2015-08-29.log

--- Log opened Sat Aug 29 00:00:54 2015
tallakahathdrethelin: I hung out with a bunch of caltech people I ended up seeing two weekends later, where it wasn't so bloody hot. So I guess I got the 'value' but the value was limited.00:08
tallakahathkanzure: I hear there's a splitting happening re: bitcoin?00:08
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chris_99nmz787, not sure if you're about i saw you posted a vid relating two hardware hacking, you might enjoy these two vids:06:00
chris_99https://media.ccc.de/browse/conferences/camp2015/camp2015-6711-hardware_attacks_hacking_chips_on_the_very_cheap.html#video06:00
chris_99https://media.ccc.de/browse/conferences/camp2015/camp2015-6867-singing_capacitors_and_whining_inductors.html#video06:00
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drethelintallakahath were any of the talks worthwhile?07:24
kanzuretallakahath: meh it's just a bunch of noise, see these:07:51
kanzurehttps://medium.com/@sdaftuar/how-the-bitcoin-experiment-might-fail-7f6c24f99ecf07:51
kanzurehttp://gendal.me/2015/08/17/brief-thoughts-on-the-bitcoin-block-size-debate/07:51
kanzurehttp://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010439.html07:51
kanzurehttp://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010447.html07:51
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kanzurehmph08:43
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tallakahathdrethelin: No clue, I was hungover/asleep during all the talks. The friends who did go seemed 'meh' on them.09:39
justanotheruserAre computer glasses useful09:48
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drethelinI like flux10:16
drethelinand computer glasses can create a similar effect10:16
justanotheruserThey are said to block blue and UV light. I don't know enough about eyes to know if that matters10:23
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nshcan anyone access this book from wankerlink? http://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-3-663-09197-410:55
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kanzurensh: you mean wankerkink10:58
nshaye10:58
nshnm, got it11:00
nsh( http://www.uploadable.ch/file/ZWTf7MAGbNX4/dlurt.A.History.of.Complex.Dynamics.pdf )11:00
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chris_99i was just reading this comment on HN about JOVE 'you have to pay for the entire process (20K was the estimate we got)' which seems ridiculous to me11:32
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souljack [A13:01
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kanzureyashgaroth: tell me things14:39
kanzurechris_99: that's hilarious, great find14:39
chris_99yeah it's crazy heh14:39
yashgaroththings about what things14:40
kanzureoh you know.. stuff.14:40
yashgarothhmm14:40
kanzurei am knee-deep in weird math stuff so wanted a biology reset14:42
kanzurelike https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/User:Gmaxwell/Reverse_header-fetching_sync14:43
yashgarothI think the ligase assembly method for 8-10mer oligos should work fine with the inkjet printer assuming it can actually print, have been meaning to test that reaction out14:46
yashgarothsuper-resolution microscopy is still the last interesting advance in biology14:46
yashgarothI need to form a shell company to start ordering cell lines that I will absolutely 100% destroy after one year or else form a licensing agreement with the patent-holders14:47
kanzuredo you need money and stuff for testing the ligase stuff14:53
yashgarothjust time tbh, reagents are pretty cheap but working out the best methods and lab time is a pain14:54
kanzureif you can find someone to hire and convince them to do the work, i can pay for that person14:54
yashgarothgood biologists are hard to find, but maybe15:01
gradstudentbotHey, I got 100% yield! Oh wait, no.15:01
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delinquentmeyashgaroth,  what cell lines15:37
yashgarothglycoswitch pichia15:37
delinquentmealsooooo lab space in shipping containers15:37
delinquentmeYAY15:37
delinquentmeidk if I want it though15:37
yashgarotheasy to load onto a truck, for all your mobile bioweapon needs15:38
mginhow much does it cost to start a biology lab15:38
delinquentmecGMP shipping containers: http://www.biologicsmodular.com/biologics-modular/about-biologics-modular/ http://www.germfree.com/15:39
delinquentmew regards to cell lines / promoters / things which induce overexpression ... these are subject to a HOST of constraints right?   Its not just " this works best in this cell line "15:40
delinquentmeyashgaroth, why  not just human cell lines?15:40
yashgarothexpensive media, take forever to grow, take forever to generate a good producing cell line, absolute sterility requirements, viral clearance purification15:41
delinquentmethe media cost on these cells you're after ... just sugar water?15:43
yashgarothyeast extract, tryptone, trace metals, stuff like that; compared to expensive cell culture media that's got growth hormones and shit for the mammalian cells' widdle babby metabolisms that can't handle actually digesting food15:45
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kanzuremgin: well you just have to buy this stuff http://diyhpl.us/cgit/skdb/tree/doc/BOMs/diybio-equipment.yaml17:21
kanzureso, $1-20k depending on how cheap you are, or how okay you are with everything always breaking17:22
juri_so, no progress?18:06
kanzurehuh?18:09
juri_no chemist ywt?18:29
kanzurenope18:34
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kanzure"bloodcoin" for bloodbanking .. not related to bitcoin though: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=131637.019:03
juri_damnit. need me to find one?19:03
kanzureyep sure19:04
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juri_phd, with dns synthesis xp?19:12
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kanzurenah can be undergrad, grad student19:17
kanzurephosphoramidite chemistry experience, phosphotriester stuff, phosphorous stuff, other organic chemistry stuff is fine i don't give a shit19:17
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* kanzure boops and beeps, http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/irc/bitcoin/bitcointalk-bookmarks.jotmuch-stdout2.txt19:37
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kanzurealonzotg was posting to bitcoin-dev back in 2011 http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2011-July/000254.html19:59
kanzure(the uploader conspiracy nut)19:59
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kanzurehttps://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-242-meet-the-lightning-network20:47
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JayDuggerGood morning.23:16
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