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| ButaTine | kanzure, you around? | 06:58 |
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| kanzure | sup | 07:22 |
| ButaTine | I pmed you. | 07:22 |
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| Aurelius_Laptop | kanzure : sup | 07:26 |
| kanzure | Aurelius_Laptop: about to read all hplusroadmap logs. trying to figure out how i want to process the data. signal-noise scores, tags, tag weights, hyperlink anchors into the logs, etc. | 07:28 |
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| Aurelius_Laptop | Hm. Could you add a heat indicator type of thing? | 07:29 |
| kanzure | i mean i am manually reading everything | 07:29 |
| kanzure | so if you want "heat indicators" to be part of the output, i would need to be told how to score "heat" | 07:30 |
| Aurelius_Laptop | I mean would it be possible to represent signal/noise score with a colored bar along the left/right side so when you re-skim you can rely on color perception instead of text reading? | 07:31 |
| kanzure | yes, but with tagged conversations you wouldn't want to-- you would instead prefer to ust read everything tagged with "biotech" and "micropropulsion" or something. | 07:33 |
| kanzure | *just read | 07:33 |
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| nsh | hmm | 07:45 |
| nsh | so | 07:45 |
| nsh | in my head this would play a bit like guitar hero or something, except instead of notes you have a bunch of buttons for tags and intereferencing/anchoring | 07:46 |
| nsh | if you are able to vary the speed the text goes past in, that gives a constant rough proxy for infodensity | 07:47 |
| nsh | -in | 07:47 |
| nsh | *continuous | 07:47 |
| kanzure | i was thinking something like mouse highlight multiple lines of text, then write down tags like neuroscience-0.01 for 0.01 out of 1 weight for relevance to neuroscience | 07:47 |
| kanzure | (the existenceo f multiple tags assigned to an excerpt is not as useful as knowing the relative proportions of which tags are related) | 07:48 |
| nsh | well | 07:48 |
| nsh | numbers are hard to concoct consistently | 07:48 |
| nsh | maybe if you select text, then input a list of tags, then have a star drawn and point to the centre of mass wrt to the tag points | 07:49 |
| nsh | that way you can visually almost instantly give the relative weightings | 07:49 |
| kanzure | well the weight is more like signal-to-noise for that particular tag | 07:49 |
| * nsh nods | 07:49 | |
| kanzure | i think i am doing this backwards | 07:49 |
| kanzure | desired results: query hplusroadmap logs and get back super interesting things on a variety of topics | 07:50 |
| kanzure | er, in particular, restricted to the thing you queried for | 07:50 |
| kanzure | this data should be based on my manual anonotation | 07:50 |
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| kanzure | actually, other than querying, i would also be okay with just dumped output that sorts and identifies higher quality stuffs, like some sort of map | 07:51 |
| kanzure | so i have vague notion that tags and tag scoring is somehow useful here but not sure how | 07:52 |
| nsh | the question is what is the most meaningful data you can add as you sweep the corpus linearly with a tolerable overhead | 07:52 |
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| nsh | and do you need to generate any ancillary structures as you progress | 07:53 |
| kanzure | random example: all the "yashgaroth comments on dna synthesis enzyme plans" stuff is quite hard to find at the moment | 07:53 |
| nsh | e.g. a conceptual graph | 07:53 |
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| nsh | if so you need to have some reasonable consistent heuristic for what qualifies as a notable concept that can be linked to | 07:54 |
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| nsh | at the least you will have some set of tags | 07:54 |
| nsh | and coreferences | 07:54 |
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| Aurelius_Laptop | Hmm | 08:18 |
| Aurelius_Laptop | this isn't the hardest project, but it's still teaching me | 08:18 |
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| kanzure | Aurelius_Laptop: ? | 08:42 |
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| JayDugger | Kanzure, you work from the logs at http://gnusha.org/logs, yes? | 09:19 |
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| Aurelius_Laptop | sorry for connect/disconnect spam | 09:37 |
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| kanzure | JayDugger: what about? | 10:36 |
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| JayDugger | kanzure, this morning's "desired results: query hplusroadmap logs and get back super interesting things on a variety of topics" | 11:32 |
| kanzure | i still don't understand your question | 11:57 |
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| fenn | tags and tag scoring is useful for training your machine learning classifier that does the actual bulk of the work | 13:32 |
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| FourFire | kanzure, Anders Sandberg's talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-BUNT-gntY&feature=youtu.be&t=5s | 13:59 |
| FourFire | sorry I forgot to get it earlier. | 14:00 |
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| kanzure | fenn: go for it | 14:29 |
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| kanzure | http://www.cyberdyne.jp/company/download/20151113_financialresultssummary1.pdf | 22:33 |
| kanzure | where's that machine learner | 22:37 |
| justanotheruser | is there some large public chemical reaction database that has the chemical reactions formatted for easy parsing? | 22:39 |
| kanzure | nope. all of those are private. | 22:41 |
| kanzure | there's some smaller organic reaction mechanism "databases" that are public, but they are really really super tiny in comparison. | 22:41 |
| justanotheruser | jerks | 22:41 |
| kanzure | yup | 22:41 |
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