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| kanzure | also drilling into fly brains is always fun | 00:02 |
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| kanzure | .title http://www.google.com/patents/US6706203 | 00:21 |
| yoleaux | Patent US6706203 - Adjustable nanopore, nanotome, and nanotweezer - Google Patents | 00:21 |
| kanzure | "An adjustable nanopore is fabricated by placing the surfaces of two planar substrates in contact, wherein each substrate contains a hole having sharp corners and edges. A corner is brought into proximity with an edge to define a triangular aperture of variable area. Ionic current in a liquid solution and through the aperture is monitored as the area of the aperture is adjusted by moving one planar substrate with respect to the other ... | 00:22 |
| kanzure | ... along two directional axes and a rotational axis. Piezoelectric positioners can provide subnanometer repeatability in the adjustment process." | 00:22 |
| kanzure | duh? | 00:22 |
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| JayDugger | Good morning. | 06:00 |
| erasmus | what's so good about it? | 06:09 |
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| kanzure | beep | 06:28 |
| JayDugger | Still breathing, and that's good. | 06:45 |
| xrr | +1 | 06:45 |
| JayDugger | Kanzure, please tell me your current opinion of Ethereum. "Go grep the chat logs, lazybones," makes a good answer, BTW. | 06:46 |
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| kanzure | JayDugger: you can safely ignore it, but the summary that hotwheels from 8chan made was pretty good | 06:49 |
| kanzure | JayDugger: behold the power of chanculture! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84WO2vq7Y1E | 06:50 |
| JayDugger | Thank you. I'll watch that after I finish breakfast and kitten-feeding. | 06:56 |
| JayDugger | And I assume that also holds for Augur, too. | 06:57 |
| kanzure | here is a strategy guide for kitten feeding https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlRBd4sLhEc | 07:02 |
| JayDugger | Wow, that is so sweet. I think I need a shot of insulin as a chaser. | 07:06 |
| augur | o.o | 07:12 |
| kanzure | http://bitfury.com/content/5-white-papers-research/1-bitfury-report-on-block-size-increase/bitfury-report-on-block-size-increase.pdf | 07:15 |
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| kanzure | eudoxia: sup | 08:31 |
| eudoxia | kanzure: reading http://ngnghm.github.io/ | 08:32 |
| kanzure | .title | 08:32 |
| yoleaux | Houyhnhnm Computing | 08:32 |
| kanzure | "Houyhnhnms are a race of intelligent horses" fucken horses | 08:32 |
| eudoxia | i know, right? | 08:33 |
| kanzure | this seems like something that nsh would appreciate, but that i might murder you for reading | 08:34 |
| nsh | you'd murder someone for reading gulliver's travels? | 08:35 |
| nsh | i admire this dedication | 08:35 |
| JayDugger | Yeah, he has a grudge against Swift's joke about the Irish. | 08:35 |
| kanzure | this is a parable about horses waxing poetic about persistence and computational complexity, it completely deserves murder | 08:35 |
| nsh | oh okay | 08:35 |
| kanzure | :-) | 08:35 |
| JayDugger | 100% BABY-HIDE, just like the Voight-Kampf test question. | 08:36 |
| superkuh | sci-hub has only received 1.5 BTC total donations so far. :\ | 08:37 |
| eudoxia | it's like loper-os.org but with longer paragraphs | 08:37 |
| kanzure | sci-hub person needs to stop talking with elsevier lawyers | 08:37 |
| kanzure | http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2lt9206gt/new-york-southern-district-court/elsevier-inc-et-al-v-scihub-et-al/ | 08:38 |
| juri_ | git commit -a -m 'YOLO' | 08:38 |
| kanzure | elsevier lawyers are going to cause much more than 10x that amount | 08:40 |
| kanzure | or i mean, defending against elsevier lawyers | 08:40 |
| superkuh | What is the alternative to talking? | 08:40 |
| kanzure | stay in kazakhstan | 08:40 |
| kanzure | sucky alternative i guess | 08:40 |
| gradstudentbot | My code doesn't work. I have no idea why... | 08:41 |
| eudoxia | that site is so confusing | 08:41 |
| superkuh | It's been painful to go back to relying on r/scholar and people with university connections. | 08:41 |
| eudoxia | is Urvashi San representing Elsevier or Elbakyan? | 08:41 |
| eudoxia | Sen* | 08:41 |
| kanzure | afaik elbakyan has no representation | 08:43 |
| kanzure | we need a better long-term solution | 08:45 |
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| chris_99 | CaptHindsight, have you used a TCP/IP stack on an MCU per chance, just wondering if you've got any recommendations, i'm currently looking @ lwIP and CycloneTCP | 09:45 |
| gradstudentbot | May I ask what formula did you use? | 09:47 |
| juri_ | how small of an MCU? | 09:50 |
| ParahSailin | the lawyers say the wtfpl is not valid license | 09:50 |
| WashIrving | Is CC0 a valid formalisation of WTFPL? | 09:52 |
| WashIrving | I suppose it's missing the rename constraint. | 09:52 |
| gradstudentbot | The autoclave smells really good. | 09:55 |
| ParahSailin | cc0 is allowed | 09:59 |
| kanzure | i wonder if wtfpl has been tested in court | 10:04 |
| WashIrving | I don't see who would challenge it. The preferences of the original rights owner are "I won't pursue what others might call rights violations". I don't see any incentive for other users to; worst-case, they're permitted to switch to MIT or GPL or what-please-you. Though.. say someone were to take a WTFPL project, re-license as "all rights reserved", then pursue existing forks.. | 10:08 |
| chris_99 | juri_, stm32f429 | 10:13 |
| chris_99 | or wait f407 | 10:13 |
| juri_ | wow. people call that a MCU nowadays.. ;) | 10:14 |
| chris_99 | hehe | 10:14 |
| delinquentme | what are the advantages to using viruses for genomic integration vrs transfection? | 10:14 |
| delinquentme | higher colony integration %? | 10:15 |
| kanzure | https://bitcoinmagazine.com/21809/open-letter-bitcoin-community-developers/ | 10:31 |
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| ParahSailin | its actually a pretty good defense mechanism-- if you dont want big company using it, use a joke license | 10:44 |
| kanzure | ask the author for an mit or bsd licensed version | 10:45 |
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| ryankarason | i like virus licenses like the GPL | 11:08 |
| ryankarason | infect all the code. | 11:08 |
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| juri_ | AGPLV3 or bust. | 12:36 |
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| kanzure | i'll go with bust, thanks | 12:37 |
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| kanzure | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcBB2o7Bmwc | 13:00 |
| yoleaux | Wiring up the 103,680 core SpiNNaker 105 Machine - YouTube | 13:01 |
| kanzure | eh just timelapse of people plugging things in. nevermind. | 13:01 |
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| kanzure | gourneau is working for synthego now? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10155343 | 13:13 |
| kanzure | also one of the startups there claims to be doing "real-time live scanning and inline processing" of satellite imagery http://planet.com/ | 13:17 |
| heath | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Power_of_10:_Rules_for_Developing_Safety-Critical_Code | 13:17 |
| kanzure | strange that there's no autonomous drone software companies posting in that thread today | 13:19 |
| kanzure | what happened to airware etc | 13:19 |
| kanzure | or skybox | 13:19 |
| kanzure | .title http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26303010 | 13:23 |
| yoleaux | Effects of sleep and wake on astrocytes: clues from molecular and ultrastructural studies. - PubMed - NCBI | 13:23 |
| heath | "Visit to the World's Fair of 2014" https://www.nytimes.com/books/97/03/23/lifetimes/asi-v-fair.html | 13:25 |
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| heath | i didn't realize the actor model came from AI research | 13:47 |
| heath | http://ijcai.org/Past%20Proceedings/IJCAI-73/PDF/027B.pdf | 13:47 |
| kanzure | they probably just mean "lisp research" | 13:47 |
| kanzure | since the two were synonymous at one point | 13:47 |
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| ParahSailin | haha 2013 logo https://scholar.google.com/ | 15:06 |
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| CaptHindsight | chris_99: the device is big enough for http://www.emcraft.com/stm32f429discovery/running-tcp-stack-in-linux | 16:02 |
| chris_99 | hmm interesting, yeah i said stm32f429 at first, which i've got a bunch of, but annoyingly the discovery boards, that they're on, have to be hacked - a lot, in order to attach a PHY, so it'd be an stm32f407 instead | 16:03 |
| CaptHindsight | http://www.st.com/web/en/catalog/mmc/FM141/SC1169/SS1577/LN11 | 16:04 |
| CaptHindsight | from 512 Kbytes to 1 MByte of Flash, 192 Kbytes of SRAM | 16:05 |
| CaptHindsight | LwIP TCP/IP stack total 51932 Bytes of Flash | 16:11 |
| CaptHindsight | 47653 Bytes of SRAM | 16:12 |
| chris_99 | cool, so that'd fit fine | 16:12 |
| CaptHindsight | http://www.st.com/st-web-ui/static/active/en/resource/technical/document/application_note/DM00036052.pdf | 16:13 |
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| CaptHindsight | Table 16. Httpserver netconn demo footprint | 16:14 |
| CaptHindsight | chris_99: I think we were looking at those for car ECU's | 16:15 |
| chris_99 | oh cool :) | 16:15 |
| CaptHindsight | quickly becoming my most hated closed source computer | 16:15 |
| chris_99 | why so? | 16:16 |
| CaptHindsight | OEM's put in codes that bet thrown when there aren't actual issues, like use of 3rd party coils, or the CAT's losing 5% efficiency etc | 16:17 |
| CaptHindsight | bet/get | 16:17 |
| CaptHindsight | just to get you to use OEM parts or provide opportunities for unnecessary service | 16:18 |
| chris_99 | ah darn | 16:18 |
| chris_99 | i found this i want to try on that board too - https://github.com/iliasam/STM32F4_USB_MICROPHONE which should provide a USB audio device, so i can then hack it around a bit, to get a MEMS mic working | 16:20 |
| CaptHindsight | chris_99: also remote fun http://www.wired.com/2015/07/hackers-remotely-kill-jeep-highway/ | 16:35 |
| chris_99 | oh i think i've got their paper on all the different attack vectors etc. for that car, which i need to read through, tis very interesting | 16:37 |
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| maaku | Shower thought: HPMoR is actually not bad pedagogically, so long as you realize that Harry is just a foil for Prof Quirrell / Tom Riddle, the real main character and proper role model | 16:58 |
| kanzure | maaku: i still want a recording of gmaxwell reading eliezer yudkowsky's author note number 119 | 17:06 |
| maaku | heh | 17:06 |
| kanzure | http://hpmor.com/notes/119/ | 17:06 |
| kanzure | also, i have 15 pages to go before i am done with my bitcointalk.org "technical forum" read-through | 17:07 |
| maaku | I love the "I can predict business success [because BAYES] so give me money!" part. | 17:07 |
| kanzure | really it's perfect | 17:08 |
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| ParahSailin | well, ey is at sequoia now, so i guess it worked | 17:09 |
| kanzure | what | 17:10 |
| maaku | ...seriously? | 17:10 |
| catern | ParahSailin: proofs? | 17:30 |
| ParahSailin | oh, totally trolling | 17:30 |
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| kanzure | there. done reading the subforum. | 17:50 |
| kanzure | these files: http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/bitcointalk.org-technical/ | 17:50 |
| kanzure | i am interested in hearing suggestions for how to quickly (manually) read a 400 MB irc log file | 17:50 |
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| pasky | don't do it? | 17:58 |
| pasky | (manually) | 17:58 |
| kanzure | pasky: i don't have ai and neither do you | 18:04 |
| kanzure | survey regarding "academic bioprinting in europe" http://ww3.unipark.de/uc/Lehrstuhl_Professor_Henkel/cfa3/ | 18:05 |
| Betawolf | kanzure: this is the log with all the joins/parts etc filtered out? | 18:06 |
| kanzure | not yet filtered out | 18:12 |
| kanzure | but yes i will be filtering those lines out | 18:12 |
| pasky | kanzure: yeah, but writing a specialized one would be imho still much more efficient | 18:14 |
| kanzure | i was thinking of a "sliding window metric of probably-interesting conversation" where the metric is determined by number of unique discussion participants, average length of message above some threshold, average length of words | 18:15 |
| Betawolf | you might also see benefit from reading only chunks of messages within a timeframe of each other (conversations, basically), to save you reading random noise on the channel such as people asking a question and having no reply. You could manage separation of those automatically but developing it could take up more time. | 18:16 |
| Betawolf | oh, you were already past that idea. | 18:16 |
| kanzure | and then i could have a 20 to 50 word weighted tag cloud as input for relative interestingness of somewhat-high-frequency terms or something, which should also be computed in the metric of the relevancy of the sliding window judger thingy | 18:16 |
| kanzure | and then certain users will be given an additional weight too, or er other users will be given a negative weight based on my prejudgement of them (new users will of course have no particular weight, because i don't mind them) | 18:17 |
| kanzure | er.. plus their irc nick aliases_ | 18:18 |
| pasky | just seen a poster today at SIGDIAL pre-conference in Prague about splitting out individual interleaved conversations from IRC http://arxiv.org/pdf/1506.08909.pdf https://github.com/ryan-lowe/Ubuntu-Dialogue-Corpus/blob/master/createdataset.py | 18:19 |
| kanzure | strangely enough i have found that daily file size for irc logs is often a good metric of discussion quality (unless the channel was experiencing user growth) | 18:19 |
| pasky | not sure if it's usable in practice but if so, that might help dismiss useless stuff quickl | 18:19 |
| Betawolf | you could get an initial judge of the usefulness of unrecognised nicks by calculating their average line length (probably in words to account for link-spam) | 18:19 |
| kanzure | like http://gnusha.org/logs/?C=S;O=D | 18:19 |
| Betawolf | if you wanted to get fancy you could get into vocabulary measurements | 18:20 |
| kanzure | this data set (bitcoin irc logs) seems to be about 5 to 10 million lines and maybe 50 million words, so yes i thnk i have to get somewhat fancy | 18:21 |
| pasky | kanzure: so if it's nothing specific you look for, just want to enrich your internal mental state in general, my machinne learning approach would be to gather data, then throw stuff at them and see what sticks | 18:21 |
| pasky | so the first step to read 400M worth of logs is to read 1M and tag each conversation | 18:22 |
| kanzure | for -wizards logs i think i have to also have certain keywords cause all surrounding messages to be downweighted- like when users are talking about proof-of-stake stuff. ugh. | 18:22 |
| kanzure | ehhhh i dunno if i want to construct a training dataset though | 18:23 |
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| kanzure | that's even more work | 18:23 |
| Betawolf | having automatic topic labels for conversations would allow you to read all conversations on one topic in order, meaning you don't have to context switch as much | 18:23 |
| pasky | kanzure: just make up two macros that write filename+line number somewhere and mash those two keys while reading? | 18:23 |
| kanzure | yeah but you said tag | 18:24 |
| pasky | kanzure: if you come up with custom (nontrained) heuristics, this way you can still rigorously and *quickly* measure their false negatives; I think it'd save you time in the long run | 18:24 |
| pasky | well you can do it like interesting/boring, or rate 0 to 10, or do finer classification depending on what do you actually want | 18:25 |
| kanzure | hmm. | 18:25 |
| Betawolf | so, avoiding training, you could read every conversation which contains 'merkel trees' in order, then every conversation not in the previous set which contains <another topic> | 18:25 |
| Betawolf | you can pull out those sorts of terms with tf/idf or something like that | 18:26 |
| pasky | I think either way, the first step is to split the log file at least roughly to conversations | 18:26 |
| Betawolf | yes | 18:26 |
| kanzure | huh these logs are not good... weird format. | 18:33 |
| kanzure | 8 MB excerpt of bitcoin-wizards logs (2013-03-03 to 2014-03-12) http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/bitcoin/wizards/partial.txt | 18:34 |
| Betawolf | the opened/closed lines don't seem to match the surrounding timestamps | 18:36 |
| pasky | the beginning looks just like normal irssi logs, and it's not really that dense | 18:40 |
| pasky | the end looks completely different | 18:40 |
| kanzure | step zero, get better data :| | 18:41 |
| Betawolf | '--- Log closed Wed Jan 01 00:00:44 2014' is where they switch to logging seconds | 18:41 |
| kanzure | trying to get better logs from eligius person | 18:44 |
| CaptHindsight | anyone work at a lab where they do Biocompatibility testing of materials for ISO 10993? | 18:59 |
| CaptHindsight | https://www.namsa.com/Portals/0/Documents/biocompatibility-matrix.pdf | 19:00 |
| kanzure | jordan miller might know some biocompatibility people | 19:00 |
| kanzure | but he hasn't been online in ages | 19:00 |
| kanzure | too busy at rice goofing off with his lab and stuff... | 19:00 |
| CaptHindsight | it's mostly materials for Surface Devices | 19:01 |
| CaptHindsight | <24 hour Limited Contact | 19:02 |
| CaptHindsight | mostly dental or sinus applications | 19:03 |
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