm email around a bunch, https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg07599.html08:24
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eudoxiakanzure: we need a poll like, when did you first hear of merkle? 1) bitcoin 2) MNT 3) cryo08:34
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@fennMNT08:42
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kanzuredamn i really don't know08:53
kanzurejrayhawk would probably answer "river raid, bitches"08:54
eudoxiakanzure: maybe KSRM was first?08:54
kanzurenah, ksrm was 2007-2008 for me08:56
kanzurefor context, i stumbled into eliezer yudkowsky in like 2005 or earlier ("a technical explanation of technical explanation")08:56
kanzurewell at any rate, it definitely wasn't cryptography08:57
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maakuMNT09:06
maakukanzure: thanks. gmaxwell's indipherable reply later in the thread significantly improves it09:07
maaku(don't count bits-in-block, count resources consumed: utxo bytes, sigops, etc., but otherwise the same dynamic mechanism)09:07
kanzurenanotech sounds right to me. i didn't look into cryonics until later.09:10
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kanzuresome weirdo marijuana compliance software https://weedtraqr.com/09:32
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archels Components of brain-computer interfaces (BCI) could be re-arranged to create brain-brain interfaces, or tightly interconnected links between a person's brain and ectopic neural modules (Serruya and Kahana, 2008). Such modules—whether sitting in a bubbling Petri dish, rendered in reciprocally linked integrated circuits, or implanted in our belly—would mark the first step on to a path of breaking out of the limitations imposed by our ...10:52
archels... phylogenetic past (O'Doherty et al., 2011; Deadwyler et al., 2013; Vidu et al., 2014).10:52
archelshttp://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnsys.2015.00053/full?10:52
kanzure.title10:56
yoleauxFrontiers | As we may think and be: brain-computer interfaces to expand the substrate of mind | Frontiers in Systems Neuroscience10:56
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jrayhawkarchels: http://www.google.com/search?q=platter+swap+data+recovery it's a common procedure12:17
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jrayhawkthese days i expect a lot more state to be stored on controllers, though, so i imagine it will get less reliable12:18
kanzureso you know.... a few years ago on the diybio mailing list, reason@fightaging.org was claiming that he was non-technical or something12:19
kanzureand that he thought that his value was coordination more than it would be technical contribution because he considered himself non-technical12:19
heathaugur: i disagree, well know our ai overlords will utilize these languages :)12:19
heathwe all*12:19
kanzurebut then why has he since moved to austin, texas to work as a web developer12:19
kanzurethings are not adding up12:20
kanzure.title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=964632712:22
yoleauxThe Unpredictable Era of Editing Human Embryos | Hacker News12:22
kanzure"There has never been a lymphatic system for the central nervous system, and it was very clear from that first singular observation – and they’ve done many studies since then to bolster the finding – that it will fundamentally change the way people look at the central nervous system’s relationship with the immune system.”"12:24
kanzure"The discovery was made possible by the work of Antoine Louveau, PhD, a postdoctoral fellow in Kipnis’ lab. The vessels were detected after Louveau developed a method to mount a mouse’s meninges – the membranes covering the brain – on a single slide so that they could be examined as a whole. “It was fairly easy, actually,” he said. “There was one trick: We fixed the meninges within the skullcap, so that the tissue is ...12:25
kanzure... secured in its physiological condition, and then we dissected it. If we had done it the other way around, it wouldn’t have worked.”"12:25
kanzure"As to how the brain’s lymphatic vessels managed to escape notice all this time, Kipnis described them as “very well hidden” and noted that they follow a major blood vessel down into the sinuses, an area difficult to image. “It’s so close to the blood vessel, you just miss it,” he said. “If you don’t know what you’re after, you just miss it.”"12:25
kanzure.title http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature14432.html12:25
yoleauxStructural and functional features of central nervous system lymphatic vessels : Nature : Nature Publishing Group12:25
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kanzurediagram: http://i1.wp.com/neurosciencenews.com/files/2015/06/new-lymphatic-system-map.jpg?resize=750%2C41212:27
kanzurei wonder if this is a useful vector12:27
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archelsjrayhawk: that's incredible, I never thought that possible with modern tolerances, alignment, etc.12:34
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FourFirekanzure, I don't consider myself technical @ this reason@fightaging.org13:20
FourFirehowever I consider that in the future my greatest value will be in technical gruntwork towards realizing/falsifying my ideas13:21
FourFirekanzure, where does the "banned by the FDA (5 times)" come from?13:22
FourFirehas the diybio wiki site been denounced or something else?13:22
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delinquentmeFourFire,  you're reason from fighting aging?13:24
kanzureFourFire: here's a list of reasons why the fda has banned hplusroadmap and hplusroadmap activities http://diyhpl.us/wiki/fda/13:27
FourFiredelinquentme, nope, lol13:28
FourFireI'm fourfire13:28
FourFirekanzure, what's wrong with wheelchairs?13:35
kanzureit's against federal law to manufacture wheelchairs without a license13:37
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FourFirethat sounds exactly like a stupid thing which would arise from predatory capitalists making subpar products and selling them to needful demographic with resulting problems and political backlash forcing regulation13:54
FourFireargh, our siciety is desperately in need of AI, just so we can case by case all of our stupid law stuff13:55
@fennFourFire: you may find this enlightening http://www.washingtonpost.com/sf/national/2014/08/16/a-medicare-scam-that-just-kept-rolling/13:56
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QuadIngiThat's a lot of wasted money13:59
@fennalso many sad stories from users of the iBot wheelchair after it being discontinued with no replacement13:59
QuadIngigtg13:59
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kanzurehttp://www.computerworld.com/article/2929471/emerging-technology/fab-plants-are-now-making-superfast-carbon-nanotube-memory.html14:32
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@fenn"NRAM" is a stupid acronym14:42
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kanzuremost acronyms are stupid15:03
@fennMARS15:06
heathIDISAGREE15:07
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kanzureweird, giulio prisco is writing for bitcoinmagazine.com now15:31
kanzurei guess the church of cosmic cosmicness never worked out for him15:32
kanzurefear me for i have returned from closing 230 tabs15:51
nmz787_i^ LOTSOFTABS15:53
nmz787_iI think around 50 or 75 is probably my historical max, but I have not been keeping track15:54
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kanzure.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPMHcanq0xM18:01
yoleauxJust another day in the office at Magic Leap - YouTube18:01
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kanzurei watched some augmented reality videos, and i am not impressed at all19:02
kanzuremachine vision sounds nice in theory but in practice i'd have to do all the coding anyway19:02
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abetuskAnyone going to the OHS 2015?22:59
nealswhere's it at this year?23:00
abetuskPhiladelphia23:01
nealsI'm gonna try to go23:02
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