2015-06-09.log

--- Log opened Tue Jun 09 00:00:36 2015
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archels"The n-dimensional space spanned by all the n generalised coordinates of any dynamial system is called the configuration space of that dynamical system. The phase space is, on the other hand, spanned by all the n generalised coordinates and the corresponding n generalised moments forming a 2n-dimensional space. The state space is a 2n+1 dimensional space where one more dimension is added to the phase space to include the parameter time."02:24
archels(via that dynamics vs. kinematics paper posted earlier)02:24
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Urchinthat's a pretty clear explanation03:20
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kanzurebeep05:11
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kanzure"Procedural modeling of buildings using grammars" https://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/aliaga/cs535-12/lectures/grammars/proc-mod-bldgs.pdf05:46
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eudoxiakanzure: how did it go06:42
yoleaux8 Jun 2015 19:54Z <kanzure> eudoxia: success on the rpc toy thing06:42
eudoxiacool06:42
eudoxia.botsnack06:42
yoleaux:D06:42
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kanzuremore about arguments against wikipedia decentralization http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38beya/gregory_maxwell_quote_presented_without_comment/crtv55u07:48
kanzurei happen to think this is a lame reason to not convert wikipedia to a giant git repository though07:49
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kanzure"TARGET2, the real time gross settlement system for the European Union handles around 90 million transactions a year. The highest daily volume in 2014 was just under 600,000 transactions a day. This system handled a total turnover of €492 trillion. 20MB is absolutely fine for a global settlement system."08:03
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andytoshipaperbot: are you alive?09:30
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kanzurepaperbot is presently dead09:44
nmz787_i1has he become paperzombie?09:52
eudoxiagradstudentbot's dead too, shame, i liked that guy09:53
eudoxiakanzure: did gradstudentbot graduate or drop out?09:53
nmz787_i1vegans have their zombie jokes 'what do they eat.... grainnnnnsssss...'09:53
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nmz787_i1but what does paperzombie eat?09:53
nmz787_i1(that sounds like brains)09:53
eudoxianmz787: uncited papers09:53
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nmz787_i1thought-trains?09:54
kanzurenah i think i simply misplaced gradstudentbot09:55
kanzureand paperbot has some bugs that need to be fixed before it can be used again09:56
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kanzure"There was this wonderful technology invented a few years ago to deal with spam. It's called Hashcash. All these hacky heuristics like block size are just dancing around the problem, and the natural solution is already present in bitcoin: smaller blocks, (down to the point of individual transactions) each mined. Don't relay things that haven't been mined. As spam or transaction levels go up, mining targets for submission go up too. Of ...10:49
kanzure... course this is a pretty serious redesign of bitcoin, and I'm not offering a concrete proposal at this time (but have one in the works, and I'd like to see others). I call the parameters of these hacky heuristics "Consensus Threatening Quantities" (CTQs) because changing them induces a hard fork. Bitcoin is full of them (block time, block size, target difficulty, retarget time, etc) and bitcoin would do well to face difficult redesign ...10:49
kanzure... questions head on, and remove them entirely. (Proposal to appear...)"10:49
paskyit's funny, two years ago this guy would just go away and introduce his own cryptocoin with cheesy name and precisely these changes; now the discussion shifted from thousands forks of bitcoin to how to modify bitcoin itself10:58
kanzuredid you see http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/gmaxwell-sidechains-elements/10:59
paskywill read up, thanks11:03
pasky(how do you create these transcripts? manually?)11:04
kanzurei type really, really fast dude11:05
paskynice :) i guess i could do it too but i wouldn't have enough spare capacity to really take in the talk11:06
maakukanzure is a typing machine. it's unbelievable11:06
kanzurehere are my technical specifications https://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5463156/il_570xN.174273093.jpg11:08
* archels pictures typewriter scene from Naked Lunch11:09
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* maaku tries not to picture Naked Lunch, whatever that is11:28
nmz787_i1mmm, lunch11:31
chris_99a book by William S. Burroughs maaku11:32
nmz787_i1we need a custom version of this where the typewriters are replaced with pipettes or something http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/mr-burns-monkeys-typewriters1.jpg11:50
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chris_99heh11:52
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chris_99http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/june/computer-water-drops-060815.html12:56
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chris_99Anyone got any ideas for experiments that might be interesting to perform in near space per chance? I'm planning on launching a high altitude balloon at some point13:38
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kanzuregrow lots of mold and flip open some petri dishes at high altitude, see what survives13:41
kanzurethen do it again a few hundred times with the results from the prior attmepts13:41
kanzuresoon we will have spores colonizing the entire solar system13:41
chris_99heh13:42
kanzureare you going to be recovering the balloon?13:42
chris_99yup13:43
chris_99going to be using a radio transmitter on 458MHz, to track it, as well as probably having GSM for when it gets low down13:43
nmz787_i"We postulate that the robustness of synchronous logic ensures the large-scale integration of the presented Boolean logic circuits. Using scaling arguments we showed that our droplet circuits can be scaled down to the sub-nanolitre regime (d ∼1–10 µm)"13:45
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archels.title http://www.nature.com/news/injectable-brain-implant-spies-on-individual-neurons-1.1771313:50
yoleauxInjectable brain implant spies on individual neurons : Nature News & Comment13:50
kanzure".. implanted mouse brains with a rolled-up, silky mesh studded with tiny electronic devices, and shown that it unfurls to spy on and stimulate individual neurons"13:53
fennchris_99: polymer degradation measurements, for example high specific strength tether materials like nanocrystalline cellulose or UHMWPE with various protective coatings13:53
kanzure"The team’s answer was to tightly roll up a 2D mesh a few centimetres wide and then use a needle just 100 micrometres in diameter to inject it directly into a target region through a hole in the top of the skull. The mesh unrolls to fill any small cavities and mingles with the tissue (see ‘Bugging the brain’). Nanowires that poke out can be connected to a computer to take recordings and stimulate cells."13:54
fennthey are vulnerable to repeated temperature cycling, UV, and oxygen erosion13:54
kanzure"So far, the researchers have implanted meshes consisting of 16 electrical elements into two brain regions of anaesthetized mice, where they were able to both monitor and stimulate individual neurons."13:54
kanzure"The next steps will be to implant larger meshes containing hundreds of devices, with different kinds of sensors, and to record activity in mice that are awake, either by fixing their heads in place, or by developing wireless technologies that would record from neurons as the animals moved freely. The team would also like to inject the device into the brains of newborn mice, where it would unfold further as the brain grew, and to add ...13:54
kanzure... hairpin-shaped nanowire probes to the mesh to record electrical activity inside and outside cells."13:54
kanzure.title http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2015.115.html13:54
yoleauxSyringe-injectable electronics : Nature Nanotechnology : Nature Publishing Group13:54
chris_99interesting fenn, it'd certainly get a large diff. in temps13:55
maakua shower-thought that has been bugging me for a while .. has anyone looked at doing the equivalent of 'make check' unittest runner for physical designs?13:55
maaku*unittest framework13:55
maakui'm not sure what that would look like -- simulators? skdb builds?13:56
maakubut has anyone explored this area?13:56
kanzureugh https://content-assets.readcube.com/assets/nature_epdf-ed44b2cd696c0352ab65721787558b72.js13:56
nmz787_i.title http://www.nature.com/news/the-rise-of-africa-s-super-vegetables-1.1771213:59
yoleauxThe rise of Africa’s super vegetables : Nature News & Comment13:59
nmz787_ijrayhawk: ^13:59
nmz787_ithe spider plant is a C4 photosynthesizer, which I think you like better than C3s13:59
nmz787_ihuh: "Figure 2: Imaging of the mesh electronics structure in needle constrictions"14:01
jrayhawkneat14:02
nmz787_ihttp://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/extref/nnano.2015.115-s1.pdf14:03
nmz787_ithe supplement to kanzure's last linkpaste14:03
nmz787_ithey used the same pipette puller that I can use14:05
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nmz787_ihuh, amazing, they actually list a price for this puller http://www.sutter.com/MICROPIPETTE/p-97.html14:05
nmz787_ithis is pretty cool14:11
nmz787_i.title http://news.stanford.edu/news/2015/march/dancing-droplets-prakash-031115.html14:11
yoleauxStanford researchers solve the mystery of the dancing droplets14:11
nmz787_ispecifically the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMsaH6SY4CY14:11
nmz787_i.title14:11
yoleauxStanford researchers solve the mystery of the dancing droplets - YouTube14:11
nmz787_i"In a third experiment they used Sharpie pens to draw black lines on glass slides. The lines changed the surface of the slide and created a series of catch basins. The researchers filled each basin with fluids of different concentrations to create a self-sorting mechanism. Droplets bounced from reservoir to reservoir until they sensed the fluid that matched their concentration and merged with that pool."14:15
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kanzure"The Planetary Society’s LightSail test mission successfully completed its primary objective of deploying a solar sail in low-Earth orbit, mission managers said today. During a ground station pass over Cal Poly San Luis Obispo that began at 1:26 p.m. EDT (17:26 UTC), the final pieces of an image showcasing LightSail’s deployed solar sails were received on Earth. The image confirms the sails have unfurled, which was the final ...14:19
kanzure... milestone of a shakedown mission designed to pave the way for a full-fledged solar sail flight in 2016."14:19
kanzurehttp://planetary.s3.amazonaws.com/assets/images/spacecraft/2015/20150609_ls-a-sails-out_f840.jpg14:19
kanzurehttp://www.planetary.org/blogs/jason-davis/2015/20150609-lightsail-test-mission-success.html14:20
fennmaaku: isn't that just engineering simulations in general? except automating the step where you decide if it passed the test. also there is something called "design rule check" in electronics cad software which makes sure your PCB traces are the right spacing and nothing overlaps etc14:21
kanzurethere are also various fluid dynamic simulation check stuff, but i figured it wasn't worth mentioning14:22
kanzureand also design-for-manufacturability checks like overhangs in 3d printing14:23
nmz787_i.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vyANa71gvU14:24
yoleauxthe-full-mcbain-movie-hidden-throughout-simpsons-epsiodes.flv - YouTube14:24
nmz787_ifenn: well technically you have to tell the PCB software to check the trace-to-trace spacings, etc... overlaps are usually handled automatically14:24
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maakufenn: right, i'm wondering if people have put that together into a coherent framework15:07
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kanzurehttp://sidechain.fairlystable.org/17:00
fennwhy is every transaction multisig?17:02
kanzurethose are the coinbase transactions17:03
kanzurehttps://github.com/ElementsProject/elements/blob/7848ae0eed5506fb32872b6d74a12fd781aa3024/contrib/fedpeg/rotating_consensus.py17:03
fennthere are 3000 of them?17:04
kanzureer, i think there are 3000 blocks17:05
kanzure3280ish17:05
fennfeature request: show a list of hash opcodes used in the transaction on the main block page, so it's easier to find interesting things17:08
kanzurewhat about instead something like "list the number of transactions per block"17:09
fenner, on the front page that lists all the block hashes17:09
fennthat too17:09
fennoh these are each blocks?17:09
fennok i was confused because there was only one transaction per block17:10
kanzureblockheight, blockhash17:10
kanzurethere's only one transaction per block because nobody is sending transactions17:10
fennhow are there so many blocks already?17:11
fennoh it's been running since february 1517:12
fenner, february 217:12
kanzurethe block time is 60 seconds17:13
kanzureaccording to #sidechains-dev as of a few moments ago17:13
maakuugh still getting "VerifySignature failed: Withdraw proof validation failed - output does not match expected"17:13
maakuwe were on turbo mode all night with 20-second blocks17:13
maakunot sure what the feb 2 timestamp is. that's probably just when the genesis block was made. the chain was fresh yesterday17:14
maakuwait wrong channel. sorry17:15
kanzurehilarious17:15
kanzureyou guys may have faked the timestamp to make it look more respectable :-)17:22
kanzurefenn: here's a block with more than one transaction http://sidechain.fairlystable.org/block/5b8d2ac83fc23929466fe8fb6f0b40fd7bd7710c6d8eb2d00b9d4e33032813c717:26
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Adlaieh, not like there's decentralization theater for sale17:31
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Adlai(any such is probably from misrepresentations of what sidechains allow)17:32
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kanzurewin 1117:57
kanzurerjeoiqrjoiqjrqreq17:57
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kanzurehmph21:19
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