2016-04-28.log

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gnushahttps://secure.diyhpl.us/cgit/diyhpluswiki/commit/?id=05b73fe3 herberenice:  >> http://diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/articles/00:55
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kanzurejrayhawk: that was a spammer^... do we need to disable user registration? :\05:44
kanzureargh wtf why is force-push disabled05:44
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nmz787_ifeeling pushy with git today, eh kanzure09:37
kanzuredon't want a spammer09:37
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nmz787_i;)10:15
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nmz787_isup14:02
jrayhawkkanzure: force push is disabled because Ikiwiki has an independent checkout that it would merge into anyway.14:06
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kanzurejrayhawk: can we fix the spammer's stuff14:09
jrayhawkYeah, I'm just trying to work out if it got past Google's captcha stuff.14:10
jrayhawkLooks like it did.14:13
nmz787_ihmm, these seem like hackerspaces... but they're not listed on hackerspaces.org (https://www.fablabs.io/labs)14:14
nmz787_ithere should be a captcha based on simpsons episode quotes or context of scenes or something14:15
jrayhawkAnyway, the idiot-proof procedure is:14:18
jrayhawkpinyconfig diyhpl.us piny.ikiwiki false14:18
jrayhawkpinyconfig diyhpl.us receive.denynonfastforwards false14:18
jrayhawk# push14:18
jrayhawkpinyconfig diyhpl.us receive.denynonfastforwards true14:18
jrayhawkpinyconfig diyhpl.us piny.ikiwiki true14:18
kanzurehaha14:19
kanzurehahah14:19
kanzureyeah you're doing that, not me14:19
kanzureyou can wonder about the meaning of your life while you execute those commands14:20
kanzurejust force-push the last non-spammed commit14:20
jrayhawker, s/diyhpl.us/diyhplus/14:22
jrayhawker, s/diyhpl.us/diyhpluswiki/14:22
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kanzure.title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1159113014:26
yoleauxType III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist | Hacker News14:26
kanzure.title http://arxiv.org/abs/1604.0784414:26
yoleaux[1604.07844] Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist14:26
jrayhawkwas getting the repository name wrong what you were getting all passive-aggressive about, or am i missing something14:28
kanzurei was asking you to force-push the thing before the spammer :)14:29
jrayhawkwell, okay, all that's done14:29
kanzurewasn't being passive aggressive, was genuine laughter about the absuridty of many steps to fix this14:29
kanzurethank you14:29
kanzurebut for future reference yes i'll just turn force-push back on14:30
jrayhawknot that absurd; we worked hard to make immutability a front-and-center feature14:30
kanzurehow does this work if you have an active attacker trying to force-push even more spam?14:30
jrayhawk14:06 < jrayhawk> kanzure: force push is disabled because Ikiwiki has an independent checkout that it would merge into anyway.14:30
jrayhawkso the answer is "approximately the same"14:31
kanzurei guess the answer is "figure out their username and ban them first"14:31
kanzurebut they could also be rapidly registering14:31
kanzureis there a pinyconfig stopthenewbiesplzkthx true/false?14:31
kanzureto prevent registration14:31
jrayhawkwe can just switch over to exclusive ssh registration if it continues to be a problem14:32
kanzureoh i thought we already did?14:32
kanzurewe changed something previously because spammers14:32
jrayhawkbriefly; then i added recaptcha14:32
kanzurethanks14:34
jrayhawkor a moderator queue of new accounts14:35
jrayhawkwhich is more or less how fd.o works14:35
kanzurei am also okay with people just asking for accounts, we don't seem to attract the type of user that wont contribute if they have to speak with us14:35
kanzureor frankly anyone14:36
jrayhawkhee14:36
kanzurehonestly i am not even sure why any of you put up with my antics14:36
c0rw1nentertainment value ?14:41
jrayhawkI also ran usermod -L herberenice14:48
kanzurecould we just remove them14:49
kanzurepossibly with rmmuserremover14:50
jrayhawkProbably okay in this case, but not good practice in general. Has the potential for leaving dangling permissions.14:50
maakukanzure we have thick skin14:53
xentrac_maaku: not everyone has thick skin14:54
maakuxentrac_: unfortunately we probably are not an inviting environment for them14:56
kanzureyou mean not everyone wants to be burned alive?14:57
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xentrac_maaku: it varies15:03
maakuI think me of 5-10 years ago would have been pushed away.15:06
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maakuNot sure if that is good or bad.15:07
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nmz787_ikanzure: getting a tesla model 315:13
nmz787_i?15:13
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kanzurenmz787_i: nah just dropping off my car16:06
kanzurewait what? i didn't say anything about that.16:06
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kanzurebloort16:23
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c0rw1nbleert16:28
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kanzurehttps://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/what-is-gitian-building-how-bitcoin-s-security-processes-became-a-model-for-the-open-source-community-146186293717:15
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abetuskhttp://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.07844v1.pdf20:01
abetusk.title http://arxiv.org/pdf/1604.07844v1.pdf20:01
yoleauxabetusk: Sorry, that doesn't appear to be an HTML page.20:01
abetusk.title http://arxiv.org/abs/1604.0784420:02
yoleaux[1604.07844] Type III Societies (Apparently) Do Not Exist20:02
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nmz787kanzure: was just asking if you're gonna go for it, in general22:23
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maakui would have nowhere to plug it in...22:41
maakui would have said it's too expensive, except tesla cars have been appreciating in value, not depreciating22:42
drethelinmight be different for the model 322:46
drethelinwhich will be the most cheaply made and have the biggest production run22:47
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maakuI imagine the early runs will retain collector value23:00
maakubut there's 130k preorders already23:00
nmz787drethelin: cheap as in price or quality?23:03
nmz787i mean , yeah cheaper in price for sure23:03
nmz787I have been getting sick of my VW jetta smoking on startup recently, it stinks and is more embarrasing than anything, at parking lots or around others in general. I have been looking into injector and fuel pump work...  but actually just got B99 a few days ago and the smoke smells fine23:04
nmz787(B99 biodiesel)23:04
nmz787but it would be pretty sweet to get a new car, period, and especially a what seems to be pretty sweet/fun newage-electric car23:05
nmz787the diesel can be EMP-proofed with a TDI300 fuel pump though... the tesla would be screwed23:06
nmz787though I can't recall any EMP blasts in my life23:06
JayDuggerEMP a serious concern for you?23:24
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nmz787seems like a reasonable weakpoint for nefarious actors to target23:39
nmz787sugar in the old diesel tank might do it to it though, too23:39
nmz787JayDugger: also solar flares23:39
JayDuggerI agree on both points--all three points.23:39
nmz787that is probably more concerning than some kind of bad person23:39
JayDuggerYou might get better peace of mind return on your efforts if you kept a three-day supply of potable water.23:40
nmz787it is a very perplexing problem for me...23:40
JayDuggerIf you've already done basic things such as that, kudos!23:40
nmz787well, I know some people up the street with a well23:40
nmz787and I have a water filter for camping that also takes out chemicals and viruses23:41
nmz787i probably have two gallons around here23:41
JayDuggerRemember to count your toliet tanks.23:41
nmz787ah23:41
JayDuggerAnd possibly the hot water heater.23:41
nmz787i was actually reading about drilling your own well last month23:41
nmz787i've got ground water at like 16 ft23:42
JayDuggerPast my area of expertise, I'm afraid.23:42
nmz787which would need filtered... but is otherwise fine for gardening/landscaping23:42
JayDuggerThat's an advantage.23:42
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