2015-09-03.log

--- Log opened Thu Sep 03 00:00:59 2015
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fennmachine workout video, with customer service! featuring oversize machines and spindle swapping. (brought to you by the color chrome yellow) http://youtu.be/J0CfHFzW2Qk05:41
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kanzurelet's do that stuff07:40
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kanzure"automatic tool change... BUT AROUND CURVED WALLS."07:49
kanzureseems to be for whole-floor tool change routing for all spindles07:53
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Betawolfhttp://www.nature.com/articles/srep1248807:59
kanzure.title08:00
yoleauxA Magnetic Wormhole : Scientific Reports08:00
kanzurehttp://www.techinsider.io/billionaires-who-want-to-live-forever-2015-908:00
paskyh, it's a czech company!08:00
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kanzure.title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDwzmJpI4io08:11
yoleauxA Conversation with Elon Musk - YouTube08:11
paskythank god for google auto-transcripts08:12
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kanzuresorta preachy but ignore the preachy parts http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/the-new-monastic-individuals-as-the-change-agents-for-this-transition-period/2012/07/0410:09
kanzure"A comprehensive comparison of the Sun to other stars: searching for self-selection effects" http://arxiv.org/abs/0805.296210:13
kanzure"A Larger Estimate of the Entropy of the Universe" http://arxiv.org/abs/0909.3983v110:13
kanzure"Life, gravity and the second law of thermodynamics" http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~charley/papers/LineweaverEgan2008v2.pdf10:14
kanzureother fun things http://www.mso.anu.edu.au/~charley/publications.html10:16
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nshwhat are self-selection effects?11:09
nshis this some attempt to rehabilitate the anthropic principle to be scientific?11:09
* nsh expresses preemptive dubiety11:09
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nshoh, this is pretty sensible from the abstract11:10
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delinquentmewhy does it seem like a billion things can go wrong in the process of getting things secreted from cells?11:18
kanzurebecause humans have a hard time distinguishing between 2 million things and 1 billion things11:23
delinquentmeso what you're trying to say is theres only about 500 million things that can go wrong11:33
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kanzureyou could always run a selection project to get something reliably secreted from a cell11:34
kanzurebut setup for selection projects is often ugh11:34
kanzurea good selection project saves a million hours in the library11:35
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delinquentmekanzure, you're thinking this is transient or genomic integrated vector ( in the selection project )12:10
delinquentmeyou're saying that the selection is just lots of permutations on all the different genetic components to get high expression12:10
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kanzureeh more like "be creative about ways to use bruteforcing and mutation to your advantage to get transmembrane protein channels for pumping out your desired molecules"12:13
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delinquentmelarge scale screening in something like this would be handy ... like take an input sequence .. get it secreting. change shit in the different parts of that sequence then see what changes in the expression12:19
delinquentmeslash secretion12:19
delinquentmethat would give us a really solid mapping of what influences or prevents secretion12:20
kanzurethere's many different existing secretion systems12:20
kanzurea few of them work by just attaching some random linker protein to your target, and it poops out no problem12:20
kanzureunfortunately i forget the names of these secretion systems and you'll have to pester yashgaroth12:20
kanzure(although there's probably no secretion system that works for all possible targets)12:21
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kanzuregeneric distributed systems book from stripe http://book.mixu.net/distsys/intro.html12:41
kanzure"live interactive grep of linux kernel source code" http://livegrep.com/search/linux12:42
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kanzure"That's... a bizarre argument. You might as well argue that since heavier-than-air-flight is a search problem over an effectively infinite, high-dimensional landscape of possible machines - and that since it took evolution billions of years to produce birds, we have little chance of stumbling upon a working design for a wing."12:44
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Etmanhi16:27
kanzuregreetings16:27
Etmanhow are they?16:30
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kanzurealright16:38
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kanzuremulti-chain payment channel network stuff http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-September/010909.html17:07
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kanzureyashgaroth: delinquentme is interested in clever secretion systems17:17
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rancydhi all17:18
kanzuregreets17:19
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yashgarothwell he appears to be out so I'll just chillax here17:21
rancydis the wiki a component of cgit?17:22
kanzurewiki is a git repository17:24
kanzurecgit displays git repositories17:24
kanzuregithub also displays repositories: https://github.com/kanzure/diyhpluswiki17:25
rancydgotcha, what software are you using for the wiki? im just curious because i am setting up a site myself that really just needs a multiuser wiki and git server/browser, and yours seems very minimalist which is nice17:31
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kanzureikiwiki17:32
kanzurewhole thing is piny17:32
kanzurehttp://piny.be/ahl/architecture/17:32
rancydoh cool, thank you17:32
kanzurewait, that's not the right wiki17:33
jrayhawkhttp://piny.be/17:35
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rancyddo you deploy piny on your own server?17:37
kanzureyes piny is running on that server17:41
rancydcool, thanks for the info17:44
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jrayhawkhttp://piny.be/piny-code/docs/install_notes.txt my documentation on it is sort of bad because i am the only person who has thusfar deployed it, AFAIK17:50
jrayhawkthat said, it is used all over the place, including for freedesktop.org17:50
rancydoh nice, that looks really helpful17:52
rancyddid you happen to test with jessie at all?17:54
jrayhawkThat's a good question. I think there were some brief problems with mod-auth-pam and mod-auth-sys-group packaging; let me go see if any of those installs are up to date...17:56
rancydk, thnx17:57
jrayhawkSo I don't currently have any fully functioning jessie deployments, but it looks like okay, looks like the functionality for libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group has been replaced by libapache2-mod-authz-unixgroup, so I don't forsee major problems other than that.18:01
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jrayhawks/looks like okay, //18:02
jrayhawkI think I last tested jessie back when the apache 2.2->2.4 transition was going on.18:02
jrayhawkjessie-or-equivalent-sid18:03
jrayhawkoh, i don't have instructions for suexecing cgit, there18:06
jrayhawkugh18:06
jrayhawkdocumentation is hard18:06
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rancydhm, okay i should be able to figure that out. i like documentation, i will probably document my efforts if succuessful18:08
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jrayhawkApache actually makes privilege separation bafflingly difficult; I had to shim suexec with https://secure.piny.be/cgit/insecuresuexec/ to get cgit working with e.g. core.sharedrepository=0660 or 064018:11
jrayhawkbut if you aren't running any such repositories, you don't need to care18:11
jrayhawkprivilege separation is sortof a good idea if you're in a shared execution environment anyway, what with apache handling pam credentials.18:13
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kanzure"The success of fixed wing aircraft is not an ideal metaphor for the failures of AI research. Nor do the successes of neural nets herald the biomorphic approach, since they don't really resemble the brain very much."18:16
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rancydgotcha, thanks again jrayhawk18:25
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abetuskkanzure, where is that quote from?18:31
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kanzureabetusk: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1016558618:34
kanzurebut poor thread comments, is very ugh18:34
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kanzurehi zamanfou19:22
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kanzure"bonded deployment" and rollout of bips to avoid soft-fork bit exhaustion or soft-fork bit meaning confusion http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2015/09/04#l1441334584.021:19
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