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| nmz787 | .tell chris_99 just because it is plastic, I mean, I guess it wouldn't flex MUCH, but maybe noticable for some kind of long-term interferometry or something? where you couldn't recalibrate pretty often | 01:06 |
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| yoleaux | nmz787: I'll pass your message to chris_99. | 01:06 |
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| abetusk | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDuUhBvmfzw | 04:39 |
| yoleaux | How to - Hydrophobic Coating for the OpenDrop - Part 1 - YouTube | 04:39 |
| abetusk | .title https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQGMmZuZwpI | 04:39 |
| yoleaux | How to - Hydrophobic Coating for the OpenDrop - Part 2 - YouTube | 04:39 |
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| chris_99 | wow that opendrop board looks really neat | 06:02 |
| yoleaux | 08:06Z <nmz787> chris_99: just because it is plastic, I mean, I guess it wouldn't flex MUCH, but maybe noticable for some kind of long-term interferometry or something? where you couldn't recalibrate pretty often | 06:02 |
| chris_99 | ah gotcha, cheers nmz787 | 06:02 |
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| xentrac | yeah, the normal kind of optics workbench is a granite slab with a grid of holes drilled (and I suppose reamed) in it | 06:25 |
| chris_99 | granite?! aren't they just metal | 06:26 |
| xentrac | granite's thermal coefficient of expansion is about two orders of magnitude smaller than that of a plastic and one order of magnitude smaller than a normal metal (excepting special alloys like invar) | 06:27 |
| xentrac | the ones I've seen are granite | 06:27 |
| xentrac | granite also has the merit that you can quite reasonably make it 100mm or 200mm thick, while that leads to difficulties with metals | 06:27 |
| chris_99 | hmm https://www.thorlabs.de/navigation.cfm?guide_id=41 those are all steel | 06:27 |
| xentrac | maybe the ones I've seen aren't typical | 06:27 |
| xentrac | steels and granite also have the advantage of having a Young's modulus an order of magnitude or so higher than common plastics | 06:28 |
| chris_99 | ah | 06:28 |
| chris_99 | i guess i can always upgrade if i start with a £3 peg board ;) | 06:29 |
| xentrac | to add to deformations from temperature, temperature gradients, and mechanical stress, many plastics are hygroscopic, and those that aren't can usually absorb other solvents and swell | 06:29 |
| xentrac | typical pegboard is mostly made of cellulose, which is very hygroscopic | 06:29 |
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| xentrac | .to chris_99 I think cellulose swells by about 100 με per percent relative humidity, so if you have a meter-wide mostly-cellulose pegboard that's adjusting to a 5% change in RH over an hour, it could increase or decrease in size by 500μm, or about 140 nm/s — about a quarter wavelength | 06:41 |
| yoleaux | xentrac: I'll pass your message to chris_99. | 06:41 |
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| chris_99 | cheers, sorry my wifi is very dodgy | 06:47 |
| yoleaux | 13:41Z <xentrac> chris_99: I think cellulose swells by about 100 με per percent relative humidity, so if you have a meter-wide mostly-cellulose pegboard that's adjusting to a 5% change in RH over an hour, it could increase or decrease in size by 500μm, or about 140 nm/s — about a quarter wavelength | 06:47 |
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| kanzure | pherecydes pharma / phagoburn (bacteriophage stuff) | 10:21 |
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| kanzure | "vibrio natriegens" | 10:50 |
| kanzure | .wik vibrio natriegens | 10:50 |
| yoleaux | "Vibrio natriegens is a Gram-negative marine bacterium. It was first isolated from salt marsh mud. It is a salt-loving organism (halophile) requiring about 2% NaCl for growth." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vibrio_natriegens | 10:50 |
| kanzure | 10 minute doubling time | 10:50 |
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| fenn | kanzure see you in an hour? | 12:50 |
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| ebowden | +seen Douhet | 19:48 |
| ebowden | Oh, derp, wrong channel for that. | 19:48 |
| Douhet | >_> | 19:49 |
| Douhet | ebowden, what channel did you want to use for that? | 19:49 |
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| ebowden | One that has no relation whatever for this one, it's not even on freenode. | 19:50 |
| ebowden | http://repository.upenn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1046&context=cbe_sdr | 19:55 |
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| nmz787_i | 2450 0 | 20:06 |
| nmz787_i | .title http://hackaday.com/2016/07/07/tissue-engineered-soft-robot-swims-like-a-stingray/ | 20:06 |
| yoleaux | Tissue-Engineered Soft Robot Swims Like a Stingray | Hackaday | 20:06 |
| nmz787_i | optogenetically engineered rat heart cells, laminated to gold sheet (acts as spring), coated with silicone... pulse with light=>swimming | 20:07 |
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| kanzure | .wik dip pen lithography | 20:54 |
| yoleaux | kanzure: Sorry, that command (.wik) crashed. | 20:54 |
| kanzure | .wik dip pen lithography | 20:54 |
| yoleaux | kanzure: Sorry, that command (.wik) crashed. | 20:54 |
| kanzure | http://bitcoinfibre.org/ | 20:57 |
| kanzure | http://bluematt.bitcoin.ninja/2016/07/07/relay-networks/ | 20:57 |
| kanzure | http://pencerw.com/feed/2015/3/15/3d-printing-titanium-and-the-bin-of-broken-dreams | 21:04 |
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| nmz787 | "It is also important to consider one of the unique characteristics of DPN, namely its force independence. With virtually all ink/substrate combinations, the same feature size will be patterned no matter how hard the tip is pressing down against the surface.[23] As long as robust SiN tips are used, there is no need for complicated feedback electronics, no need for lasers, no need for quad photo-diodes, and no need for an AFM." | 21:07 |
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| kanzure | seanph: hi | 21:21 |
| seanph | @kanzure hey | 21:21 |
| kanzure | sup | 21:21 |
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| kanzure | http://nostalgebraist.tumblr.com/post/144815618009/imo-an-idea-that-should-be-more-widely-spread | 21:54 |
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