2016-03-28.log

--- Log opened Mon Mar 28 00:00:12 2016
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kanzurehttp://www.anl.gov/articles/adventures-first-neuroscientist-argonne07:33
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kanzure"It's because of this that Kasthuri is also interested in the Advanced Photon Source (APS) , a giant, powerful X-ray synchrotron on Argonne's campus. [...] We're testing at the APS, and we think it will let us map the entire brain without having to cut it or slice it or deform it — and to possibly do it very fast. At intensities low enough not to damage the sample, the resolution provided by the APS is not quite as good as an electron ...07:35
kanzure... microscope."07:35
kanzure"Intersection of neuroscience and deep learning" russell hanson 2016-02-24 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIv5Bva_H1E07:37
kanzurethat is a good video07:37
kanzurescientific speedup from adding one additional researcher http://aleph.se/andart2/math/adding-cooks-to-the-broth/07:39
kanzure"Energetics of the brain and AI" anders sandberg 2016-02-12 http://arxiv.org/abs/1602.0401907:40
kanzure"Does the energy requirements for the human brain give energy constraints that give reason to doubt the feasibility of artificial intelligence? This report will review some relevant estimates of brain bioenergetics and analyze some of the methods of estimating brain emulation energy requirements. Turning to AI, there are reasons to believe the energy requirements for de novo AI to have little correlation with brain (emulation) energy ...07:40
kanzure... requirements since cost could depend merely of the cost of processing higher-level representations rather than billions of neural firings. Unless one thinks the human way of thinking is the most optimal or most easily implementable way of achieving software intelligence, we should expect de novo AI to make use of different, potentially very compressed and fast, processes."07:40
thundaraIs that similar to the Berkeley ALS's X-ray tomography stuff?07:41
thundara(i.e. http://www.cell.com/trends/cell-biology/pdf/S0962-8924(09)00184-6.pdf )07:41
kanzure"KIC 8462852 Faded at an Average Rate of 0.165+-0.013 Magnitudes Per Century From 1890 To 1989" http://arxiv.org/abs/1601.0325607:42
kanzurethundara: your link is broken07:42
thundarahttp://www.cell.com/trends/cell-biology/fulltext/S0962-8924(09)00184-6 This work?07:43
kanzurenevermind07:43
kanzure"Soft X-ray tomography and cryogenic light microscopy: the cool combination in cellular imaging"07:43
kanzure"Did amphetamines help Erdős? I do a bit of stats to check: the answer is maybe." http://aleph.se/andart2/math/did-amphetamines-help-erdos/07:48
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kanzure"Putting out the dark fire: constraining speculative physics disasters" http://mflb.com/pub/lsag_1/DarkFire_3.pdf08:37
kanzure"Various speculative physics disaster scenarios have been proposed, but most can be defeated by the observable lack of large-scale disasters they predict. However, this paper introduces the "dark fire scenario" where baryonic matter is autocatalytically converted into dark matter. If this could happen, the resulting disasters would be quiet and hard to observe. Ruling out dark fire is challenging, although arguments based on charge ...08:38
kanzure... neutralization and astronomical imprints from early eras appears to do a good job. More generally, the slipperiness of many physics scenarios pose interesting epistemic problems for risk analysis."08:38
kanzure"Cryopreservation of embryos and fetuses as a future option for family planning purposes" http://jetpress.org/v25.1/minerva.htm08:46
kanzure"Human connectome mapping and monitoring using neuronanorobots" http://jetpress.org/v26.1/martins.htm08:50
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nmz787_i1sup09:33
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nmz787_igot a DSO nano v3 this weekend, battery powered and cheaper than my better oscilloscope so I can test power supplies and high voltage stuff with greater comfort that I won't make a horrible mistake12:09
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archelsyeh I keep an old analogue scope around for that reason13:31
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abetuskIs it possible to do microfluidics with just an off the shelf laser cutter and acrylic?15:41
kanzureyes but it depends on which laser cutter. some of them have a spot size too large. you could do minifluidics, i guess.15:48
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/microfluidics/15:48
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abetuskweren't you trying for some type of laser cutter and microfluidics system?15:50
kanzurewasn't off-the-shelf15:56
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abetuskyou were trying to etch direction or etch something to use as a mold for the pdms/pmma?16:10
kanzurewasn't a mold16:10
nmz787_iabetusk: I ended up with a $100 dollar grbl/arduino 405nm laser etcher, but haven't used it to expose photoresist yet16:20
nmz787_iabetusk: also using a bluray writer optical head is the way to go16:20
nmz787_iabetusk: check this out http://www.diyouware.com/DiyoPCB-MKI16:21
nmz787_ithey sell kits16:21
nmz787_ithey said for PCBs the spot size was TOO small!16:21
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FourFireI've probably asked this before, but why exactly is grindhouse wetware terrible, community wise?18:41
nmz787_ithe didn't do research or something, ended up embedding magnets that rotted flesh I think, even though biocompatible coatings for implants have been known for decades18:57
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abetusknmz787_i, nice site, thanks.  You're not making PCBs with it?  You're trying for microfluidics?19:12
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