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| archels | hm wow so a trip to the Andromeda Galaxy would only take 60 years of subjective time in a constant-1G-accelerating spacecraft? | 01:38 |
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| archels | http://www.daviddarling.info/encyclopedia/O/one-g_spacecraft.html | 01:38 |
| archels | .g international luddite award | 01:41 |
| Urchin | archels: yeah, just compress the universe to get there | 01:44 |
| archels | that's an incredible compression of time | 01:48 |
| archels | aha, the Luddite award comes from "The Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF)" | 01:49 |
| archels | "a U.S. non-profit public policy think tank based out of Washington, D.C." | 01:49 |
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| aanayy3 | What do you think is their motive for the luddite awards? | 02:01 |
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| archels | PR? good question | 02:06 |
| archels | probably politics one way or the other | 02:06 |
| Urchin | is it like an idiot of the year award? | 02:09 |
| aanayy3 | On the surface it seems that they care about accelerating transhumany things, and use the awards to this end. Do you buy that? What ulterior motives could they have, I wonder. | 02:09 |
| Urchin | supporting transhumany things? | 02:13 |
| fenn | "professor moriarty" ignored some good advice from "zanthia" | 02:14 |
| fenn | too bad | 02:14 |
| fenn | the insults really do detract from the arguments and make the author look weak | 02:15 |
| aanayy3 | So you think the same piece without the insults would be a stronger argument? | 02:19 |
| fenn | it would have to be entirely reworked, as every sentence is dripping with ad-hominen attacks and strongly loaded language | 02:20 |
| aanayy3 | It would be very easy to strip out the insults. | 02:20 |
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| aanayy3 | I'm guessing that the author made a conscious decision to include the insults, knowing full well the effect they would have on some readers. | 02:23 |
| fenn | it makes it seem like they don't care enough to write a decent essay | 02:24 |
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| aanayy3 | To me it seems like they care a lot about attacking Eliezer thoroughly. | 02:25 |
| fenn | meh | 02:26 |
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| aanayy3 | note that it's not *just* ad hominem. | 02:27 |
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| pompolic | that ozkural dude seems angry | 04:23 |
| pompolic | no, that's not right | 04:24 |
| pompolic | anger is not what i mean | 04:24 |
| pompolic | "seems motivated to throw out a lot of ad hominem" | 04:24 |
| pompolic | ... like what anayy3 just said, oops | 04:25 |
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| jrayhawk | conspiratorial, disproportionate, overconfident, and handwavy | 04:50 |
| jrayhawk | i am sure there were nuclear physicists who considered safety advocacy the work of luddites, too | 04:51 |
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| jrayhawk | what nuclear power can do is a triviality in comparison to AI can do | 05:18 |
| jrayhawk | MIRI being somewhere between "Pascal's Mugging" and "inauspicious Schelling point for safety research and advocacy" seems like worthy criticism; denying safety concerns by claiming everyone who has them is enthralled by Eliezer is not | 05:22 |
| Jawmare | jrayhawk, the amount of red tape in nuclear reactors are huge | 05:22 |
| Jawmare | also nuclear physics is a dead field | 05:24 |
| chris_99 | how do you figure that | 05:24 |
| archels | oh, there's an Allen Institute for AI now as well? cool | 05:26 |
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| kanzure | http://pcr.tori.st/index.php/Main_Page. | 06:25 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/hisashin/NinjaPCR | 06:25 |
| kanzure | (openpcr fork) | 06:25 |
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| nmz787_i | Jawmare: nuclear physics dead with wendelstein 7-X just having fired up? | 08:37 |
| nmz787_i | abetusk: working on a model (and framework) that would look something like one of the images here: http://web.stanford.edu/group/foundry/images/Microfluidic_valve_technology_clip_image010.jpg | 08:38 |
| nmz787_i | the framework part of that is having the ability to say "connect some other thing I have, lets say a tube, connect end 'A' of the tube to the valve pressure input port" and have the CAD model update things so my tube opening is now centered flush with the end of the valve component | 08:40 |
| nmz787_i | the idea is once I have some primitive parts, I can just snap them together like legos | 08:40 |
| xentrac_ | with like tiny robot arms? | 08:41 |
| nmz787_i | and have the system warn me if tube end 'A' is larger or smaller than the inlet on the valve | 08:41 |
| nmz787_i | nah in CAD | 08:41 |
| xentrac_ | ah | 08:41 |
| nmz787_i | I am actually also trying to export such 3D models into g-code... or some other CAM format | 08:42 |
| nmz787_i | for fabrication with lithography related processes, or potentially FIB ablation/deposition | 08:42 |
| nmz787_i | with lithography I know there are a bunch of optimizations you can do, especially as your feature size goes down | 08:43 |
| nmz787_i | I don't think I will be able to get into sub-wavelength mask generation though, unless there is a big chunk of open-source code somewhere (supplementary materials of some CS graphics journal maybe?) | 08:44 |
| nmz787_i | siggraph or something maybe | 08:45 |
| heath | sweet, found a place not too far from artisan's asylum | 08:47 |
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| kanzure | "The Brain Preservation Foundation (BPF) announced that the Small Mammal Brain Preservation Prize has officially been won. The spectacular result achieved by 21st Century Medicine researchers provides the first demonstration that near-perfect, long-term structural preservation of an intact mammalian brain is achievable..." | 09:21 |
| kanzure | http://www.brainpreservation.org/small-mammal-announcement | 09:21 |
| kanzure | http://www.brainpreservation.org/asc_rabbit_fulleval/ | 09:22 |
| kanzure | "A team from 21st Century Medicine, spearheaded by recent MIT graduate Robert McIntyre, has discovered a way to preserve the delicate neural circuits of an intact rabbit brain for extremely long-term storage using a combination of chemical fixation and cryogenic cooling. Proof of this accomplishment, and the full “Aldehyde Stabilized Cryopreservation” protocol, was recently published in the journal Cryobiology and has been ... | 09:22 |
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| kanzure | ... independently verified by the BPF through extensive electron microscopic examination. This answers a challenge issued to the scientific and cryonics communities five years ago by the BPF, and carries an award of $26,735." | 09:22 |
| kanzure | "Throughout the contest, the 21CM team was in a tight race with Max Planck researcher Shawn Mikula to be the first to meet the prize’s strict requirements. Although the prize will be awarded to 21CM, we wish to emphasize that a mouse brain entry submitted by Dr. Mikula also came extremely close to meeting the prize requirements. Dr. Mikula’s laboratory is attempting to perfect not only brain preservation (using a different method ... | 09:22 |
| kanzure | ... based on chemical fixation and plastic embedding) but whole brain electron microscopic imaging as well." | 09:22 |
| kanzure | "Focus now shifts to the final Large Mammal phase of the contest which requires an intact pig brain to be preserved with similar fidelity in a manner that could be directly adapted to terminal patients in a hospital setting. The 21st Century Medicine team has recently submitted to the BPF such a preserved pig brain for official evaluation. Lead researcher Robert McIntyre has started Nectome to further develop this method." | 09:23 |
| archels | neat | 09:25 |
| kanzure | i feel like this announcement should have also mentioned http://aurellem.org/vba-clojure/html/total-control.html | 09:26 |
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| cluckj | http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/02/the-research-pirates-of-the-dark-web/461829/ | 10:57 |
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| kanzure | http://www.brainpreservation.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/ReadMe_SummaryOfEvaluationFilesInThisDirectory.pdf | 11:25 |
| kanzure | FIB-SEM electron micrographs (2 GB) https://spaces.hightail.com/space/QOGUe | 11:25 |
| kanzure | "A movie (taken by KH) of the rabbit brain floating in fixative+CPA after being removed from skull, being put into a -135oC freezer storage unit." https://spaces.hightail.com/space/nG6KQ | 11:26 |
| kanzure | "A movie (taken by KH) of that same rabbit brain being taken out of the -135oC freezer unit after overnight storage. It is clearly visible that the brain has vitrified solid at this temperature." https://spaces.hightail.com/space/nG6KQ | 11:26 |
| chris_99 | anyone heard of these dyes before - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leuco_dye or have used them? | 11:48 |
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| chris_99 | nmz787, about per chance? | 14:36 |
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| nmz787_i | hi chris_99 | 16:11 |
| chris_99 | hey, can i ask you a really basic electronics question, to make sure i'm not going crazy | 16:12 |
| nmz787_i | chris_99: i've used some of those dyes, as far as I know only the simple ones which are actually listed on the wiki page (crystal violet, phenolphtalein) | 16:13 |
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| chris_99 | oh neat :) i found a place that sells them - http://www.hallcrest.com/our-products/research-development-testing/thermochromic-and-photochromic-test-kits | 16:13 |
| nmz787_i | i bet you could get either of the two I mentioned on ebay or amazon.com | 16:17 |
| chris_99 | ah neat, i'll investigate | 16:17 |
| chris_99 | i'm just looking @ http://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/tip41c/transistor-npn-to-220/dp/1574341 would i be right in thinking the resistor for the base would roughly be R = (3.3 - 2) / 30e-3 = 42 ohm (where 3.3V is the MCU pin output, 2 is the max value of Vbe(on), and hFE is ~30mA) | 16:19 |
| nmz787_i | hmm, well hFE is the amplification or current gain | 16:21 |
| nmz787_i | so if you feed in 1mA to the base, you will get 30mA through the collector | 16:21 |
| nmz787_i | so you need to figure out how much current you want to put into the base, such that the current out will equate to the voltage desired (so you'll need some resistor, or assume high-impedance if going into a GPIO) | 16:22 |
| chris_99 | ohh, so hFE is only the gain | 16:29 |
| chris_99 | should there not be somewhere on the datasheet a value for the minimum current needed, to switch 'on'? | 16:31 |
| nmz787_i | doesn't seem like, since the hFE is always present.. if you have 0 amps in, amps out will be 0 * 30 | 16:37 |
| nmz787_i | so if you put in 1mA, you should get 30mA out... at whatever voltage is on the collector | 16:38 |
| chris_99 | ah i just found this which seems to explain how to calculate R, http://www.penguintutor.com/electronics/transistor-switch | 16:38 |
| nmz787_i | but your datasheet doesn't list a minimum base current | 16:42 |
| fenn | "Perfusate used by cryonics companies could have red food coloring in it. It's just a nice touch so that the cryonics patient looks more life-like than with clear CPAs, and hopefully might get treated with more respect." | 16:44 |
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| chris_99 | nmz787_i, it looks like the only variable i'm missing for their formulae is Vb, which unless i'm mistaken it doesn't seem to explain what that is? | 16:45 |
| nmz787_i | hmm, I would look for another HOWTO/tutorial | 16:49 |
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| chris_99 | i'm looking at http://www.electronicsclub.info/transistorcircuits.htm . Do you think this seems right: Rb = (Vc * hFE) / (5 * Ic) = ((3.3 * 30) / (5 * (12/0.2)) = 0.33 ohm (my load resistance is 0.2 ohm, with a voltage of 12V across) | 17:17 |
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| docl_ | http://aurellem.org/ASC/html/ASC-FAQ.html | 17:21 |
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| docl_ | .title | 17:25 |
| yoleaux | Aldehyde-Stabilized Cryopreservation FAQ | 17:25 |
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| abetusk | nmz787_i, sounds interesting. If you haven't already, you might want to take a look at clipperlib for 2d polygon intersections. I use it a lot in MeowCAD. http://www.angusj.com/delphi/clipper.php | 17:33 |
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| kanzure | "Aldehyde-stabilized cryopreservation" http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S001122401500245X | 18:53 |
| kanzure | http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/cryonics/Aldehyde-stabilized%20cryopreservation.pdf | 18:53 |
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| kanzure | "Victor Vargas and Limdo Chow also helped construct the pig perfusion machine." | 18:54 |
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| docl_ | for reference: http://gnusha.org/logs/2015-12-16.log | 18:55 |
| kanzure | thank you | 18:55 |
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| nmz787_i | .tell chris_99 Vc would seem to be Voltage-at-collector, which would be 12, not 3.3 | 22:35 |
| yoleaux | nmz787_i: I'll pass your message to chris_99. | 22:35 |
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