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| kanzure | beep | 03:43 |
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| JayDugger | boop | 03:54 |
| kanzure | "Assuming we have 100e9 neurons and 600e12 synapses; we'll need just log2(100e9 + 600e12) ~= 50 ±1 bits to address every single neuron and synapse in the human brain." | 04:10 |
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| kanzure | but told him to look anyway at page 79 of http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/brain-emulation-roadmap-report.pdf | 04:10 |
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| Douhet | kanzure, so 64bits is plenty? | 06:44 |
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| archels | kanzure: my prof is involved in some sort of "addressing scheme" in the HBP | 07:33 |
| archels | the whole idea is pretty useless if you ask me | 07:34 |
| archels | although perhaps you posted this in the context of adding a unique (DNA?) tag to each cell—I believe the BRAIN project was doing something along these lines | 07:34 |
| archels | with a sort of ticker tape DNA strand that recorded activity, tagging it with a unique identifier of the cell | 07:35 |
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| nsh | Human ?ome Project? | 09:01 |
| nsh | .wik HBP Human project | 09:01 |
| yoleaux | "The Human Brain Project is a large 10-year scientific research project, established in 2013, coordinated by Henry Markram (École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne) and largely funded by the European Union, which aims to provide a collaborative informatics infrastructure and first draft rodent and human whole brain models within its 10 …" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Brain_Project | 09:01 |
| nsh | oh right, yeah | 09:01 |
| nsh | futile silliness. probably not entirely wasted work though | 09:01 |
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| archels | nsh: well, I feel that this is a situation where the paradigm determines the nitty-gritty research that is carried out particularly strongly | 10:47 |
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| archels | because we still seem to be under the impression that the brain is a perfectly modular structure, from individual neurons that are each more or less doing their own thing to whole brain areas that are each more or less doing their own thing | 10:47 |
| nsh | yes | 10:47 |
| nsh | we are paradigmatically undiverse to the point of dogmatic myopia | 10:47 |
| nsh | contramainstream modelling, hypotheses or research is pushed towards fringes | 10:48 |
| nsh | centralisation of of publishing and peer-review further exasperates | 10:49 |
| archels | yeah, this was one of the primary arguments against the HBP | 10:49 |
| nsh | even the citation graph is a monoculture | 10:49 |
| nsh | i'm not sure how to approach that problem | 10:50 |
| nsh | there is probably a clever, simple and wrong solution | 10:50 |
| nsh | and possibly a hard, complicated and laborious one that might even work | 10:50 |
| archels | mhm | 10:53 |
| archels | well, one of the main issues as I see it is how to manage this hugely expanded flow of information | 10:53 |
| archels | science is so much bigger now than it was a few decades ago—not in terms of "big science" blah, but just so many more people doing science and producing output | 10:54 |
| archels | how do you filter the streams of data that are relevant to you? How do you advertise your own output? | 10:54 |
| archels | and all that overhead and layers of organization associated with that :\ | 10:55 |
| kanzure | watching supermoon at igem sounds like fun time | 11:03 |
| archels | supermoon is tonight, right? | 11:04 |
| kanzure | yep, i am in chicago though. wrong place. | 11:05 |
| kanzure | not igem. | 11:05 |
| kanzure | chalk this one up to lack of planning | 11:06 |
| archels | I am in Hamburg. saw moon earlier, didn't notice engrandening in particular | 11:06 |
| kanzure | wrong time though | 11:07 |
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| crescendo | I propose a kanzure-managed swarm of the diyhplus library; initial suggestion is BitTorrent Sync, but maybe a proper signed torrent with updates would work as well | 17:08 |
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| justanotheruser | is there a standard for torrents without redundancies? | 17:29 |
| crescendo | BEP 35 and 39 are the torrent-native versions of what I'm referring to, but Sync might have de-duping: http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0035.html && http://bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0039.html | 17:32 |
| crescendo | I'd defer to bramc on this | 17:33 |
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| kanzure | how kind of you to propose someone else do all this work | 18:11 |
| crescendo | I can set it up, but you're cataloguing the bulk of the content, so I'd just need to give you setup instructions and place to dump them. I'd be happy to write something to auto-sync with what you have as well, but want to be sure it'd be something people would use | 18:13 |
| crescendo | this way, one server doesn't have to incur the load if someone wants to `wget -r` the whole thing | 18:13 |
| crescendo | and it stays up to date (the hard part) | 18:14 |
| crescendo | also, if there's another option, I'd be interested to hear it before pushing all the stuff out | 18:18 |
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| nmz787 | Houshalter: howdy | 22:09 |
| Houshalter | nmz787, hello | 22:10 |
| nmz787 | Houshalter: I knew someone with a similar name in Pittsburgh | 22:10 |
| Houshalter | Householder? | 22:11 |
| nmz787 | haushalter | 22:12 |
| nmz787 | I think | 22:13 |
| Houshalter | ah that's the original german version | 22:13 |
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