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| fenn | .g ytong | 00:56 |
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| yoleaux | fenn: Sorry, that command (.g) crashed. | 00:56 |
| fenn | .wik ytong | 00:57 |
| yoleaux | "Autoclaved aerated concrete (AAC), also known as autoclaved cellular concrete (ACC), autoclaved lightweight concrete (ALC), autoclaved concrete, cellular concrete, porous concrete, Aircrete, Hebel Block, and Ytong is a lightweight, precast, Foam concrete building material invented in the mid-1920s that simultaneously provides structure, …" — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ytong | 00:57 |
| fenn | i'd imagine you could get oriented strand basalt by blowing a jet of basalt dust through a solar concentrator focal point | 00:57 |
| fenn | which seems a lot more useful than yet another aerated refractory block | 00:58 |
| fenn | well, not much of a refractory anyway | 00:58 |
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| fenn | now you can get foamed magnesium oxide and glass fiber sandwich insulation construction panels which just screw together and you have a wall | 01:04 |
| FourFire | > docl> I'm thinking it could rendezvous with a chunk of space junk, converting it into a larger propulsion system and power collector, then keep grabbing more and more chunks to bootstrap. | 01:12 |
| FourFire | I've thought about this and hae concluded that we need to make a land based seed factory first, then miniturize to prodce the prerequiste technology | 01:13 |
| FourFire | > <kanzure> it doesn't matter whta he calls them if he never figured out the details | 01:16 |
| FourFire | There's a guy at my hackespace working on automating input, work, output, storage of job, next input for shopbots, well he says he is, results remain to be seen. | 01:17 |
| FourFire | > <docl> something that has to function on earth over a long period of time seems to have different design constraints than space | 01:17 |
| FourFire | most of them less strict | 01:17 |
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| kanzure | shopbot doesn't count as a manufacturing process, really..... it's more like: find weird materials and find weird obscure manufacturing processes. | 05:05 |
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| kanzure | "HGP-write had its genesis last summer, according to Kelly Servick at Science, when futurist Andrew Hessel made what one scientist called “‘this impassioned speech’ for a new human genome project that would capture the public’s imagination and inspire the field around a single goal." | 07:21 |
| kanzure | ah it was his idea. figures. | 07:21 |
| kanzure | "From his new post at the MIT Media Lab, Esvelt says in the Nature post that he and others are launching “the Responsive Science Project to enable gene-drive scientists to share their plans and research with one another and with interested communities. We hope that it will become a central repository of ideas and information relevant to gene-drive research that will permit open assessment and critique before experiments begin.” | 07:22 |
| kanzure | " | 07:22 |
| kanzure | "The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation has given more than $40 million to a project planning to spread sterile mosquitoes in Africa by 2029." | 07:22 |
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| kanzure | "as well as sharing of CRISPR tools from over 80 labs through addgene.org" | 07:45 |
| kanzure | i wonder if venter or church would go for a "minimum brain" project. probably wouldn't be a human brain. | 07:58 |
| xentrac | fenn: neat, I didn't know about Ytong | 08:06 |
| xentrac | and yeah, if you could get basalt fiber to be cheap, that would be super useful | 08:07 |
| kanzure | with large-scale dna synthesis or genome synthesis, i don't think human genomes are an interesting target, but there's probably something you could do with molecular nanotechnology (proteins as lego) which would get you pretty far on lots of problems. | 08:14 |
| kanzure | over time you coud replace certain aspects of human genome with rationally-designed alternatives, or just excise it from the genome and use molecular nanotechnology as vitamin parts that get added to the goop. | 08:14 |
| kanzure | (fwiw i have lately been of the opinion that most healthcare problems like longevity aren't going to be solved biologically, it will be through uploading because nobody wants to maintain and fix all of the shit biology shit) | 08:15 |
| kanzure | so far i haven't figured out whether genome synthesis can particularly help brain uploading efforts, except that "hey you can make a million novel fluorescent markers and other signal reporters" which is certainly helpful but i'm not sure receptor scanning is sufficient. you can probably use lots of dna synthesis to create proteins that label and mark any sort of activity you want, and the proteins could stay around for minutes, hours or ... | 08:17 |
| kanzure | ... days, so there's lots of different activity in the brain that could be highlighted and then scanned immediately or later. | 08:18 |
| kanzure | iirc the bottleneck on neuronal molecular ticker tape (to record a log of all action potentials) was not protein engineering (was it?) | 08:18 |
| kanzure | re: replacing nondeterministic biology shit with rationally-designed alternatives, i guess the easiest metaphor for this would be an organelle enclosure with basic sensors and internal molecular machinery, analogous to the symbiosis with mitochondria | 08:29 |
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| kanzure | .title https://cibolo.us/pipermail/open_electroporator/2016-June/000095.html | 09:05 |
| yoleaux | [Open_electroporator] Culture Shock transformer tests | 09:05 |
| JayDugger | Good morning. | 09:09 |
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| mz_o__ | morning JayDugger | 09:19 |
| mz_o__ | rather good afternoon now | 09:19 |
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| delinquentme | kanzure: you have data that shows that you code more when you talk to ppl more right? | 09:45 |
| delinquentme | Does you have hypothesis on why true? | 09:45 |
| kanzure | my immense hatred of people | 09:46 |
| chris_99 | heh | 09:47 |
| Regex__ | The cycle of spiiiiiite | 09:50 |
| Urchin[emacs] | lol | 09:51 |
| Urchin[emacs] | well, that's good motivation... | 09:51 |
| delinquentme | kanz | 09:56 |
| delinquentme | du think its because we're social creatures? | 09:56 |
| delinquentme | and that stuff does stuff in brain when we socialize and thus we're more closer to natural behavioral state | 09:56 |
| delinquentme | and stuf works | 09:56 |
| delinquentme | ^ my hippocampus | 09:56 |
| delinquentme | gel electrophoresis and anions / cations | 09:58 |
| delinquentme | why do we not see bi-directional migration in gel electrophoresis ? | 09:58 |
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| fenn | yes molecular ticker tape for neural recording is limited by protein engineering skillz | 10:00 |
| fenn | also gene therapy is still kinda wonky | 10:00 |
| fenn | also you need some way of getting the ticker tape out of the body without making a mess | 10:01 |
| fenn | autoimmune reactions to the brain would be bad | 10:01 |
| kanzure | oh you wanted to preserve the brain when removing ticker tape? pfffft | 10:25 |
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| mokstar | so, I got drunk and let Amal put a chip in my hand | 11:00 |
| mokstar | and now I can't find any non-root-required app that will let me unlock my phone with it | 11:01 |
| kanzure | are you here to get help to remove it? | 11:01 |
| mokstar | #earlyadopterproblems | 11:01 |
| xentrac | maybe you should root your phone | 11:01 |
| mokstar | naa, I'm here to idle and watch people talk about stuff | 11:02 |
| mokstar | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=4143 | 11:03 |
| kanzure | "a phenomenon called "solvent cavitation under solvo-phobic confinement," which involves liquid spontaneously evaporating after being confined within tiny, water-fearing spaces" | 11:03 |
| kanzure | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpVhwoUNpgA | 11:04 |
| kanzure | "Anomalous water expulsion from carbon-based rods at high humidity" http://www.nature.com/nnano/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nnano.2016.91.html | 11:04 |
| kanzure | "we show that carbon-based rods can adsorb water at low humidity and spontaneously expel about half of the adsorbed water when the relative humidity exceeds a 50–80% threshold. The water expulsion is reversible, and is attributed to the interfacial forces between the confined rod surfaces. At wide rod spacings, a monolayer of water can form on the surface of the carbon-based rods, which subsequently leads to condensation in the ... | 11:05 |
| kanzure | ... confined space between adjacent rods. As the relative humidity increases, adjacent rods (confining surfaces) in the bundles are drawn closer together via capillary forces. At high relative humidity, and once the size of the confining surfaces has decreased to a critical length, a surface-induced evaporation phenomenon known as solvent cavitation occurs and water that had condensed inside the confined area is released as a vapour." | 11:05 |
| delinquentme | kanzure: so you're bundling this up, deploying on baloons | 11:09 |
| delinquentme | and making it, actually, rain ? | 11:09 |
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| kanzure | dunno, i haven't read enough about the interaction of water vapor and confined spaces to say whether that's feasible or more interesting than forced climate engineering things | 11:13 |
| mokstar | I wonder if it works on seawater | 11:14 |
| kanzure | delinquentme: what is the status of your AFM and nanotube things | 11:19 |
| delinquentme | nanotube joining proposal was denied from the molecular foundry | 11:20 |
| delinquentme | because they though i overlooked the complexity of CNT manipulation | 11:21 |
| delinquentme | which is thing is bullshit | 11:21 |
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| delinquentme | because im PRETTY fucking sure w the right instrument its straightforward. | 11:21 |
| delinquentme | AFM works and is chilling 4 feet from me | 11:21 |
| kanzure | have you moved anything with the AFM | 11:22 |
| kanzure | are you doing any STM things? i forget. | 11:22 |
| kanzure | you should spam us with images taken by AFM | 11:24 |
| xentrac | delinquentme: you built a working AFM? congratulations! | 11:28 |
| delinquentme | ja | 11:29 |
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| xentrac | that's awesome! are you getting imagery from it? | 11:31 |
| delinquentme | http://imgur.com/a/8a9WX | 11:39 |
| delinquentme | kanzure: xentrac ^^ | 11:39 |
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| delinquentme | everything is Gold plating on nickel except for the last 3 which are HOPG | 11:39 |
| chris_99 | are all those pics STM? | 11:40 |
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| delinquentme | da | 11:40 |
| delinquentme | the first one too | 11:40 |
| delinquentme | super high resolution + false coloring | 11:41 |
| chris_99 | what design are you use for the AFM stuff? | 11:41 |
| delinquentme | https://dberard.com/home-built-stm/ | 11:41 |
| delinquentme | its nearly the same as that guys | 11:41 |
| delinquentme | we've got a bit of a different piezo mount though | 11:42 |
| delinquentme | electrical contacts to the piezo are a fucking pain to hand mount | 11:42 |
| chris_99 | ah cool, so both are ones , are where the sample sits on a quadrant piezo thing? | 11:43 |
| delinquentme | samples are conductively glued to a metal puck ( punch out from a galvanized conduit box ) then are run to the control circuits | 11:45 |
| delinquentme | piezo sits above with the pokey stroker combing downward against the sample | 11:45 |
| chris_99 | sorry i'm confused, so you're saying the piezo isn't below the sample, to move it? | 11:46 |
| chris_99 | oh i see what you mean | 11:48 |
| chris_99 | looking at the photo | 11:48 |
| chris_99 | in the STM link | 11:49 |
| chris_99 | are you saying the AFM setup uses that same principle then, of moving the head? | 11:51 |
| delinquentme | thats a complex question to answer | 11:52 |
| delinquentme | afm works on vanderwaals where as this works on tunneling | 11:52 |
| delinquentme | while both use piezos ( most likley ) for rasterizing surfaces | 11:52 |
| chris_99 | sorry, i just mean are you moving the sample with AFM, or the probe | 11:53 |
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| nmz787_i | https://twitter.com/sonic_bruce | 11:55 |
| nmz787_i | .title | 11:55 |
| yoleaux | Bruce Drinkwater (@sonic_bruce) | Twitter | 11:55 |
| chris_99 | nmz787_i, did you see his graph for the ultrasonic power | 11:56 |
| chris_99 | to lift humans | 11:56 |
| nmz787_i | hmm, I think it was enormous | 11:58 |
| nmz787_i | if i saw it | 11:58 |
| delinquentme | the thing i built is an STM. and the sample is stationary while the probe is mobile | 11:58 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: yes we see bidirectional migration... depends on the ion bra | 11:58 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: bra as in brother ;) | 11:59 |
| delinquentme | nmz787_i: so if you setup a gel box with positive and negatively charged proteins, and set the well in the center of the gel | 11:59 |
| delinquentme | you'd see migration in both directions ? | 11:59 |
| nmz787_i | yeah | 11:59 |
| nmz787_i | they tweak buffers that way too, to have cross-currents | 12:00 |
| delinquentme | seems like a way to get better resolution at faster speeds no ? | 12:00 |
| delinquentme | i mean IF you have both negative / positive | 12:00 |
| nmz787_i | I'd say it depends | 12:00 |
| nmz787_i | haha | 12:01 |
| delinquentme | since they're traveling in different directions ... one could argue that the inter band resolution would be more distinct ? | 12:01 |
| nmz787_i | blanket statement to get me out | 12:01 |
| nmz787_i | interband of a group with the same-charge? | 12:01 |
| nmz787_i | just look up 2d gel electrophoresis I guess | 12:01 |
| delinquentme | no i just mean because they're traveling in different directions you'd get faster separation | 12:02 |
| delinquentme | agarose is fucking amazing hahaha | 12:02 |
| nmz787_i | likely most experiments are looking for a certain type of protein where they know the charge, so the other stuff is crap that doesn't matter | 12:02 |
| xentrac | delinquentme: so you're able to position the head with roughly nanometer precision? that's an STM, not the AFM? | 12:03 |
| delinquentme | nmz787_i: quick: whats the most complex subsystem of a HPLC? | 12:03 |
| xentrac | how cold did you have to get it? | 12:03 |
| delinquentme | xentrac: room temp , standard 1 atmosphere | 12:04 |
| delinquentme | sexy huh. | 12:04 |
| xentrac | unbelievably sexy | 12:04 |
| delinquentme | and its a scanning tunneling microscope | 12:04 |
| delinquentme | its fucking TINY too dude. | 12:04 |
| delinquentme | like the head that does the business fits in a 3in cube | 12:04 |
| xentrac | using piezo actuators from speakers, or what? | 12:04 |
| delinquentme | yap ! | 12:04 |
| delinquentme | piezo buzzer cut into 4ths | 12:04 |
| xentrac | and a fractured tungsten wire probe, or what? | 12:05 |
| xentrac | how fast are you scanning? | 12:05 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: well the pump is high-pressure, the capillary/tubing/column is small and materials-scienced-up... then there's some sort of detector of your choice (electronic or photonic) and then a spigot basically for taking fractions off. | 12:07 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: most complex other than all that is DSP/processing/pattern-recognition-shit | 12:08 |
| delinquentme | materials-scienced-up ?? | 12:08 |
| nmz787_i | yeah dude | 12:08 |
| nmz787_i | you don't know about matSci? | 12:08 |
| nmz787_i | :P | 12:08 |
| nmz787_i | they're coated with various hsit | 12:08 |
| nmz787_i | surface-chemistry | 12:08 |
| delinquentme | Ohhh sure sure | 12:09 |
| delinquentme | or supre complex rexins w silly high surface areas | 12:09 |
| delinquentme | pump id buy OEM | 12:09 |
| delinquentme | i thought the valves would be the worst part | 12:09 |
| delinquentme | also were looking specifically @ Ion Chromatography ... so the resins are like supz simple | 12:10 |
| delinquentme | UGHHHHHHHHHH | 12:10 |
| delinquentme | my water bottle isnt at my desk | 12:10 |
| delinquentme | fuck | 12:10 |
| delinquentme | i need to stand up | 12:10 |
| xentrac | that's terrible | 12:10 |
| xentrac | I feel for you | 12:10 |
| nmz787_i | i'd just buy something cheap from ebay to start, and probably wouldn't make my own column | 12:10 |
| xentrac | (I'm going to feel really bad now if it turns out you have cerebral palsy or something so that standing up is actually a major effort) | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | LOL | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | <3 | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | i do | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | i understand tho | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | ask my friends | 12:11 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: if you have a peltier nearby, just condense some moisture into your mouth | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | they know *something* is wrong here | 12:11 |
| delinquentme | TRUE | 12:12 |
| delinquentme | except not within reach distance | 12:12 |
| nmz787_i | damn | 12:12 |
| delinquentme | i have tubes and a 2liter of mountain dew that I can see | 12:12 |
| delinquentme | but | 12:12 |
| nmz787_i | compressed air can? | 12:12 |
| nmz787_i | you can get some ice build up | 12:12 |
| delinquentme | nope | 12:12 |
| delinquentme | actually nix that | 12:12 |
| delinquentme | i've started just licking myself | 12:12 |
| nmz787_i | that will just cause evaporation | 12:12 |
| nmz787_i | you're dying now | 12:13 |
| nmz787_i | .wik Strained silicon | 12:14 |
| yoleaux | "Strained silicon is a layer of silicon in which the silicon atoms are stretched beyond their normal interatomic distance. This can be accomplished by putting the layer of silicon over a substrate of silicon germanium (SiGe)." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strained_silicon | 12:14 |
| nmz787_i | the greek-yogurt of the semiconductor world | 12:14 |
| nmz787_i | lol | 12:14 |
| delinquentme | i dont understand | 12:15 |
| nmz787_i | dehydration? | 12:15 |
| nmz787_i | oh | 12:15 |
| nmz787_i | isn't greek yogurt strained? | 12:16 |
| nmz787_i | :) | 12:16 |
| delinquentme | oh | 12:16 |
| delinquentme | lol. | 12:16 |
| delinquentme | isnt all yogurt ? | 12:16 |
| nmz787_i | nah | 12:16 |
| delinquentme | *insert some lewd ref about hunching over and making animal noises * | 12:16 |
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| xentrac | delinquentme: sorry :( | 12:23 |
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| delinquentme | xentrac: call it even if you come clean out my tracheotomy spit catcher | 12:31 |
| xentrac | that sounds like a great deal if I get to learn more about your STM | 12:33 |
| xentrac | where are you? | 12:33 |
| delinquentme | hahahahah | 12:33 |
| delinquentme | San Fran | 12:33 |
| delinquentme | specifically oakland | 12:33 |
| delinquentme | but SF is where the partyz at | 12:33 |
| xentrac | can't make it there this month, maybe soon | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | thats gonna be a lot of drool to clean | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | a month? | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | thats like | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | gallons. | 12:34 |
| delinquentme | not to even consider that its gon be festering @ body temp in moist dark places | 12:34 |
| xentrac | you'll have to find something else to do with it in the meantime | 12:37 |
| nmz787_i | cryo-statis should do the triclk | 13:00 |
| nmz787_i | met this guy last week, he gave a talk on resurrecting his SEM: http://hackerfriendly.com/tag/sem/ | 13:03 |
| nmz787_i | http://hackerfriendly.com/about/ | 13:04 |
| chris_99 | cool! | 13:04 |
| mokstar | were you at toorcamp? | 13:05 |
| nmz787_i | ya | 13:05 |
| nmz787_i | mokstar: you? | 13:05 |
| mokstar | neat, me too, in the milliways camp | 13:05 |
| nmz787_i | ah, cool | 13:05 |
| nmz787_i | i was over in dorkbot | 13:06 |
| mokstar | nice, I need to look up how to make those buckets :D | 13:06 |
| * mokstar wants one for no good reason. | 13:06 | |
| nmz787_i | i didn't know MLP got married there until after I saw pics on facebook | 13:06 |
| mokstar | I don't know'm, I'm new | 13:06 |
| nmz787_i | yeah they were pretty cool, esp8266 with some neopixel strips vertically inside on a PVC pipe | 13:06 |
| nmz787_i | I think she was in milliways | 13:07 |
| Aurelius_Work2 | nmz787_i : yeah, though I think an island was also involved somehow? | 13:07 |
| nmz787_i | she is tall and had pink hair | 13:07 |
| Aurelius_Work2 | (I was not at camp, but I am friends with mlp) | 13:07 |
| mokstar | she didn't hang out in the dome much | 13:07 |
| mokstar | probably busy :p | 13:07 |
| nmz787_i | Aurelius_Work2: yea it was on an island | 13:07 |
| nmz787_i | Aurelius_Work2: she got married in the lecture dome | 13:07 |
| Aurelius_Work2 | ah cool | 13:07 |
| mokstar | I think I was busy saturating my brain with cannabinoids | 13:08 |
| nmz787_i | by the facedancer guy (minister i guess) | 13:08 |
| nmz787_i | haha | 13:08 |
| nmz787_i | mokstar: where are you normally based out of? | 13:08 |
| mokstar | Seattle | 13:08 |
| nmz787_i | ah nice | 13:08 |
| mokstar | you're a stumptowner, I'm assuming | 13:08 |
| nmz787_i | not too far then from me in Portland | 13:08 |
| nmz787_i | ya | 13:08 |
| mokstar | I lived there for ~10yrs, then took a job with the local internet retailer last year | 13:09 |
| nmz787_i | cool | 13:09 |
| Aurelius_Work2 | mokstar : what part of Seattle? I'm in the process of trying to move to Bellevue (or one of the other burbs) | 13:09 |
| mokstar | Cap Hill | 13:09 |
| nmz787_i | some guys were talking about a company up there called 'wave' I think | 13:09 |
| nmz787_i | all wireless for tall buildings | 13:09 |
| mokstar | https://gowaveg.com/ | 13:10 |
| Aurelius_Work2 | mokstar : ah, k. I'm talking to Apptio in the next few days | 13:10 |
| mokstar | I try not to drive, so I've learned absolutely nothing about the nearby stuf | 13:11 |
| Aurelius_Work2 | ah, yeah | 13:11 |
| Aurelius_Work2 | I don't like living in cities | 13:11 |
| mokstar | I love being able to just walk anywhere I want | 13:11 |
| mokstar | though, there's a few more hills in Seattle than in Portland... | 13:11 |
| nmz787_i | yeah I live in the burbs myself | 13:11 |
| nmz787_i | i technically live in a city, but the neighborhood is a nice pocket of 100+ ft tall trees | 13:12 |
| nmz787_i | so it feels pretty rural until you drive to the end of my dead-end street and plop out onto main st 10 mins walk to downtown | 13:12 |
| nmz787_i | i would like to live actually-rural someday | 13:13 |
| delinquentme | horrifying | 13:13 |
| delinquentme | city city city | 13:13 |
| xentrac | mokstar: yeah, I think this last couple of weeks have been pretty busy for MLP | 13:13 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: you could drool freely out there | 13:13 |
| delinquentme | LOL | 13:13 |
| delinquentme | i do now | 13:13 |
| delinquentme | i jsut sit in a plastic kiddie pool | 13:14 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: glistening all over in mucosal goodness | 13:14 |
| nmz787_i | eww | 13:14 |
| delinquentme | todays fav word | 13:14 |
| delinquentme | mucosal | 13:14 |
| nmz787_i | I bet people throw money in the pool at you | 13:14 |
| delinquentme | impracticing for a triathlon | 13:14 |
| delinquentme | where i just pee | 13:14 |
| nmz787_i | 'that poor poor man-child-beast' | 13:14 |
| delinquentme | HAHAHAHAHA | 13:14 |
| nmz787_i | mokstar: so it sounds like it was your first toorcamp? it was my first, it was a great time... a lot better than Las Vegas as a venue IMO | 13:18 |
| nmz787_i | I was definitely out of my element as far as hacking electronics/computers... cold+rain == me scared of electronics damage | 13:19 |
| mokstar | Yep | 13:35 |
| mokstar | hehehe, yeah, the sleeping-on-hard-ground thing took a little getting used to | 13:35 |
| mokstar | which means I'll be shopping for a better camping mattress next year :p | 13:35 |
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| mokstar | haha, laaame | 14:43 |
| mokstar | my old cell phone doesn't support writing to my xNT tag :D | 14:43 |
| mokstar | it'll read it though | 14:43 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: andrew suggests the name "pulse" | 15:33 |
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| delinquentme | ok so whats intereting at the intersection of weed and hard tech | 16:31 |
| delinquentme | suggestions include: sorting out if theres some kinda hormone suppliment equivalent for the male plants to turn them into weed growing females | 16:32 |
| delinquentme | purification of CBD for medical use + selling to pharma ( thought this might already be supplied ) | 16:32 |
| delinquentme | mass spec on weed plants for desireable compounds | 16:34 |
| chris_99 | isn't there already a way | 16:35 |
| chris_99 | to get feminized seeds | 16:35 |
| chris_99 | oh interesting, it's done by spraying the plants before they flower with something like colloidal silver | 16:39 |
| chris_99 | *after they flower | 16:40 |
| nmz787_i | delinquentme: super/sub critical CO2 extractors are pretty useful for other things | 16:41 |
| nmz787_i | such as critical point drying for SEM.... making aerogels | 16:41 |
| nmz787_i | coffee decaffination | 16:42 |
| chris_99 | oh sorry, you mentioned turning existing plants into female ones | 16:42 |
| chris_99 | they use co2 extraction for hop extract too | 16:42 |
| chris_99 | Krasnow has a cool DIY versio | 16:43 |
| chris_99 | *version | 16:43 |
| nmz787_i | yeah | 16:43 |
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| nmz787_i | delinquentme: also there is GMO being done on it | 16:44 |
| delinquentme | nmz787_i: should i just hit up anything that mentions cannabis ? | 17:03 |
| delinquentme | also dude. the fucking videos on uTub ... of people doing extractions. AMAZING. Theres shitloads of people with like stainless steel and pyrex stuff laying around their house. | 17:04 |
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| delinquentme | I think Breaking Bad + legal weed has turned it pop to becoming a chemist | 17:04 |
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| nmz787 | mokstar: you got the free injection? | 17:58 |
| mokstar | yep | 17:59 |
| mokstar | kept the needle to scare my friends | 17:59 |
| nmz787 | haha | 17:59 |
| nmz787 | mokstar: I just have a foam pad from walmart that costs like $5, put a wool blanket on top of that, sheet, then sleeping bag | 18:00 |
| mokstar | yeah, I tried layering blankets | 18:00 |
| mokstar | did not work | 18:00 |
| nmz787 | hehe, I guess I've been camping pretty regularly for 10 years or so... | 18:01 |
| nmz787 | maybe 12 | 18:02 |
| mokstar | I haven't, still a camping newbie | 18:05 |
| mokstar | gonna go more often though, now that I've got some gear and it's summer | 18:05 |
| nmz787 | yeah I haven't been going as much the last few years... strangely since I moved out here where it is so abundantly available | 18:07 |
| mokstar | I took the kids to a camping spot nearby, it was awful | 18:09 |
| mokstar | trains going by all night | 18:09 |
| mokstar | that was near Portland though, looking forward to seeing what I can find up this way | 18:09 |
| mokstar | they were like, "We want to go real camping, where there's not a water faucet and bathrooms and stuff." | 18:10 |
| nmz787 | mmm, yeah | 18:11 |
| mokstar | all they really want to do is play with the camp fire and harass slugs | 18:12 |
| mokstar | which is fine :) | 18:12 |
| nmz787 | I did an overnight above the columbia river gorge in march after hiking about 9 miles up the side of the gorge, and I still heard a train at night... | 18:12 |
| mokstar | yep, the I-84 corridor | 18:13 |
| nmz787 | yeah | 18:13 |
| * mokstar will plan his next trip far away from any tracks. | 18:13 | |
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