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| archels | nmz787: why GHz? any hints of something being out there? | 00:20 |
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| maaku | Has anyone worked on biocompatible MEMS robots? | 00:24 |
| xentrac_ | gumby did | 00:25 |
| xentrac_ | I hope that's not still a secret | 00:25 |
| maaku | gumby? | 00:25 |
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| xentrac_ | are you a Hackers ttendee? | 00:57 |
| maaku | Hackers? I suppose not. | 01:33 |
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| streety | xentrac_: FourFire I think there is some confusion here on how liquid oxygen and liquid nitrogen is produced. 1) Oxygen condenses first, not nitrogen. If you have a dewar of nitrogen exposed to the atmosphere and allow all the liquid to evaporate towards the end the liquid will contain a significant percentage of oxygen that has been condensed from the atmosphere in the liquid nitrogen. 2) Oxygen and nitrogen can be generated separate | 06:18 |
| kanzure | maaku: mems things http://diyhpl.us/~bryan/papers2/mems/ | 06:24 |
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| kanzure | who do we have in tokyo | 06:55 |
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| maaku | kanzure: I'm thinking much of the nanomedicine can be weakly accomplished with targetted MEMS sensing and delivery. | 08:39 |
| maaku | and a bioMEMS company can probably be made profitable in short order -- with something like an in-the-blood glucose testing | 08:40 |
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| nmz787_i | archels: just because there will be so much signalling going on, I assume neural-firing-edges will be all over the place with respect to phase (I doubt the brain has a single/universal clock tick that things sync to).... plus with more time resolution, you can probably do some tomography/3D signal location determination (to later selectively filter signals based on location, i.e. the optic nerve/cortex) | 10:31 |
| nmz787_i | archels: also, this is 2016 and GHz test equipment can be had for sub-$1000 per channel... so why /hasn't/ an experiment been done even to disprove the theory. | 10:33 |
| nmz787_i | also, it seems there's absolutely no way I can do the shit I want, communicate the things I want, with EEG type bandwidth | 10:33 |
| nmz787_i | (for direct BCI stuff) | 10:34 |
| kanzure | .title http://www.tritechresearch.com/CG-2.html | 10:35 |
| yoleaux | CG-2: MammoZapper(R) Cloning Gun(R) Electroporation System - Tritech Research, Inc. | 10:35 |
| kanzure | "a cordless, rechargeable, hand-held electroporation instrument that achieves transfection efficiencies exceeding 50% of viable cells with a variety of standard mammalian cell lines" | 10:36 |
| kanzure | .title http://cibolo.us/pipermail/open_electroporator/2016-June/000067.html | 10:39 |
| yoleaux | [Open_electroporator] low cost bacterial non-salty electroporator proposal | 10:39 |
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| nmz787_i | yeah, like $2k I think for the unit | 11:08 |
| nmz787_i | but only $80 for 50 of the pipet-cuvette things | 11:09 |
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| nmz787_i | http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0134989 | 11:48 |
| nmz787_i | .title | 11:48 |
| yoleaux | PLOS ONE: Open-Source Photometric System for Enzymatic Nitrate Quantification | 11:48 |
| nmz787_i | https://github.com/NitrateEliminationCo/NECiOpenWater | 11:48 |
| nmz787_i | .title | 11:48 |
| yoleaux | GitHub - NitrateEliminationCo/NECiOpenWater: This is the open source software that can be used in conjunction with our Photometer. This version only works with the NECi Water Nitrate test kits. | 11:48 |
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| nmz787_i | huh, they didn't publish the schematics and layout files??? | 11:49 |
| nmz787_i | it seems to indicate they did "Data Availability: We have made all the data available in the paper and S1 Appendix including open hardware design CAD scripts and electronic layouts. In addition the source code for the software can be found here:https://github.com/NitrateEliminationCo/NECiOpenWater." | 11:49 |
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| FourFire | streety, the question is what would the cost per cryo patient for 50 years storage be if the number of patients exceeds current supplies of subsidized LN2, so that air had to be cooled specifically for Cryo purposes | 12:28 |
| FourFire | would that cost be more, or less, due to ecoomy of scale effects? | 12:28 |
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| kanzure | "subsidized LN2" ?? | 12:40 |
| chris_99 | i think i recall seeing some cool DIY machines to make LN2 | 12:42 |
| maaku | LN2 ain't subsidized to my knowledge. | 12:51 |
| FourFire | kanzure, LN2 that is a biproduct of something else wanted form air which is then sold off cheaply, we discussed this yesteray | 12:51 |
| maaku | The discussion yesterday was wrong. | 12:52 |
| maaku | See scrollback. | 12:52 |
| maaku | In any case that's efficient scale you would just move the refrigeration on the site instead of procuring gas. | 12:52 |
| maaku | *at sufficient scale | 12:52 |
| * FourFire is paranoid that apparent observed conitive decline isn't simply chronic stress and poorly implimented polyphasic sleep schedule but instead brain cancer | 12:52 | |
| maaku | Please don't do polyphasic sleep. I like you. | 12:53 |
| FourFire | no way for me to check without spending all my spare money this month, and If I have such a low theshold to check for this disease then my sopare funds are perpetually held hostage for any other disease of equal robability | 12:54 |
| FourFire | maaku, why do you say that? | 12:54 |
| FourFire | do most polyphasic people go crazy, or is it a socks with sandals thing? | 12:54 |
| kanzure | FourFire: your understanding of business is wrong | 12:58 |
| FourFire | I am aware: which is why I haven't founded a company thus far | 12:59 |
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| xentrac_ | streety: thank you for the corrections! I was indeed very confused | 13:26 |
| xentrac_ | I think IRC chopped off your line though: "2) Oxygen and nitrogen can be generated separate" | 13:27 |
| xentrac_ | FourFire: https://www.supermemo.com/en/articles/polyphasic2010 | 13:28 |
| FourFire | xentrac_, thanks for linking me that, fnnily enough wat initially promted me to try polyphasic this week was my housemate who seems to live on a 26 hour day and who seems to only be awake either while I'm at work, or while I | 13:42 |
| FourFire | sleep. | 13:42 |
| FourFire | I have to sleep now | 13:42 |
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| maaku | FourFire: good! get some sleep! | 14:19 |
| maaku | FourFire: the entire evidence in favor of polyphasic sleep (at least the microsleep a few minutes every few hours variety), is one dude's story on his blog | 14:20 |
| maaku | vs every sleep study ever that says "if you try this, you will go crazy and die" | 14:20 |
| xentrac_ | it turns out it wasn't a dude | 14:33 |
| xentrac_ | her name is Marie Staver: https://motherboard.vice.com/read/the-uberwomen-who-beat-sleep | 14:35 |
| xentrac_ | the article also talks a bit about sleep researchers | 14:38 |
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| ybit | https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yC_TgFqh9zeYqgYFmS0bARMPBI5A--5-njr5bZJ1huI/edit | 16:00 |
| ybit | Decentralized Web Summit Panel What could you do to Decentralize Scientific Journal Articles (with data and code)? | 16:01 |
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| maaku | trying hard not to do a middlebrow dismissal, but how is that a moonshot challenge? put it in git. mirror it. problems solved? | 16:39 |
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| ybit | heh, agreed | 16:52 |
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| streety | FourFire: there is no subsidized LN2 | 17:40 |
| streety | xentrac_: the rest was: 2) Oxygen and nitrogen can be generated separately, i.e. in a liquid nitrogen plant the liquid oxygen is generated only transiently and is boiled off to cool the stream of compressed nitrogen so that it can condense when it expands. | 17:40 |
| streety | beyond any efficiencies of scale the cost is going to be 50x the cost of the next year adjusting for expected changes in the cost of energy | 17:42 |
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| maaku | .title http://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=2756 | 17:48 |
| yoleaux | Shtetl-Optimized » Blog Archive » “Can computers become conscious?”: My reply to Roger Penrose | 17:48 |
| maaku | sorry that might violate the no-philosophy, but the article is about empirical distinctions | 17:48 |
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| kanzure | http://fortune.com/2016/05/07/bioquark-cleared-to-try-and-revive-dead-brains/ | 21:39 |
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| nmz787_i | https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2014/may/06/neil-harbisson-worlds-first-cyborg-artist | 23:01 |
| nmz787_i | .title | 23:01 |
| yoleaux | Neil Harbisson: the world's first cyborg artist | Culture | The Guardian | 23:01 |
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| nmz787_i | how would I best take an STL from thingiverse, and duplicate it many times into a larger STL, so I can print many of the same things at once on this 3D printer? | 23:23 |
| nmz787_i | blender? | 23:23 |
| fenn | yep | 23:44 |
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