2016-01-29.log

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archels_According to Cohen (2004), biological science asks03:24
archels_six kinds of questions about domains ranging from03:24
archels_molecules and cells, up to the biosphere:03:24
archels_1. How is it built? (Structures)03:24
archels_2. How does it work? (Mechanisms)03:24
archels_3. What is it for? (Functions)03:24
archels_4. What goes wrong? (Pathologies)03:24
archels_5. How is it fixed? (Repairs)03:24
archels_6. How did it begin? (Origins)03:24
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JayDuggerBut not What is it good for? (I guess that's agriculture.)04:16
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@kanzurearchels: they forgot "how do i control it?" and "how do i eat it?"04:56
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fenndalrymple's tube transport patent cites a patent by gerard o'neill. it's a small world09:50
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fenno'neill was into magnetic levitation09:52
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@kanzurewell the o'neill citation is less surprising, i think everyone is expected to know him by now, after all he had an entire cylinder named after him.09:55
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cluckjit's a big cylinder too09:56
@kanzurejust wait until you hear who gets the hexagram09:57
fennhuh, apparently o'neill invented the particle storage ring (used in particle accelerators)09:57
docldyson got the sphere... from stapledon09:59
fennit's spelled hexagraham after prophet graham10:00
fenn"Hex, Bugs, Rock & Roll"10:07
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xentracdocl: did he actually read Stapledon or did he invent it independently?11:09
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fenni never heard about this happening: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_satellite_collision11:40
doclxentrac: Dyson credits Stapledon, according to wikipedia (broken source link though) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olaf_Stapledon11:40
fenniridium satellite and defunct soviet military satellite collision11:40
fennrussian, not soviet11:43
xentracI didn't realize11:43
fenn"burning debris and fireballs were seen falling from the sky onto parts of Austin, Houston, Waco and San Antonio."  huh there were literally pieces raining down over me at the time11:46
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fennhum well apparently it was actually a bolide meteor, not satellite debris12:07
fenna lot of people thought it was an aircraft that had caught fire and exploded12:09
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@kanzurehttp://galtse.cx/20:31
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@kanzurehmph21:52
nmz787?22:07
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JayDuggerxentrac, Stapledon in turn credits Haldane.23:30
JayDuggerkanzure, I think agriculture subsumes "How do I control it," at least on the macro level, and cooking would cover "How do I eat it?"23:31
@kanzuresimilarly, "who in their right mind would eat it?"23:31
JayDuggerThat's easy. The same kind of people who discover any new food: the desperate and hungry, mostly. Lately, the bored and jaded.23:33
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