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| Hercules | Hello | 00:42 |
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| Hercules | I am trying to setup an RC Transmitter and Receiver on my Quadcopter of my RPi | 00:42 |
| Hercules | How do I setup it on it? | 00:42 |
| fenn | please ask in ##electronics | 00:47 |
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| kanzure | nah on second thought let's just wait for the singularity </sarc> | 03:42 |
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| kanzure | http://offers.p212121.com/ does reagent price tracking comparative shopping things.. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10526618 | 05:09 |
| kanzure | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diseconomies_of_scale | 05:14 |
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| kanzure | ">30 billion 45 μm diameter droplets per hour" http://pubs.rsc.org/en/content/articlelanding/2015/lc/c5lc01025j#!divAbstract | 07:42 |
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| kanzure | FourFire: smaug should be told about copenhagen suborbitals. | 07:57 |
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| Fausta | yayyyyyy | 09:15 |
| Fausta | so happy to be here | 09:16 |
| kanzure | sup | 09:18 |
| FourFire | greetings Fausta | 09:20 |
| FourFire | what brings you here? | 09:20 |
| Fausta | I support transhumanism | 09:21 |
| Fausta | someone told me about this channel just now | 09:21 |
| kanzure | you support? | 09:21 |
| Fausta | I think it is a good thing which should and will happen | 09:22 |
| FourFire | ok | 09:23 |
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| FourFire | We here in the channel (attempt to) actively work towards making it happen. | 09:24 |
| FourFire | For example, I'm trying to make a user configurable BCI, short term, and longterm ... other things | 09:24 |
| poppingtonic | welcome | 09:24 |
| FourFire | kanzure, did you read that tDCS paper I linked earlier? | 09:26 |
| kanzure | nope. which one? | 09:27 |
| kanzure | https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3s063r/what_are_bitcoins_most_important_differentiating/ | 09:27 |
| Fausta | thx | 09:28 |
| Fausta | what is a BCI | 09:28 |
| kanzure | brachiosaurus-computer interface | 09:30 |
| kanzure | 09:30 < c0rw1n> hello cuddly cultits and huggy heretits | 09:31 |
| kanzure | 09:30 < kanzure> howdy | 09:31 |
| kanzure | 09:30 -!- #lesswrong Cannot send to channel | 09:31 |
| kanzure | c0rw1n: :| | 09:31 |
| c0rw1n | yeah. that is why #lesswrong needs a modbot. | 09:32 |
| c0rw1n | i'm going to ##lw-meta to ask that they unquiiet you | 09:32 |
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| cluckj | beep | 11:13 |
| c0rw1n | boop | 11:14 |
| kanzure | cluckj: see popper stuff in http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-11-07.log | 11:17 |
| cluckj | kk | 11:18 |
| cluckj | I should be able to share a copy of my dissertation in a couple weeks when I finish the necessary revisions | 11:19 |
| cluckj | I defended it on Friday and passed | 11:26 |
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| kanzure | congrats | 11:29 |
| kanzure | so do i have to salute you when you enter the room now...? | 11:29 |
| kanzure | how does this work | 11:30 |
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| cluckj | I think it just means that if you want to pay me to do something, it now costs a lot more than it did last Thursday | 11:35 |
| kanzure | pfft you and i both know a phd is worthless in that respect :-) | 11:37 |
| cluckj | ;) | 11:37 |
| Fausta | congrats cluckj | 11:39 |
| Fausta | what is your area | 11:39 |
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| cluckj | science and technology studies, but I am at base a historian/anthropologist of the life sciences | 11:40 |
| kanzure | he is specialist in epistemic warfare and observing amateur science | 11:40 |
| cluckj | that is a much cooler way of putting it | 11:40 |
| cluckj | but I'm not just an observer | 11:40 |
| kanzure | everyone's a critic, hrm. | 11:41 |
| kanzure | "scientist trapmaker" | 11:42 |
| cluckj | I document what I see happening amongst "amateur" science in the course of participating in it | 11:43 |
| kanzure | he does a lot of this https://xkcd.com/356/ | 11:43 |
| cluckj | lol | 11:44 |
| Fausta | amateur science? | 11:46 |
| kanzure | non-institutional | 11:46 |
| kanzure | not really amateur | 11:46 |
| cluckj | some of that stuff that you link to in your popper chat, especially on lesswrong, is really rough | 11:46 |
| kanzure | rough as in wrong? | 11:46 |
| cluckj | sort of? the boundaries that they set up to make their arguments are really quite small | 11:47 |
| Fausta | that was the first funny one I've een | 11:47 |
| cluckj | and make a lot of assumptions | 11:47 |
| Fausta | seen from xkcd | 11:47 |
| cluckj | also not non-institutional either, Genspace has some institutions there | 11:48 |
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| kanzure | genspace is institutional, community biology lab thing | 11:48 |
| cluckj | I either cop out and say "amateur" or "DIY biologists" or come up with a crazier term "parascientists" | 11:48 |
| cluckj | biohacker too, I guess | 11:50 |
| kanzure | so how much of this is wrong? http://fallibleideas.com/ | 11:50 |
| cluckj | I only briefly looked at the "avoiding coercion" post | 11:51 |
| kanzure | was one of the links from the lesswrong threads from yesterday | 11:51 |
| kanzure | hm. | 11:51 |
| cluckj | oh that page is much more interesting | 11:52 |
| cluckj | it says to go read ayn rand at the bottom | 11:52 |
| kanzure | yeah i'm not sure why it says that | 11:52 |
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| cluckj | "In conclusion, it is possible for people to get through everyday life with no coercion at all, with no need to be especially creative, if they want to, just using a small subset of common decency, a trivial, mechanical method, and a moderate amount of reason." == if everyone was (like) me, things would be so much better | 11:53 |
| kanzure | i suspect his method can work even if the other side is using something else that is roughly compatible | 11:54 |
| kanzure | there's no reason to force compatibility when there's none | 11:54 |
| cluckj | I dunno | 11:55 |
| kanzure | he was claiming this is good "summary" of popper stuff. yes/no? | 11:56 |
| kanzure | e.g. his explanation for recursive justification of arguments and why that is a bad strategy | 11:56 |
| cluckj | what he was saying about recursive justification of arguments seems to be based on falsifiability from popper | 11:56 |
| kanzure | cool | 11:57 |
| cluckj | popper was talking specifically about science, not necessarily about how to live in the world, or make arguments | 11:58 |
| cluckj | he (popper) suggests that falsifiability isn't a good measure of what counts as truth, because it's impossible | 11:59 |
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| cluckj | I'm not sure of the value of porting that into the practice of talking to, or trying to cooperate with, people on an everyday basis | 12:01 |
| kanzure | sounds like you're talking with the wrong people :-) | 12:14 |
| cluckj | oh? | 12:15 |
| kanzure | hehe | 12:17 |
| kanzure | (bbl) | 12:17 |
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| kanzure | review of all star wars games from 1982-2008 (3h video) http://www.gametrailers.com/full-episodes/kwzpy7/gt-retrospectives-star-wars-retrospective--complete-collection | 13:49 |
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| kanzure | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KJUVJAUY8o | 13:58 |
| yoleaux | Pteromys: Interactive Design and Optimization of Free-formed Free-flight Model Airplanes - YouTube | 13:58 |
| kanzure | http://www.nobuyuki-umetani.com/GliderDesign/2014_siggraph_GliderDesign.pdf | 14:00 |
| kanzure | http://www.nobuyuki-umetani.com/GliderDesign/2014_siggraph_GliderDesign.html | 14:00 |
| kanzure | "This paper introduces novel interactive techniques for designing original hand-launched free-flight glider airplanes which can actually fly. The aerodynamic properties of a glider aircraft depend on their shape, imposing significant design constraints. We present a compact and efficient representation of glider aerodynamics that can be fit to real-world conditions using a data-driven method. To do so, we acquire a sample set of glider ... | 14:01 |
| kanzure | ... flight trajectories using a video camera and the system learns a nonlinear relationship between forces on the wing and wing shape. Our acquisition system is much simpler to construct than a wind tunnel, but using it we can efficiently discover a wing model for simple gliding aircraft. Our resulting model can handle general free-form wing shapes and yet agrees sufficiently well with the acquired airplane flight trajectories. Based on ... | 14:01 |
| kanzure | ... this compact aerodynamics model, we present a design tool in which the wing configuration created by a user is interactively optimized to maximize flight-ability. To demonstrate the effectiveness of our tool for glider design by novice users, we compare it with a traditional design workflow." | 14:01 |
| kanzure | "Instead of expensive fluid dynamics simulation, Pteromys utilizes a simpler but much faster approach called "wing theory"." | 14:02 |
| kanzure | "Our approach tries to apply wing theory for free-formed airplane. To acquire parameter necessary for this application, we use machine learning techniques in the preparation stage." | 14:02 |
| kanzure | wonder if they did symbolic regression to pull out some equations for this | 14:02 |
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| kanzure | someone is doing 70 nm slices of brain tissue for ~150 donated brains that had iq tested in 1930s and 1940s https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22830450-400-my-brain-collection-could-help-us-all-thrive-in-old-age/ | 14:15 |
| kanzure | (er, the brains aged in the mean time) | 14:15 |
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| QuadIngi | interesting for BCI: http://blog.jfrey.info/2015/02/04/openbci-p300-coadapt/ | 14:55 |
| kanzure | are we still talking about brachiosaurus-computer interfaces? | 14:56 |
| QuadIngi | This overlaps substantially with what I wanted to do, I'll have to contact him and improve on it with increased simplicity of setup, and better usability features | 14:56 |
| QuadIngi | kanzure, I'm interested because I hate fondleslabs | 14:56 |
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| kanzure | haven't been impressed by eeg | 15:01 |
| kanzure | i also haven't seen theoretical speculation about limits of eeg, or at least any limits that look interesting | 15:01 |
| kanzure | but i haven't looked in a while. maybe people are getting more than a few bits/minute out of people's heads with eeg. | 15:02 |
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| kanzure | essentially this hangout is a feed where internet people watch mit people eating food talking about papers. whatever. | 15:20 |
| kanzure | in 6 | 15:26 |
| kanzure | fijoiewqjq | 15:26 |
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| kanzure | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grasshopper_3D | 15:49 |
| kanzure | (from the opennurbs rhino people) (but really brlcad's use of opennurbs is more useful at this point) | 15:53 |
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