2016-05-18.log

--- Log opened Wed May 18 00:00:17 2016
archels_"When will that happen? Two years ago."00:31
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maakuQuashie CI does amateur hour suspensions, and they are criminally negligent with respect to having sufficient patient care funds00:46
maakuOh and they will roll over and comply with any legal challenge, rather washing their hands of a body than fight00:46
maakuIt is a case of "you get what you pay for"00:47
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kanzurebloop04:39
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kanzure.title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1171904704:51
yoleauxSSRN sold to Elsevier | Hacker News04:51
kanzure.title https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1171954304:52
yoleauxAcademics Make Theoretical Breakthrough in Random Number Generation | Hacker News04:52
kanzure"[ Some of you will by now wonder why I do not say we should expect an uncertainty of p running over loads of orders of magnitude, like the life probability does in our paper. The reason is that there is a curious asymmetry between reasons intelligent life may not emerge and reasons intelligent life may be quiet. The first group is largely conjunctive: "intelligence will happen if X and Y and Z and W and... happens" - if one of the ...04:56
kanzure... conditions in the chain is missing, there is no intelligence. Explanations for silence have the form "X or Y or Z or W or ...". If one of them is wrong, nothing happens to the outcome. But their probabilities need to sum to nearly exactly 1, and if one of them actually has less probability than needed then the entire explanation breaks. ]"04:56
kanzure"The thing is, people tend to assume that if you see one instance of something out of N objects, the probability of it happening should be about 1/N. But this misses the observer selection effect: if you have an absurdly low probability but it has to happen somewhere (because it results in you), then the relevant class may be far larger than N. So if the technogenesis probability is 10^-1000 there will still be lots of observers in an ...04:56
kanzure... infinite or very large universe, but they will all be very distant."04:56
c0rw1ni'm very happy to see maths expliciting a little formally what has intuitively seemed completely blindingly obvious to me for years.04:58
kanzureyes i am glad that people are paying attention to selection effects04:59
kanzurehttp://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/ai/How%20hard%20is%20artificial%20intelligence%3f%20Evolutionary%20arguments%20and%20selection%20effects%20-%20Shulman%20-%20Bostrom.pdf05:00
kanzureselection is probably one of the few ways we know of to exert really big pressures on systems to do things we don't know how to specify upfront05:00
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archels_solving the Drake equation paradox?05:22
c0rw1nwhat paradox ? the original drake eq is missing a ton of terms and the fractions in it have always been estimated way too high, is all.  Moreover, it doesn't take rates of expansions into account. Lightcones _have to cross_ to detect anything05:27
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JayDuggerThank you for the answer, kanzure.06:29
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nsh-.title http://www.sciencealert.com/physicists-just-discovered-a-new-form-of-light09:30
yoleauxPhysicists just discovered a totally new form of light - ScienceAlert09:30
mz_o__lul wut?09:32
nsh-divergence from expected behaviour wrt angular momentum09:45
nsh-.title http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/2/4/e1501748.full09:45
yoleauxThere are many ways to spin a photon: Half-quantization of a total optical angular momentum | Science Advances09:45
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kanzurehm.10:39
gwillennsh-: The sciencemag article is really interesting. I think the sciencealert article seems confused.10:42
gwillenI've never actually understood what the orbital angular momentum of a beam of light means, though10:43
gwillenso it's hard for me to follow further developments with it.10:43
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nsh-likewise :)11:07
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kanzurehttp://www.cs.columbia.edu/cg/surfaceliquids/ "We propose a novel surface-only technique for simulating incompressible, inviscid and uniform-density liquids with surface tension in three dimensions. The liquid surface is captured by a triangle mesh on which a Lagrangian velocity field is stored. Because advection of the velocity field may violate the incompressibility condition, we devise an orthogonal projection technique to remove the ...11:17
kanzure... divergence while requiring the evaluation of only two boundary integrals. The forces of surface tension, gravity, and solid contact are all treated by a boundary element solve, allowing us to perform detailed simulations of a wide range of liquid phenomena, including waterbells, droplet and jet collisions, fluid chains, and crown splashes."11:17
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archels_.title https://imgur.com/XGG26Us11:27
yoleaux"An apple with a spatial grid inserted" - Imgur11:27
archels_because science11:28
archels_aww they have photographs of Windows 3.1 on a CRT display in their paper too11:30
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anoncicadahttp://techcrunch.com/2016/05/18/space-exploration-will-spur-transhumanism-and-mitigate-existential-risk/20:26
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justanotheruserare these worth completing for educational purposes rosalind.info/problems/list-view/21:48
justanotheruserkanzure ^22:18
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