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archels | "The n-dimensional space spanned by all the n generalised coordinates of any dynamial system is called the configuration space of that dynamical system. The phase space is, on the other hand, spanned by all the n generalised coordinates and the corresponding n generalised moments forming a 2n-dimensional space. The state space is a 2n+1 dimensional space where one more dimension is added to the phase space to include the parameter time." | 02:24 |
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archels | (via that dynamics vs. kinematics paper posted earlier) | 02:24 |
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Urchin | that's a pretty clear explanation | 03:20 |
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kanzure | beep | 05:11 |
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kanzure | "Procedural modeling of buildings using grammars" https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/aliaga/cs535-12/lectures/grammars/proc-mod-bldgs.pdf | 05:46 |
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eudoxia | kanzure: how did it go | 06:42 |
yoleaux | 8 Jun 2015 19:54Z <kanzure> eudoxia: success on the rpc toy thing | 06:42 |
eudoxia | cool | 06:42 |
eudoxia | .botsnack | 06:42 |
yoleaux | :D | 06:42 |
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kanzure | more about arguments against wikipedia decentralization http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38beya/gregory_maxwell_quote_presented_without_comment/crtv55u | 07:48 |
kanzure | i happen to think this is a lame reason to not convert wikipedia to a giant git repository though | 07:49 |
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kanzure | "TARGET2, the real time gross settlement system for the European Union handles around 90 million transactions a year. The highest daily volume in 2014 was just under 600,000 transactions a day. This system handled a total turnover of €492 trillion. 20MB is absolutely fine for a global settlement system." | 08:03 |
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andytoshi | paperbot: are you alive? | 09:30 |
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kanzure | paperbot is presently dead | 09:44 |
nmz787_i1 | has he become paperzombie? | 09:52 |
eudoxia | gradstudentbot's dead too, shame, i liked that guy | 09:53 |
eudoxia | kanzure: did gradstudentbot graduate or drop out? | 09:53 |
nmz787_i1 | vegans have their zombie jokes 'what do they eat.... grainnnnnsssss...' | 09:53 |
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nmz787_i1 | but what does paperzombie eat? | 09:53 |
nmz787_i1 | (that sounds like brains) | 09:53 |
eudoxia | nmz787: uncited papers | 09:53 |
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nmz787_i1 | thought-trains? | 09:54 |
kanzure | nah i think i simply misplaced gradstudentbot | 09:55 |
kanzure | and paperbot has some bugs that need to be fixed before it can be used again | 09:56 |
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kanzure | "There was this wonderful technology invented a few years ago to deal with spam. It's called Hashcash. All these hacky heuristics like block size are just dancing around the problem, and the natural solution is already present in bitcoin: smaller blocks, (down to the point of individual transactions) each mined. Don't relay things that haven't been mined. As spam or transaction levels go up, mining targets for submission go up too. Of ... | 10:49 |
kanzure | ... course this is a pretty serious redesign of bitcoin, and I'm not offering a concrete proposal at this time (but have one in the works, and I'd like to see others). I call the parameters of these hacky heuristics "Consensus Threatening Quantities" (CTQs) because changing them induces a hard fork. Bitcoin is full of them (block time, block size, target difficulty, retarget time, etc) and bitcoin would do well to face difficult redesign ... | 10:49 |
kanzure | ... questions head on, and remove them entirely. (Proposal to appear...)" | 10:49 |
pasky | it's funny, two years ago this guy would just go away and introduce his own cryptocoin with cheesy name and precisely these changes; now the discussion shifted from thousands forks of bitcoin to how to modify bitcoin itself | 10:58 |
kanzure | did you see http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-sidechains-elements/ | 10:59 |
pasky | will read up, thanks | 11:03 |
pasky | (how do you create these transcripts? manually?) | 11:04 |
kanzure | i type really, really fast dude | 11:05 |
pasky | nice :) i guess i could do it too but i wouldn't have enough spare capacity to really take in the talk | 11:06 |
maaku | kanzure is a typing machine. it's unbelievable | 11:06 |
kanzure | here are my technical specifications https://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5463156/il_570xN.174273093.jpg | 11:08 |
* archels pictures typewriter scene from Naked Lunch | 11:09 | |
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* maaku tries not to picture Naked Lunch, whatever that is | 11:28 | |
nmz787_i1 | mmm, lunch | 11:31 |
chris_99 | a book by William S. Burroughs maaku | 11:32 |
nmz787_i1 | we need a custom version of this where the typewriters are replaced with pipettes or something http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mr-burns-monkeys-typewriters1.jpg | 11:50 |
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chris_99 | heh | 11:52 |
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chris_99 | http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/june/computer-water-drops-060815.html | 12:56 |
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chris_99 | Anyone got any ideas for experiments that might be interesting to perform in near space per chance? I'm planning on launching a high altitude balloon at some point | 13:38 |
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kanzure | grow lots of mold and flip open some petri dishes at high altitude, see what survives | 13:41 |
kanzure | then do it again a few hundred times with the results from the prior attmepts | 13:41 |
kanzure | soon we will have spores colonizing the entire solar system | 13:41 |
chris_99 | heh | 13:42 |
kanzure | are you going to be recovering the balloon? | 13:42 |
chris_99 | yup | 13:43 |
chris_99 | going to be using a radio transmitter on 458MHz, to track it, as well as probably having GSM for when it gets low down | 13:43 |
nmz787_i | "We postulate that the robustness of synchronous logic ensures the large-scale integration of the presented Boolean logic circuits. Using scaling arguments we showed that our droplet circuits can be scaled down to the sub-nanolitre regime (d ∼1–10 µm)" | 13:45 |
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archels | .title http://www.nature.com/news/injectable-brain-implant-spies-on-individual-neurons-1.17713 | 13:50 |
yoleaux | Injectable brain implant spies on individual neurons : Nature News & Comment | 13:50 |
kanzure | ".. implanted mouse brains with a rolled-up, silky mesh studded with tiny electronic devices, and shown that it unfurls to spy on and stimulate individual neurons" | 13:53 |
fenn | chris_99: polymer degradation measurements, for example high specific strength tether materials like nanocrystalline cellulose or UHMWPE with various protective coatings | 13:53 |
kanzure | "The team’s answer was to tightly roll up a 2D mesh a few centimetres wide and then use a needle just 100 micrometres in diameter to inject it directly into a target region through a hole in the top of the skull. The mesh unrolls to fill any small cavities and mingles with the tissue (see ‘Bugging the brain’). Nanowires that poke out can be connected to a computer to take recordings and stimulate cells." | 13:54 |
fenn | they are vulnerable to repeated temperature cycling, UV, and oxygen erosion | 13:54 |
kanzure | "So far, the researchers have implanted meshes consisting of 16 electrical elements into two brain regions of anaesthetized mice, where they were able to both monitor and stimulate individual neurons." | 13:54 |
kanzure | "The next steps will be to implant larger meshes containing hundreds of devices, with different kinds of sensors, and to record activity in mice that are awake, either by fixing their heads in place, or by developing wireless technologies that would record from neurons as the animals moved freely. The team would also like to inject the device into the brains of newborn mice, where it would unfold further as the brain grew, and to add ... | 13:54 |
kanzure | ... hairpin-shaped nanowire probes to the mesh to record electrical activity inside and outside cells." | 13:54 |
kanzure | .title http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2015.115.html | 13:54 |
yoleaux | Syringe-injectable electronics : Nature Nanotechnology : Nature Publishing Group | 13:54 |
chris_99 | interesting fenn, it'd certainly get a large diff. in temps | 13:55 |
maaku | a shower-thought that has been bugging me for a while .. has anyone looked at doing the equivalent of 'make check' unittest runner for physical designs? | 13:55 |
maaku | *unittest framework | 13:55 |
maaku | i'm not sure what that would look like -- simulators? skdb builds? | 13:56 |
maaku | but has anyone explored this area? | 13:56 |
kanzure | ugh https://content-assets.readcube.com/assets/nature_epdf-ed44b2cd696c0352ab65721787558b72.js | 13:56 |
nmz787_i | .title http://www.nature.com/news/the-rise-of-africa-s-super-vegetables-1.17712 | 13:59 |
yoleaux | The rise of Africa’s super vegetables : Nature News & Comment | 13:59 |
nmz787_i | jrayhawk: ^ | 13:59 |
nmz787_i | the spider plant is a C4 photosynthesizer, which I think you like better than C3s | 13:59 |
nmz787_i | huh: "Figure 2: Imaging of the mesh electronics structure in needle constrictions" | 14:01 |
jrayhawk | neat | 14:02 |
nmz787_i | http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/extref/nnano.2015.115-s1.pdf | 14:03 |
nmz787_i | the supplement to kanzure's last linkpaste | 14:03 |
nmz787_i | they used the same pipette puller that I can use | 14:05 |
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nmz787_i | huh, amazing, they actually list a price for this puller http://www.sutter.com/MICROPIPETTE/p-97.html | 14:05 |
nmz787_i | this is pretty cool | 14:11 |
nmz787_i | .title http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/march/dancing-droplets-prakash-031115.html | 14:11 |
yoleaux | Stanford researchers solve the mystery of the dancing droplets | 14:11 |
nmz787_i | specifically the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMsaH6SY4CY | 14:11 |
nmz787_i | .title | 14:11 |
yoleaux | Stanford researchers solve the mystery of the dancing droplets - YouTube | 14:11 |
nmz787_i | "In a third experiment they used Sharpie pens to draw black lines on glass slides. The lines changed the surface of the slide and created a series of catch basins. The researchers filled each basin with fluids of different concentrations to create a self-sorting mechanism. Droplets bounced from reservoir to reservoir until they sensed the fluid that matched their concentration and merged with that pool." | 14:15 |
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kanzure | "The Planetary Society’s LightSail test mission successfully completed its primary objective of deploying a solar sail in low-Earth orbit, mission managers said today. During a ground station pass over Cal Poly San Luis Obispo that began at 1:26 p.m. EDT (17:26 UTC), the final pieces of an image showcasing LightSail’s deployed solar sails were received on Earth. The image confirms the sails have unfurled, which was the final ... | 14:19 |
kanzure | ... milestone of a shakedown mission designed to pave the way for a full-fledged solar sail flight in 2016." | 14:19 |
kanzure | http://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/images/spacecraft/2015/20150609_ls-a-sails-out_f840.jpg | 14:19 |
kanzure | http://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150609-lightsail-test-mission-success.html | 14:20 |
fenn | maaku: isn't that just engineering simulations in general? except automating the step where you decide if it passed the test. also there is something called "design rule check" in electronics cad software which makes sure your PCB traces are the right spacing and nothing overlaps etc | 14:21 |
kanzure | there are also various fluid dynamic simulation check stuff, but i figured it wasn't worth mentioning | 14:22 |
kanzure | and also design-for-manufacturability checks like overhangs in 3d printing | 14:23 |
nmz787_i | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyANa71gvU | 14:24 |
yoleaux | the-full-mcbain-movie-hidden-throughout-simpsons-epsiodes.flv - YouTube | 14:24 |
nmz787_i | fenn: well technically you have to tell the PCB software to check the trace-to-trace spacings, etc... overlaps are usually handled automatically | 14:24 |
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maaku | fenn: right, i'm wondering if people have put that together into a coherent framework | 15:07 |
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kanzure | http://sidechain.fairlystable.org/ | 17:00 |
fenn | why is every transaction multisig? | 17:02 |
kanzure | those are the coinbase transactions | 17:03 |
kanzure | https://github.com/ElementsProject/elements/blob/7848ae0eed5506fb32872b6d74a12fd781aa3024/contrib/fedpeg/rotating_consensus.py | 17:03 |
fenn | there are 3000 of them? | 17:04 |
kanzure | er, i think there are 3000 blocks | 17:05 |
kanzure | 3280ish | 17:05 |
fenn | feature request: show a list of hash opcodes used in the transaction on the main block page, so it's easier to find interesting things | 17:08 |
kanzure | what about instead something like "list the number of transactions per block" | 17:09 |
fenn | er, on the front page that lists all the block hashes | 17:09 |
fenn | that too | 17:09 |
fenn | oh these are each blocks? | 17:09 |
fenn | ok i was confused because there was only one transaction per block | 17:10 |
kanzure | blockheight, blockhash | 17:10 |
kanzure | there's only one transaction per block because nobody is sending transactions | 17:10 |
fenn | how are there so many blocks already? | 17:11 |
fenn | oh it's been running since february 15 | 17:12 |
fenn | er, february 2 | 17:12 |
kanzure | the block time is 60 seconds | 17:13 |
kanzure | according to #sidechains-dev as of a few moments ago | 17:13 |
maaku | ugh still getting "VerifySignature failed: Withdraw proof validation failed - output does not match expected" | 17:13 |
maaku | we were on turbo mode all night with 20-second blocks | 17:13 |
maaku | not sure what the feb 2 timestamp is. that's probably just when the genesis block was made. the chain was fresh yesterday | 17:14 |
maaku | wait wrong channel. sorry | 17:15 |
kanzure | hilarious | 17:15 |
kanzure | you guys may have faked the timestamp to make it look more respectable :-) | 17:22 |
kanzure | fenn: here's a block with more than one transaction http://sidechain.fairlystable.org/block/5b8d2ac83fc23929466fe8fb6f0b40fd7bd7710c6d8eb2d00b9d4e33032813c7 | 17:26 |
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Adlai | eh, not like there's decentralization theater for sale | 17:31 |
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Adlai | (any such is probably from misrepresentations of what sidechains allow) | 17:32 |
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kanzure | win 11 | 17:57 |
kanzure | rjeoiqrjoiqjrqreq | 17:57 |
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kanzure | hmph | 21:19 |
Drethelin | hmph? | 21:22 |
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kanzure | greetings bryanh | 21:50 |
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