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| nmz787 | .wik Satisfiability modulo theories | 00:01 |
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| yoleaux | "In computer science and mathematical logic, the satisfiability modulo theories (SMT) problem is a decision problem for logical formulas with respect to combinations of background theories expressed in classical first-order logic with equality." — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satisfiability_modulo_theories | 00:01 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: sci-hub statistics could be interesting, as in, it could indicate interesting developments because interesting people are using the site? | 01:18 |
| ebowden | Interesting in what way? | 01:26 |
| nmz787 | I guess requesting an article doesn't mean it is a good article, but it could be an interesting topic in general due to people who want articles bad enough that they deal with trying 5 different URLs before finding a site that works, etc (posting to PDF request groups) | 01:33 |
| ebowden | In what way are those people interesting? | 01:35 |
| ebowden | Even I use sci-hub. | 01:35 |
| nmz787 | yes, and you use IRC | 01:37 |
| ebowden | That makes me interesting? | 01:38 |
| ebowden | The word you're looking for is "autistic". | 01:38 |
| ebowden | Despite wearing a big coat and talking about the explosives detectors don't pick up well, I get through airport security easy because people think I'm retarded. | 01:42 |
| ebowden | *easily | 01:43 |
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| nmz787 | .tell ebowden the only other autistic (or nearly so) person I can think of doesn't use scihub or IRC or do anything I'd really consider interesting | 03:14 |
| yoleaux | nmz787: I'll pass your message to ebowden. | 03:14 |
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| thesnark | hey everyone | 05:23 |
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| streety | hi thesnark | 06:21 |
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| kanzure | nmz787: there was a paper about scihub statistics actually | 06:30 |
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| fenn | http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/04/whos-downloading-pirated-papers-everyone http://datadryad.org/resource/doi:10.5061/dryad.q447c just geographical information, not about which papers were being downloaded | 07:32 |
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| kanzure | hmph | 08:39 |
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| kanzure | yashgaroth: sup | 10:16 |
| yashgaroth | yo | 10:16 |
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| kanzure | "KIC 8462852 faded throughout the Kepler mission" https://arxiv.org/pdf/1608.01316v1.pdf | 10:48 |
| thesnark | kanzure I made an arxiv paper scraper bot | 10:51 |
| thesnark | really it's for monitoring new papers about topics and mass downloads | 10:51 |
| kanzure | i only recently found out how to get arxiv to show indexes of older publications | 10:57 |
| thesnark | :D | 11:02 |
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| thesnark | https://gist.github.com/mgrube/cd01c37646321c1c52bb1531d026a040 | 11:10 |
| thesnark | not too complicated | 11:10 |
| thesnark | also ol | 11:10 |
| thesnark | dd | 11:10 |
| thesnark | combine that with some python pdf libraries and you can extract topics | 11:10 |
| thesnark | http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/python/pdfminer/index.html | 11:11 |
| thesnark | works well enough to pull abstracts reliably | 11:11 |
| thesnark | can't say much about bodies... | 11:11 |
| kanzure | use python-requests instead of httpib2 | 11:16 |
| kanzure | .. httplib2 | 11:16 |
| kanzure | and instead of urllib | 11:16 |
| kanzure | re: abstracts and such, i recommend using zotero-translators.git which has hundreds of well-maintained javascript-based parsers for most academic publisher sites | 11:17 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/kanzure/paperbot is where i was last using zotero-translators | 11:17 |
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| thesnark | kanzure, that is incredibly sexy | 11:19 |
| thesnark | zotero-translators | 11:19 |
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| kanzure | i like it because i don't have to maintain it | 11:20 |
| thesnark | :p | 11:20 |
| kanzure | why are all the machine learning python samples on github written so poorly? are these people programmers? | 11:21 |
| thesnark | kanzure, largely they are not | 11:21 |
| thesnark | well it depends on your definition of programmer | 11:21 |
| thesnark | If "I read a book about python" means programmer, then yes | 11:21 |
| thesnark | If "I have actual experience designing programs and solving problems" then no | 11:21 |
| thesnark | "Data scientists" ;p | 11:22 |
| kanzure | i see a lot of weirdly-hardcoded things and weirdo assumptions | 11:22 |
| streety | any examples? | 11:23 |
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| kanzure | https://github.com/pannous/tensorflow-speech-recognition/blob/master/speech_model.py | 11:24 |
| kanzure | https://github.com/srvk/srvk-eesen-offline-transcriber/blob/master/Makefile | 11:27 |
| kanzure | stuff like that. | 11:27 |
| thesnark | lol | 11:27 |
| thesnark | that second one.... | 11:27 |
| streety | the line character limit in the first link there is fantastic ... almost looks like justified alignment | 11:29 |
| streety | would the zotero translators be any use in extracting more than the abstract? They don't process the actual pdf do they? | 11:30 |
| kanzure | they can find the actual pdf but they do not parse pdf files | 11:31 |
| thesnark | streety, pdfminer will | 11:31 |
| streety | ok | 11:31 |
| streety | pdfminer works for you? I had a hell of a time getting it to work on journal articles. Is the arxiv pdf structure generally better do you know? | 11:31 |
| * thesnark shrugs | 11:32 | |
| thesnark | it's good enough for me | 11:32 |
| thesnark | You've had troubles with the abstracts? | 11:32 |
| thesnark | The bodies are a pain but the abstracts should be easy | 11:32 |
| streety | Yeah, I tried pdfminer then moved to pypdf2 which seemed better and actually gave me workable text, although identifying where different sections started and ended was still difficult. In the end I just looked for DOIs and then search crossref and pubmed to get the structured data for title, authors, abstract, keywords etc | 11:34 |
| streety | It was good enough for what I wanted to do at the time | 11:34 |
| thesnark | nice, whatever works. | 11:35 |
| kanzure | you shoud use image segmentation to figure out paragraph start-end ones | 11:47 |
| kanzure | zones. | 11:47 |
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| kanzure | oh this looks better https://github.com/kaldi-asr/kaldi/tree/master/src | 11:49 |
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| nmz787 | kanzure: the only think I see 'weird' skimming through https://github.com/pannous/tensorflow-speech-recognition/blob/master/speech_model.py is that while they follow PEP8 naming conventions and have docstrings and also have nice character-length formatting... they import from __future__ but then use xrange, which isn't py3k compatible | 13:16 |
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| chris_99 | hey nmz787, got the FX3 dev board now :) and some shorter dupont wires, just need to sort out the ADC now | 13:25 |
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| kanzure | hrmph | 14:34 |
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| kanzure | ProfSechs: greetings | 17:48 |
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| nmz787 | .tell chris_99 Cool! Let me know how it goes! Over-sampling a CCD is something that is supposed to help increase ENOB (effective number of bits) | 18:23 |
| yoleaux | nmz787: I'll pass your message to chris_99. | 18:23 |
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| kanzure | http://karpathy.github.io/2015/05/21/rnn-effectiveness/ | 20:36 |
| kanzure | http://karpathy.github.io/2016/05/31/rl/ | 20:36 |
| kanzure | "hacker's guide to neural networks" http://karpathy.github.io/neuralnets/ | 20:36 |
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