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| xrr | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6zpEyDvdRA | 00:49 |
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| yoleaux | Intro to DNA, DNA synthesis, and microfluidics (Nathan McCorkle) - YouTube | 00:49 |
| xrr | At 34:38 he talks about an idea to use photoisomerization for DNA synthesis. What do you think? Have there been attempts to do this? | 00:49 |
| xrr | Oh cool, it's you, nmz787 | 01:00 |
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| erasmus | justanotheruser http://ktla.com/2015/07/22/dead-man-with-hundreds-of-weapons-linked-to-disappearance-of-oxnard-mother/ | 01:15 |
| justanotheruser | erasmus: why are you linking me this | 01:29 |
| erasmus | cause of your love for guns. | 01:29 |
| erasmus | !gun control | 01:29 |
| erasmus | gon control | 01:29 |
| erasmus | gun control | 01:29 |
| erasmus | you removed it? | 01:30 |
| justanotheruser | what? | 01:30 |
| erasmus | dude had 6 ½ tons of ammo in his condo | 01:30 |
| justanotheruser | how is this related to a love of guns? | 01:30 |
| erasmus | 5 million in guns | 01:30 |
| justanotheruser | what did I remove? | 01:30 |
| erasmus | you had a trigger for gun control | 01:30 |
| erasmus | it said like NO GUN CONTROL | 01:30 |
| justanotheruser | how is this related to this channel? You don't need to message me in the one channel we share for things not channel related. IRC has private messages and you're not on my ignore list. | 01:31 |
| justanotheruser | Is a trigger for gun control a pun the NRA uses to describe gun control advocates? | 01:32 |
| erasmus | no | 01:34 |
| erasmus | yer getting upset. I can tell. | 01:35 |
| erasmus | it's not important. Just an interesting read since it involves aliens. | 01:35 |
| justanotheruser | Not upset, just incredibly confused | 01:36 |
| justanotheruser | My statement above may have sounded mad, but I was just pointing out the facts surrounding my confusion. | 01:36 |
| erasmus | ok. | 01:43 |
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| nsh | kanzure, systematisation of science may follow somewhat from the complexity-induced rigor and latent structure of computationalised empirical frameworks | 04:15 |
| nsh | there ought to be some kind of occam flow/drift that repositions concepts as they are translated into an algorithmic ecosystem | 04:17 |
| nsh | the complexity of representation and transformation lead to a kind of locality/proximity/relative-elucidation measure for different notions and models and givens | 04:18 |
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| kanzure | .title http://www.nature.com/news/visionary-leader-of-china-s-genomics-powerhouse-steps-down-1.18059 | 06:39 |
| yoleaux | Visionary leader of China’s genomics powerhouse steps down : Nature News & Comment | 06:39 |
| kanzure | .title http://curbed.com/archives/2015/07/23/syd-mead-city-architecture-blade-runner-design-future.php | 06:40 |
| yoleaux | Syd Mead, the Artist Who Illustrates the Future - Estate of the Arts - Curbed National | 06:40 |
| kanzure | ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9950002 ) | 06:42 |
| kanzure | "It hadn't occurred to me that Syd Mead might still be alive." | 06:42 |
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| cluckj | http://www.battlediabetes.com/lifestyle/diabetes/type-1-diabetes/is-an-endless-supply-of-free-home-brewed-insulin-in-your-future | 07:27 |
| cluckj | I love intersections of my personal and professional life | 07:27 |
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| chris_99 | anyone heard of electroactive polymer displays before (i'd love to see a video of the one in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroactive_polymers) | 07:58 |
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| kanzure | .wik electroactive polymers | 08:20 |
| yoleaux | "Electroactive polymers, or EAPs, are polymers that exhibit a change in size or shape when stimulated by an electric field. The most common applications of this type of material are in actuators and sensors. A typical characteristic property of an EAP is that they will undergo a large amount of deformation while sustaining large forces." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroactive_polymers | 08:20 |
| kanzure | nsh: i really don't think it's likely that anyone will ever be able to convince all the scientists to write in a format parseable by an "algorithmic ecosystem". that's just very very unlikely. | 08:23 |
| nsh | no, but there will be some natural feedback between the folks having to model predictively | 08:25 |
| nsh | and the folks wordsing up the models | 08:25 |
| nsh | and if the former can actually educate the latter to minimise the friction of translation | 08:25 |
| nsh | then that's a convergence, if dragging and screaming no doubt | 08:25 |
| nsh | *dragged kicking and screaming | 08:26 |
| Porb | Heya people, anyone know of solid alternatives to CRISPR and TALEN? | 08:27 |
| Porb | Trying to do a little write up for Uni | 08:28 |
| kanzure | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-22/cosmetics-startup-aobiome-sells-bacteria-for-healthier-skin | 08:28 |
| yashgaroth | porb, pretty much only zinc finger nucleases in that realm | 08:29 |
| Porb | ZFNs, looking now - thanks yashgaroth! Know of any good places to find information? | 08:30 |
| yashgaroth | um review articles I guess, depends on the level you're writing for | 08:31 |
| Porb | Just an introduction thing for comp sci students | 08:32 |
| yashgaroth | ehh just parse wikipedia then | 08:32 |
| Porb | Yeah, that's the level I'm at right now, thanks anyway though | 08:33 |
| kanzure | yashgaroth: why does stuff cost so much | 08:33 |
| yashgaroth | quality control, supporting the massive horde of biology graduates | 08:34 |
| yashgaroth | most stuff is being bought by people who aren't spending their own money | 08:34 |
| Porb | Most of it is being purchased by massive companies or universities, for them it's not that much | 08:36 |
| Porb | But god it's expensive, 400$ just to mess with cas9 | 08:38 |
| yashgaroth | still a lot cheaper than zfn/talens | 08:39 |
| Porb | From what i've read | 08:40 |
| Porb | ZFN and TALEN both seem inferior to cas9 | 08:40 |
| Porb | For almost any application | 08:40 |
| yashgaroth | well yeah you have to modify a protein instead of just RNA; not that RNA's the easiest thing to work with, but it's an improvement | 08:41 |
| yashgaroth | I will say the pop-sci masturbation over crispr is a little too enthusiastic, like yeah it's cheaper but paying for TALENs was never the limiting factor in any experiment | 08:42 |
| Porb | It's so hard to find related information on this stuff without getting into the whole "sciencealert" type of stuff | 08:44 |
| kanzure | use scholar.google.com | 08:45 |
| yashgaroth | ^ | 08:45 |
| cluckj | ^^^ | 08:45 |
| Porb | Oh shit, of course | 08:45 |
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| cluckj | that's why we're here | 09:01 |
| FourFire | kanzure, finally running MD simulations now... | 09:18 |
| FourFire | now, when the next one is done, I'm going to recompile gromacs to use GPU and latest AVX | 09:19 |
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| kanzure | /win 17 | 10:29 |
| kanzure | blah | 10:29 |
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| FourFire | Interesting, but is it useful? http://mattg.co.uk/words/noaa_sdr/ | 12:12 |
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| kanzure | " For the next three hundred years in Europe, grave robbing would be a persistent problem without any real solution. So-called “Resurrectionists,” criminals who dug up corpses to sell to medical institutions, became rampant." | 13:12 |
| kanzure | "In Augusta, the Medical College of Georgia went so far as to acquire a slave for their body snatching needs. Grandison Harris had been purchased jointly by all seven members of the college in 1852, taught to read and write, and instructed to monitor newspapers for news of slave burials, and then to exhume the bodies of the recently deceased and return them to the school for dissection. " | 13:13 |
| drethelin | what happened after that | 13:13 |
| drethelin | did enough people start donating their bodies to science? | 13:13 |
| kanzure | from http://www.primerstories.com/2/grave-robbing | 13:14 |
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| chris_99 | http://www.bioinspired.net/products-1.html - memristors in DIP - $199 | 15:13 |
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| sh | kanzure: Not sure why they call it a 'problem'. | 15:31 |
| sh | Sounds more like a solution to me. | 15:31 |
| kanzure | just got this notification from sourceforge http://pastebin.com/yHxEB2Lu | 15:37 |
| juri_ | ah, the cloud. | 15:39 |
| kanzure | superkuh: http://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-direct-sampling-mode/ | 15:39 |
| kanzure | juri_: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/3do9k0/sourceforge_is_down_due_to_storage_problems_no_eta/ct77o49 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9908694 | 15:40 |
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| superkuh | Yep, I am aware. I saw that rtlsdr hit the top of hackernews again this morning. | 16:37 |
| superkuh | That rtl-sdr.com page is basically just a re-write of my own page. | 16:37 |
| superkuh | And by basically I mean almost a 1-to-1 copy. | 16:38 |
| juri_ | I hate when that happens. | 16:38 |
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| heath | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shewanella_oneidensis | 18:00 |
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| kanzure | .wik shewanella oneidensis | 18:35 |
| yoleaux | "Shewanella oneidensis is a bacterium which can reduce poisonous heavy metal ions and can live in both environments with or without oxygen. This proteobacterium was first isolated from Lake Oneida, NY in 1988, which is where the name is derived from." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shewanella_oneidensis | 18:35 |
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| erasmus | .insult kanzure | 19:00 |
| yoleaux | you slutty rectum-socket | 19:00 |
| erasmus | woah | 19:00 |
| JayDugger | Neat! | 19:02 |
| JayDugger | .insult JayDugger | 19:02 |
| yoleaux | you tone deaf dick-hammer | 19:02 |
| JayDugger | .insult JayDugger | 19:03 |
| yoleaux | you tone deaf turd-blossom | 19:03 |
| JayDugger | .insult JayDugger | 19:03 |
| yoleaux | you elitist slut-knob | 19:03 |
| JayDugger | .insult JayDugger | 19:03 |
| yoleaux | you elitist boner-pirate | 19:03 |
| JayDugger | .insult JayDugger | 19:03 |
| yoleaux | you racist ass-waffle | 19:03 |
| JayDugger | And to think I'd learn such insults here! | 19:03 |
| JayDugger | .botsnack | 19:04 |
| yoleaux | :D | 19:04 |
| eudoxia | "racist ass-waffle" 10/10 | 19:20 |
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| JayDugger | I favor "elitist boner-pirate." | 19:22 |
| eudoxia | i read elitist as eleitl | 19:24 |
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| kanzure | http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2lt9206gt/new-york-southern-district-court/elsevier-inc-et-al-v-scihub-et-al/ | 19:36 |
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| kanzure | alexanra elbakyan is listed as the defendant | 20:01 |
| kanzure | i wonder if they figured it out because of http://gnusha.org/logs/2013-07-05.log | 20:02 |
| kanzure | oh it's not in there, good job team | 20:03 |
| kanzure | we're definitely not the cause of her impending doom | 20:04 |
| cluckj | yay | 20:06 |
| eudoxia | we did it guys | 20:07 |
| cluckj | who in here is a john doe | 20:10 |
| fenn | you | 20:10 |
| yashgaroth | I'm number 37! | 20:10 |
| cluckj | yay!! | 20:11 |
| cluckj | I think I met her once | 20:12 |
| kanzure | YOU get an indictment! and YOU get an indictment! everyone gets indictment. | 20:12 |
| kanzure | yes, we met her in 2010 | 20:12 |
| kanzure | at harvard | 20:12 |
| cluckj | ah | 20:12 |
| eudoxia | .wik demonym of kazakhstan | 20:14 |
| yoleaux | "The following is a list of adjectival forms of countries and nations in English and their demonymic equivalents. A country adjective describes something as being from that country, for example, "Italian cuisine" is "cuisine of Italy"." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_adjectival_and_demonymic_forms_for_countries_and_nations | 20:14 |
| cluckj | I'll have to write a bit into my paperbot stuff about its death :< | 20:14 |
| fenn | paperbot worked better before sci-hub anyway | 20:15 |
| kanzure | yeah but what if she also runs libgen | 20:17 |
| kanzure | as elsevier allegesw | 20:17 |
| fenn | that's almost entirely unimportant with respect to actual outcomes for her and for libgen | 20:18 |
| cluckj | ^ | 20:19 |
| kanzure | hm. | 20:20 |
| ParahSailin_ | the armenian mafia will protect her | 20:26 |
| kanzure | well it's not like she's done anything wrong | 20:27 |
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| ParahSailin_ | well, the armenian mafia might not look too kindly on you outing her to the feds | 20:34 |
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